The average consumer will no doubt mess up a speedtest. However, every consumer 
will not mess it up in exactly the same way.

With the number of reports available, I believe we have a statistically valid 
lower bound on latency over Starlink.
 
The reports also have in common that the variability is high, far higher than 
one could attribure to worst case wifi latency.

Adding to this are screenshots from the Starlink app which measures latency 
from the terminal and reports available bandwidth on the RF space segment. This 
app also shows very high variability in latency, with highs over 100 ms.


Jared
 


From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

Never underestimate how bad an average consumer can mess up speedtest results.
 
The ONLY valid way is to hardwire directly to the modem or router and make sure 
there are no other devices connected, and no background traffic. Then make sure 
you use the Speedtest.net app on a PC or Mac instead of the web browser.
 
Many of the tests we're seeing done are on WiFi which adds 1-10ms latency to 
the speedtest result depending on their distance to the router and 
interference. 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 10:33 AM <fiber...@mail.com[mailto:fiber...@mail.com]> 
wrote:Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now?


Jared


> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com[mailto:part15...@gmail.com]>
> To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
> blowing smoke.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/3/2020 7:57 AM, fiber...@mail.com[mailto:fiber...@mail.com] wrote:
> > From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com[mailto:part15...@gmail.com]>
> > To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> >> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end
> >> point. I think it will make a massive difference.
> >    You can call BS all day long til you are blue in the face, it won't 
> >change facts.
> >
> >    The minimum end user latency is dominated by the RF space segment which 
> >is currently averaging 40 ms. There are promises about lowering this, but 
> >nobody has ever claimed any numbers lower than 20 ms.
> >
> >    It means jack all to the end user if Starlink uses a space laser to do 
> >one or two hops when they have to pay a 20-40 ms penalty to go up and down.
> >
> >
> > Jared
> >
>
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