Re: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 'current health situation' | Fox News

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Simon,

I live in one of the worst affected departments in France and the hospital 
where I was recently treated for cancer is where the first local case was 
diagnosed. My husband is an independent English teacher and already some of his 
classes have been cancelled. It’s a very weird situation to be living through.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 14 Mar 2020, at 10:52, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi Barry,
>  
> Yeah this virus is going to cause some slow downs globlely for a while,
>  
> So anything anyone was expecting to purchase this year, chances are you’ll 
> need to wait a couple of extra months.
>  
> New Zealand will be some what restricting international travel in to the 
> country as of Sunday night  and anyone coming in will go in to a somewhat 
> forced 14 quaruntine / isolation
>  
>  
> And I know we’re not the first to do this but it will get worse before it 
> gets better.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
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> Subject: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 
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Re: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 'current health situation' | Fox News

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Simon,

Well, things are much worse here now. All restaurants, bars, cafés, cinemas and 
theatres are closed as of midnight last night. Only essential travel is 
permitted. However the local elections are going ahead. We are certainly living 
in interesting times.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 15 Mar 2020, at 03:24, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
>  
> It is that,
>  
> I’m currently living in a city where a shooting of 51 people happened a year 
> ago.
>  
> That’s also a pretty weird situation to be remembering
> Especially when people are continually looking over their shoulders for 
> something to happen again.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2020 3:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 
> 'current health situation' | Fox News
>  
> Hello Simon,
>  
> I live in one of the worst affected departments in France and the hospital 
> where I was recently treated for cancer is where the first local case was 
> diagnosed. My husband is an independent English teacher and already some of 
> his classes have been cancelled. It’s a very weird situation to be living 
> through.
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 14 Mar 2020, at 10:52, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
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> Hi Barry,
>  
> Yeah this virus is going to cause some slow downs globlely for a while,
>  
> So anything anyone was expecting to purchase this year, chances are you’ll 
> need to wait a couple of extra months.
>  
> New Zealand will be some what restricting international travel in to the 
> country as of Sunday night  and anyone coming in will go in to a somewhat 
> forced 14 quaruntine / isolation
>  
>  
> And I know we’re not the first to do this but it will get worse before it 
> gets better.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
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> 'current health situation' | Fox News
>  
>  
> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-impact-apple-moves-wwdc-to-online-format-citing-current-health-situation
>  
> <https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-impact-apple-moves-wwdc-to-online-format-citing-current-health-situation>
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Re: Bug in new version of Numbers on OS X

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Phil,

I haven’t much in the way of spreadsheets on my computer so I asked my husband 
to test the latest Numbers on his, which is a recent MacBook Pro running 
Catalina. For him, VoiceOver will read column headers for the first 22 columns, 
and row headers for the first 44 rows. This is true both for navigating using 
the VO keys, and VO-Shift-t.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 11 Apr 2020, at 19:09, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Has anyone else using numbers noticed a terrible bug in tables row and Collin 
> had a reading? In the new version 10 column labels are only read for about 
> the first seven or eight columns and after that numbers does not see the 
> column labels anymore. Similarly with row header labels the first Tanner so 
> Rose the labels are red, but after that numbers does not see the row headers. 
> I have use the various voiceover commands to read column headers and row 
> headers and it simply does not see anything there
> This is happening in all of the tables in my spreadsheet application, 
> approximately four tables like this are affected. I don’t think it’s my 
> installation, that is, a problem in the spreadsheet. I think that it is a 
> problem with the new release of version 10 for numbers. Can anybody else 
> verify a problem with table row and header label reading after the first 
> seven or eight columns in the first dozen or so rose? 
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Re: commands for navigating the web

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Hello Shirley,
You open the web rotor by pressing VO-u. The rotor is like a series of 
drop-down menus, each listing all the items of a particular type such as links, 
headings, form controls etc.
To find commands, press VO-h-h and you’ll have the full list of VoiceOver 
commands. If you want to find commands relating to links, just type the word 
link and the list will shrink to show only commands with the word link in them.
Some commands have no shortcut assigned to them, but you can always add one 
using one of the commanders.
You should explore the VoiceOver Utility as it has lots of settings for you to 
customise your Mac.
Cheers,

Anne

 


> On 16 May 2020, at 10:44, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> how do I navigate the web ona mac? what are the most useful commands, for 
> reading the text of websites, going to a link, like moving to it, and is the 
> rotar better to use than just navigating the site without it? if so how do 
> you turn it on?
> shirley
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>  Virus-free. www.avg.com 
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Re: How do I check the time on the mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Shirley,

With the keyboard commander turned on, Option-t gives you the time. In 
VoiceOver Utility, in the Commanders category, you can choose whether to use 
the right or left Option key. However, on a laptop, the only sensible choice is 
the righthand Option key since there is no Control key on that side so the 
Option key can’t really be used for the VoiceOver keys.
VO-Shift-k toggles the keyboard commander on and off.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 22 May 2020, at 15:29, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> i am looking to know how i check what time it is on my mac? what is the 
> command to do this?
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Re: Pages and custom template

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Hello Leo,
In Pages Preferences, I think you have to click on Change template and reselect 
your preferred one then press Choose. Close Preferences and your chosen 
template should be shown. Close the window and quit Pages, then reopen Pages 
and all should be well.
This works for me under Mojave, and for my husband under Catalina.
Cheers,

Anne




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> Hi everyone,
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> For some time I haven’t used pages, but I noticed it got updated several 
> weeks ago. During these days I opened the app to jot down a few instructions, 
> and I came across with a pesky issue. Pages doesn’t open the custom template 
> that I’ve been using for long time as my default template, and instead of 
> that, it shows me the template chooser. I went to preferences to check if the 
> last update had messed with some of my customized settings, but everything 
> was as it’s supposed to be set. However, I repeated the steps to set again my 
> favorite template as my default template, but pages keeps ignoring this and 
> every time I launch the app and press command plus n, it shows me the 
> template chooser.
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> Is this a known issue on this last update? or Am I missing something here?
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Re: Pages and custom template

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Hello Leo,
When you open Pages, you shouldn’t have to press anything. The application 
should open with a blank template. Cmd-n is the command to show the Template 
Chooser.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 25 May 2020, at 03:09, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> Hello Anne,
> 
> it kind of worked, but not as I expected. Whenever I launch pages, I press 
> command plus n, but instead of opening my custom template, the template 
> chooser shows up, so I press escape and press command plus n again, and 
> finally pages opens my custom template. I don't know why...
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
>    Leo
> On 5/23/2020 12:50 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> Hello Leo,
>> In Pages Preferences, I think you have to click on Change template and 
>> reselect your preferred one then press Choose. Close Preferences and your 
>> chosen template should be shown. Close the window and quit Pages, then 
>> reopen Pages and all should be well.
>> This works for me under Mojave, and for my husband under Catalina.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 May 2020, at 12:54, Leo Bado >> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> For some time I haven’t used pages, but I noticed it got updated several 
>>> weeks ago. During these days I opened the app to jot down a few 
>>> instructions, and I came across with a pesky issue. Pages doesn’t open the 
>>> custom template that I’ve been using for long time as my default template, 
>>> and instead of that, it shows me the template chooser. I went to 
>>> preferences to check if the last update had messed with some of my 
>>> customized settings, but everything was as it’s supposed to be set. 
>>> However, I repeated the steps to set again my favorite template as my 
>>> default template, but pages keeps ignoring this and every time I launch the 
>>> app and press command plus n, it shows me the template chooser.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Is this a known issue on this last update? or Am I missing something here?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>>Leo
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Re: whitch Macbook pro

[Anne Robertson]

Andy, as far as I know, no Apple computers come with a built-in DVD drive 
anymore.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 27 Jun 2020, at 11:47, 'andrew' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Simon.
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> I like the idea of having a CD/DVD reader, though I hardly ever use that.

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Re: Safari sweet spot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ian,
After setting the shortcut, did you check that it showed up in the table? When 
setting a shortcut in the Keyboard Commander, you simply press the appropriate 
key without the Option key.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 15 Jul 2020, at 13:55, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I went into the keyboard commander tab and added a command. I tried command 
> right option w and command right option a, linking both to the menu command 
> to set sweet spot. When I tried to apply the command on the Amazon search box 
> I just get the error sound effect.
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Anne Robertson]

I grew up in England and between the ages of 7 and 17, attended schools for the 
blind where maths was taught, but the only science was biology, which didn’t 
interest me at the time. I would have preferred to learn physics.
I finished my secondary education in a mainstream school and specialised in 
languages. I studied French at university, but then I went into computer 
programming.
The tool that allowed me to work on an equal footing with my sighted colleagues 
was the optacon. I was able to read the terminal screen and printout. I 
programmed the Apple ii in hexadecimal and read all the manuals using the 
optacon.
I didn’t use speech on a computer until we got a Mac, a 2SI, during the 90s and 
I purchased OutSpoken.
It never occurred to me that I might not be able to get a job as a blind person 
once the optacon became available to me.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 12 Jul 2016, at 05:15, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post.  
> But ...
> 
> As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math 
> and the sciences weren't for me.  And this despite the fact that my dad was a 
> computer guy, who spent lots of time and energy conveying to me how important 
> tech would be for me..  Some of my earliest memories are of him bringing home 
> those old computer punch cards and magnetic tapes for my brother and me to 
> play with.  I remember going with him into the office on Saturdays and seeing 
> the computer, which was this great big behemoth that took up an entire room.  
> I remember him teaching me base 2 at the dinner table.  But once I got to 
> school, my math and science teachers had no idea what to do with me.  Classes 
> were taught almost exclusively on the blackboard, and I was bored out of my 
> mind.  I grew up thinking I sucked at math, and it wasn't until I was in my 
> thirties that I realized that I was actually pretty bloody good at it.  Back 
> in the 80s, I went out with this total computer geek.  I was fascinated by 
> all the stuff he was into, but neither he nor I knew how to make all that 
> accessible to me.  (And by that time, I actually owned a TSI Versabraille).  
> I think that had I been born within the last 25 years, I actually would have 
> chosen IT--or something related--as a career.  Clearly something was 
> different for you and John.  Maybe it was innate intelligence, maybe there 
> was a gender bias at play, maybe it was opportunity, I don't know.  I do know 
> from other posts I've seen from you that your parents seemed quite willing to 
> think out of the box.  I grew up in suburbia.  My mom was 20 when she had me, 
> my dad was 22.  Having a blind kid pretty much rocked their young, limited 
> world.  I don't think my experience is unique.  Whatever it was that jived 
> for you guys, didn't carry over to lots of blind folks.
> 
> So yes, it was a fluff piece.  And yes, I wish they'd just treat blind folks 
> like everyone else.  But I also hope that there's a little Donna out there 
> somewhere--or maybe little Donna's parents--who don't buy into those 
> preconceived notions about what someone who's blind can or cannot do, and 
> that someday 20 years from now, that little Donna finds herself at the heart 
> of technological developments.
> 
> Just an alternate perspective.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> So here’s my problem with the article.
>> 
>> I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support 
>> her efforts.  I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community 
>> for the design side.  I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s 
>> discussion of teaching children to code.
>> 
>> My problem is with the reporter.  These articles are so damn fluff happy.  
>> Look at Apple saving the day for blind people.  Like it’s something new.  
>> Never mind you John and I built parts of the networks this reporter 
>> publishes on.:)  The article leads the reader to believe that blind people 
>> could only code until recently.  This blind guy as a child started coding 
>> 33+ years ago learning things like 6502 assembler, Apple Soft, PASCAL, then 
>> C and so forth. We used apples or PCs or what ever to get it done and in 
>> some ways have been directly or indirectly involved with the development of 
>> computers since the very beginning.  Real trail blazers like your self or 
>> Ray Kurzweil building devices to help his child, certain musicians with very 
>> deep pockets who brought some of the funding to the table, any blind person 
>> at all who successfully landed a job and held it showing others in our own 
>> little way we’re just people doing the same things that everyone else does, 
>> try to help take care of your selves, families and participate in our 
>> communities.
>>  I guess part of me just wishes that instead of being singled out an

Re: Pages template question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

I assume you meant to write Turabian since you mentioned this format in an 
earlier message.
I haven’t been able to find any ready-made template for Pages in this style, 
but as I said earlier, you can make your own. It isn’t that difficult, it just 
takes time.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 21 Jul 2016, at 17:23, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> Does anyone know where I might could find a tertian template for pages for 
> writing research papers in the tertian writing style format?  Thanks for any 
> help.  I’ve been doing some searching online, but thought I would ask here to 
> see if anyone knew of anything.  Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: safari

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Walter,

When on the link, press VO-Shift-u and the link will be read. Press VO-Shift-c 
and it will be copied to the clipboard.

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> On 27 Jul 2016, at 13:06, Walter Harper  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> How would I Copy a link in safari on the mac?
> Walter 
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Re: MS Word jumps to the top

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Hello Larry,

I don’t use Word but this doesn’t happen to me in Pages. Is your mouse 
following your other cursors? If so, try changing it to Ignore the other 
cursors.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 28 Jul 2016, at 00:48, Larry Thacker Jr.  
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> When Working in MS Word, if I switch away from the document I’m working on 
> and come back.  The cursor jumps back to the top of the document.  I’m pretty 
> sure I saw this happen in Pages too, but I wouldn’t swear to it.  Is there 
> any way to stop this from happening?  It’s quite annoying as I am constantly 
> switching between applications as I research what I’m working on.
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Re: Is there a keyboard command to bring the mouse?

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Hello Donna,

I regularly have to bring the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor and haven’t 
encountered the problems Eric described. However, I am in the habit of hiding 
any other open applications using the command Cmd-Option-h. This keeps the 
screen clear for the current application.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 29 Jul 2016, at 22:06, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> Thanks so much for this!  I'm glad I hadn't imagined that such a keyboard 
> command existed. :)
> 
> Haven't been able to try it out yet, I'll let you know how it goes.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:34 AM, erik burggraaf > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I forgot to add, when pressing control option command f5, the 
>> feedback will be the contents of the voiceover cursor, indicating that the 
>> mouse has been routed to the voiceover cursor; However, clicking may yeald 
>> unexpected results because mac os lets you stack windows on top of 
>> eachother, but voiceover doesn't indicate that such a window is present.  
>> So, you may think you're clicking on some mouse only button on a webpage in 
>> a safari window when in fact you're clicking on a file icon in finder or 
>> notification text in a hidden dialog box.  Thus, routing the mouse and 
>> clicking is an inexact process.  It's also worth noting that some clickable 
>> options won't work with the trackpad as long as voiceover is turned on.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Freelance jack of many trades!  Visit my website:
>> http://www.theoutofworkbum.work 
>> Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for persons 
>> with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
>> http://www.inclusiveandroid.com 
>>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:28 AM, erik burggraaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Control option command f5 is what I use.
>>> 
>>> hth,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Freelance jack of many trades!  Visit my website:
>>> http://www.theoutofworkbum.work 
>>> Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for persons 
>>> with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
>>> http://www.inclusiveandroid.com 
 On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know that may be a dumb question, but I'm thinking there is one and I 
 can't remember what it is.  I'm trying to force the mouse to route to the 
 voiceover cursor, similar to the Route Jaws to PC in JAWS.
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Re: Copying a table from Safari?

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Hello Traci,

Just select the table, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a Numbers 
spreadsheet. It should work fine.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 3 Aug 2016, at 18:45, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it possible to copy a table from Safari and keep it’s structure?  I’m on a 
> vitamin website and I’d like to compare 2 Brands side by side.  Their 
> nutritional values are laid out in a table form.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Opelcheck in Pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Max,

Just press Escape to close the popover. This kind of thing is explained in my 
book on Pages.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 5 Aug 2016, at 00:11, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> when using spellcheck in Pages how can I decline a spelling suggestion. I 
> find Pages will change the spelling of a word that is spelt the way I want 
> it. Normally if there is more than one suggestion I arrow down the list and 
> enter on the one I want. How do I decline a suggestion?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kawal,

You could try reinitialising the PRAM. To do this, first shut down your 
computer. Then, hold down the following four keys: Command, Option, letter p 
and letter r. Press the Power key and let it go, but keep holding down the four 
keys until you’ve heard the startup chime at least three times. Then, let go of 
the keys and the computer will boot as normal.
However, it’s strange that you’re having the same problem on both your 
computers. I’ve never experienced this.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 7 Aug 2016, at 11:51, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Track commander is always on and by the way, I leave both computers on 24 7 
> unless there’s an update or for some reason something isn’t working on the 
> internet.  I just want to know how to fix please?
>> On 7 Aug 2016, at 10:43, Frank Ventura > > wrote:
>> 
>> I tried this on both my iMac and my Mac Book, both running the latest OS 
>> updates and I cannot duplicate this. Is the trackpad commander turned on and 
>> maybe you hit the trackpad?
>>  
>> Frank
>>   <>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>  ] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 1:21 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. 
>> Please confirm.
>>  
>> Quick Nav turned off.  I always make sure it’s off before doing something.  
>> In fact after this update, Voice Over was acting strangely at times and I 
>> had to turn Voice Over off on occasion.
>>  
>> So I tried creating another folder and I can tell you, when I create on and 
>> try and write the folder name, Voice Over is not even focusing on that 
>> folder i.e. no edit text and I have my voice Over cursor following the mouse 
>> pointer.  That’s the first thing I do when I set up my Mac from scratch.  I 
>> have checked everything in voice over utilities.  Anyone?
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>  
>>  
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 22:44, E.T. > > wrote:
>>  
>>   Ok. QN will do weird things like this.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2016 2:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
>> tomorrow.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>>  Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
>> Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
>> creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
>> not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
>> wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
>> Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
>> that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
>> Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
>> that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
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Re: renaming or relabeling apps on the home screen

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jenine,

Double-tap and hold with two fingers. You’ll hear a series of clangs, after 
which you can type in a new label. Click the Done button and VoiceOver will 
read the new name.
Interestingly, in the App Switcher, VO will read the new name, but when you 
close the app, it will be announced with its original name.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Aug 2016, at 17:47, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> I have 2 apps with the same name and want to be able to tell them apart if I 
> list them both on the Home screen. One is the stock Apple Mail app and the 
> other is the Voice Dream Mail app. 
> 
> I’m using iOS10 beta 3. Is there any way to change what VO reads as the app 
> name? Thanks. 
> Jenine Stanley
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Audible.com new library view

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Audible has changed its library view and it’s horrible! You have to hover the 
mouse over the book’s cover image and click to get the download options. 
Sometimes, the mouse simply will not come to the VoiceOver cursor and the whole 
thing is very hit and miss.
I’ve chatted with someone at Audible and he’s going to pass my comments on to 
the web designers.
We’ll just have to wait and see.

Cheers,

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Re: Audible.com new library view

[Anne Robertson]

Have you been there in the past few days? It really has changed completely, and 
that has nothing to do with the operating system used.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Aug 2016, at 12:35, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi Anne,
> 
> 
> It might just be the  Mac version on Windows no issues.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> 
> On 14/08/2016 8:24 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Audible has changed its library view and it’s horrible! You have to hover 
>> the mouse over the book’s cover image and click to get the download options. 
>> Sometimes, the mouse simply will not come to the VoiceOver cursor and the 
>> whole thing is very hit and miss.
>> I’ve chatted with someone at Audible and he’s going to pass my comments on 
>> to the web designers.
>> We’ll just have to wait and see.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
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Re: Audible.com new library view

[Anne Robertson]

It was the two for one sale that sent me to Audible today. I had no trouble 
purchasing my two books, but downloading them to my Mac gave me endless trouble.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Aug 2016, at 12:53, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> To add to this, on my iPhone  I tried to select 2 books for 1 sale titles but 
> now can't remove them, can't get to purchase them and can't even buy a book 
> normally. My daughter who is sighted can't even work it out. Oh audible! You 
> know better.  
> 
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Aug 2016, at 8:35 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anne,
>> 
>> 
>> It might just be the  Mac version on Windows no issues.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the heads up.
>> 
>> 
>> With best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14/08/2016 8:24 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Audible has changed its library view and it’s horrible! You have to hover 
>>> the mouse over the book’s cover image and click to get the download 
>>> options. Sometimes, the mouse simply will not come to the VoiceOver cursor 
>>> and the whole thing is very hit and miss.
>>> I’ve chatted with someone at Audible and he’s going to pass my comments on 
>>> to the web designers.
>>> We’ll just have to wait and see.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Yours sincerely,
>> 
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Re: text navigation help

[Anne Robertson]

Here is a full list of the commands:
Right one character - Right Arrow;

Left one character - Left Arrow;

Right one word - Option-Right Arrow;

Left one word - Option-Left Arrow;

Go to the end of the line - Cmd-Right Arrow;

Go to the beginning of the line - Cmd-Left Arrow;

Go to previous line - Up Arrow;

Go to next line - Down Arrow;

Go to the beginning of the paragraph - Option-Up Arrow;

Go to the end of the paragraph - Option-Down Arrow;

Go to the beginning of the document - Cmd-Up Arrow;

Go to the end of the document - Cmd-Down Arrow.

Add the Shift key to any of these commands to select the text.

Pressing the Return key signals the end of a paragraph, but you can use a line 
break (Ctrl-Return) to go to the next line while still in the same paragraph. 
In Pages, Cmd-FN-Return on a laptop, or Cmd-Enter on an extended keyboard, 
forces a page break.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 17 Aug 2016, at 18:53, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Good question as I've been having trouble with this, too.
> Thanks everyone.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 8/16/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
>> Left and right arrows to move character by character.  Make sure quick nav
>> isn't on.
>> 
>> Option+left and right arrow, again be sure quick nav isn't on, to move word
>> 
>> by word.  Up and down arrow, make sure quick nav isn't on, to move line by
>> line.
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "zoe fiogkos" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:32 PM
>> Subject: text navigation help
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everybody, please help, while in text edit how do I move caricter by
>>> caricter and word by word? I want to go through a document in an other
>>> language and edit it. Also I want to visually see as I'm moving what's in
>>> the curser. So as I hear voiceover and use the keyboard I also want to
>>> see
>>> this visually.
>>> Any help please?
>>> Regards
>>> Zoe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
>>> said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
>>> faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My
>>> only
>>> hope is that it won't be too late..
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.

In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for the 
Page Down command to work.

The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.

The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
Preview.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself suddenly 
> trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down Arrow. 
Not difficult at all.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I remember 
> is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
>> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>> 
>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
>> the Page Down command to work.
>> 
>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
>> 
>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
>> Preview.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
>>> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
>>> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
>>> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
>>> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
>>> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
>>> 
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

No, the command has always been the same.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 25 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Wow, Anne, thank you!  Did there used to be a different command?  I remember 
> it as being something like VO+FN+Shift+  God knows what else.  I just 
> remember trying to get my fingers to do it, and giving up. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down 
>> Arrow. Not difficult at all.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin >> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I 
>>> remember is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson >>> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
>>>> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>>>> 
>>>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area 
>>>> for the Page Down command to work.
>>>> 
>>>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for 
>>>> us.
>>>> 
>>>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not 
>>>> in Preview.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall >>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>>>>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command 
>>>>> is vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering 
>>>>> if there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should 
>>>>> use option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys 
>>>>> on the Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to 
>>>>> actually move the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

Wrap to Page does indeed show what the document would look like if printed, and 
allows VO users to find the page breaks.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 26 Aug 2016, at 13:01, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Interacting was one step I was missing, as I never interact with text 
> unless I need vo-a to track my position. I also never knew what wrap to 
> page/window in Text Edit do. Are they visual changes only, or is there 
> something they do that is helpful to VO users aside from allowing page-level 
> movements? For instance, does 'wrap to page' show what your document would 
> look like, and where page breaks would be, when printed out on paper?
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 09:22, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
>> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>> 
>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
>> the Page Down command to work.
>> 
>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
>> 
>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
>> Preview.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
>>> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
>>> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
>>> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
>>> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
>>> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

The commands you’re thinking about are Go to first or last visible item and Go 
to First or Last Item. These were switched round in El Capitan. To me, this 
makes sense for a VO user who normally doesn’t care what’s visible or not. So 
now, VO-Home goes to first item and not first visible item.
I use VO-Home and VO-End a lot to save time.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 26 Aug 2016, at 14:46, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> I realized after I wrote that the commands I was thinking of were the Home 
> and End commands.  I don't recall the exact keystrokes, but they require 
> pressing a whole lot of keys. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> No, the command has always been the same.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Donna Goodin >> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, Anne, thank you!  Did there used to be a different command?  I 
>>> remember it as being something like VO+FN+Shift+  God knows what else.  I 
>>> just remember trying to get my fingers to do it, and giving up. :)
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Anne Robertson >>> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down 
>>>> Arrow. Not difficult at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin >>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I 
>>>>> remember is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson >>>>> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down 
>>>>>> to work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area 
>>>>>> for the Page Down command to work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for 
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but 
>>>>>> not in Preview.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall >>>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>>>>>>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the 
>>>>>>> command is vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also 
>>>>>>> wondering if there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but 
>>>>>>> you should use option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page 
>>>>>>> up/down keys on the Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to 
>>>>>>> get them to actually move the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: lables compatible in pages?

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Hello Zoe,

There is no label template provided in Pages, but you could create your own if 
you know the dimensions of the labels and the sheet they are on.
You would need to create a template with text boxes of the appropriate size and 
in the correct positions.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 7 Sep 2016, at 00:38, zoe fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys when I was using windows exclusively and had a bit of sight, I had
> bought blank shipping lables from a store called staples here in Toronto. I
> use to use zoomtext and the screen was magnified and I use to fill out the
> lables and print.
> That box had 200 sheets of lables. Now I'm in a situation where I want to
> use these lables to lable jars of homemade jam. Can I use these lables on
> the mac? If yes are they accessible to fill out in pages with voiceover?
> Again if yes where do I go to find the lable number in pages?
> So in word you would go to the mailings tab and choose lable and from there
> you would choose the number on the box avery 5163 and then a page would pop
> up with the grid I would fill out the lables and print.
> Any help please?
> Regards
> Zoe
> 
> 
> by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
> said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
> faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
> hope is that it won't be too late..  
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Re: Ical question

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Hello Marc,

You can get to the first day in the grid by pressing VO-Cmd-x (go to next list).

Cheers,

Anne

On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:33, Marc Sutton wrote:

> Hi Anne,
> Thanks for your ical tips. Do you know of a quick way to get to the grid of 
> dates? Once in add event mode things get a little unpredictable. Thanks.
> Marc

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Re: the mystery is solved! (was Another Annoying issue in mail)

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Steve,

With Mail in classic view and having got rid of the preview pane, the messages 
appear as a list on the right-hand side of the screen, with the mailboxes as a 
list on the left.

In Conversation view, you expand a thread by pressing right arrow and all the 
messages in that thread appear below the first one. Left arrow collapses the 
thread again.

To open a message you press Return and the message is read automatically. To 
close a message, you press Cmd-w since opened messages appear each in their own 
window.

If a message has been read, VO says nothingm, but it does say "Unread", 
"Message was forwarded", etc.

This way of viewing mail could be what you're looking for.

Cheers,

Anne


On 28 Feb 2012, at 18:11, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I'm on Lion 10.7.3 and started out with 10.7.2 before that for a brief
> period.  I never had any problems with threaded messages I us this
> approach with all mailers I work with on all platforms.  My only
> complaint right now with Mail is the message getting marked read when
> you highlight it on the message list.  I like being able to hop back
> and forth with VO-J but that comes with the baggage of marking the
> message as read by merely selecting.  I guess I can't have both ways
> at the same time .  Everything else seems to be OK from what
> I've dealt with so far.

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Re: Question on adding columns in Numbers

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Hello Gigi,

To go to the end of a Numbers document, press VO-Shift-End (VO-FN-Shift-Right 
Arrow on a laptop).

Cheers,

Anne


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> The only thing I have trouble getting done is a command on the keyboard to go 
> to the end of the file. So, I use the track pad if I want to go very far in a 
> large file. 

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Re: Questions about Prismo

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Hello Chris,

I use Prizmo very successfully on my iPhone 4, but it's extremely difficult to 
get good results from a computer screen.

I get really good results from books and other printed materials.

I have no light perception so use the Light Detector app to check that there is 
sufficient light for Prizmo to work.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Can I use this app successfully on an iPhone 4? Can I even use it to 
> recognize text on a computer or any other screen?
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Re: Questions about Prismo

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Hello Paul,

The Light Detector app is just called Light Detector and you just launch it and 
it plays a tone which rises with the light level.


Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago.

Cheers,

Anne



One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for 
visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, by 
saying, "Take Picture", which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image due to 
moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a picture.  You 
turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping the "Settings" 
button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen.  Flick right to the 
"General Settings" button under the "Settings" heading and double tap.  On the 
"General Settings" screen, flick right past the "Capture" heading and set the 
"Alignment Grid" to "Switch button, off", then set the  "Speech Control" to 
"Switch button, on".  I believe both switches are turned on by default, but it 
is several  months since I configured Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off 
the "Alignment Grid" is necessary, but you certainly don't need it to be 
displayed, since you can't see it while using the camera. Once you have checked 
that these settings are in place, double tap the "Settings, back button" in the 
top left corner to return to the "Settings" screen, then double tap the "Done" 
button in the top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen.

The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, 
followed by a "Documents" button at the bottom of the screen that are results 
you want to store in the app.  In general, you will choose to double tap "Text" 
(the first listed entry).

The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the bottom 
of the the next ("Photo") screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image using the 
Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken outside the 
app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before OCR -- generally 
requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to only include the part 
of the image that contains text or correct for distorted pictures because you 
didn't hold the iPhone flat),  and (3) OCR (perform the OCR with an option to 
choose the language to improve the OCR), then display the results for editing, 
copying, etc. or saving in the app's stored "Documents".  You can navigate 
through the app without ever using these buttons, just by double tapping the 
"Next" button in the top right corner of the screen to move through each stage, 
and that's probably the easiest way to use the app when you get started, 
especially if you only work with documents in English. However, if you want to 
OCR a document in a different language, you can improve your results by double 
tapping the "OCR" button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the 
screen) and then flicking left to the language button (e.g., "English") in the 
row of option buttons for that screen, and double tapping.  You'll be able to 
double tap another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that 
you will not hear "selected" announced beside the currently selected language 
in the list, but you can only exit the "Language" menu by either double tapping 
a new language selection or by double tapping the "Cancel" button in the top 
right corner.  Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and 
returned to the "Photo" screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the new 
language, "French", announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting the 
OCR language before applying the "next" button improves the recognition of 
words with accented characters  -- otherwise I may get a "6" for an "e" with 
acute accent, and other such examples.

Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the 
"Settings" menu as outlined earlier.  It is very helpful to use the $0.99 
"Light Detector" app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of the 
optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use 
Prizmo.  (You can hear when the "Light Detector" signal is loudest if you move 
the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to the page. 
 This only gives a rough sense of where to position the phone when you use 
Prizmo, but if you can't hear any difference in signal with Light Detector when 
you move the phone around over the page, chances are that either the background 
light level is too low to take a good image, or you're blocking the light 
source with part of your body.  You should also use a headset connected to the 
headphone jack, since as soon as the iPhone camera is accessed in a mode that 
is capable of responding to your spoken "Take Picture" command the volume of 
VoiceOver through the speaker will drop, and not get restored until you exit 
the camera screen either by double tapping the "Use" button in the 

Re: Questions about Prismo

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Lew,

I don't know how well it would work on an iPad, but I use it on my iPhone. It 
costs €7.99 so I should think that would be £5.99 or something like that.

The developer is Creaceed.

Cheers,

Anne

On 19 Mar 2012, at 20:19, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> sorry to ask. is this for the ipad or iphone? also will it work on the 3GS?
> 
> is there a link for the developer and also is this free or paid?
> 
> cheers
> 
> lew

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Re: a guide on pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Luke,

There is no guide on how to use Pages from a VO perspective. My husband and I 
have put together a course on Pages which we offer via Skype so that we can use 
screen sharing.

The course costs €25 per unit and there are 5 units.

Not everyone wants all the units, it all depends on what people need to do with 
Pages.

In any case, you need a thorough knowledge of VO to cope with Pages as it is 
somewhat idiocyncratic.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hey how is it all going?
> 
> I have been useing VO, with a mac for about 4 months now and really need to 
> learn pages in a more effective way, I was wondering if anyone knew of a 
> overall guide on the bestway VO  can use pages 
> Any help at all would be great 
> 
> 
> ThanksLuke
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Re: a guide on pages

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Hello Johnny,

€25 in US dollars is currently around $35 but the exchange rate varies.

Cheers,

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Re: global replace in TextEdit

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gigi,

To do a global replace in any application, use Cmd-f and enter the search text. 
Navigate right and check the Replace check box. Go further right and enter the 
replacement text. Twice more right and click the All button. Finally, click 
done.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 1 Apr 2012, at 13:44, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Guys. 
> I thought I was pretty computer literate until I tried to do a global replace 
> in TextEdit. I can't even get the help to come up so I can read on it. I 
> selected all the text, went to the menu, and I thought it be under 
> substitutions. I couldn't get TextEdit to let me type in what I wanted  to 
> replace with what. What am I doing wrong here? 
> 
> Frustrated, 
> Gigi 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
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> 
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Re: setting view options for the documents folder

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

On 1 Apr 2012, at 16:37, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
> 
> I would like to have my files and folders displayed as they are in Windows, 
> with folders listed first, and then all files in that folder listed in 
> alphabetical order.

You can't do that on the Mac.

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Re: a guide on pages

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There is no Pages guide, just a course on Pages available via Skype at a cost 
of €25 per unit. There are 5 units altogether but not everyone needs all 5.

Cheers,

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> Hi:
> I missed part of this post. There is a Pages guide?

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Re: Help with an energy parameter in mac please

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Hello Daniela,

There's a check box in the Security & Privacy pane of System Preferences for 
Require password after sleep or screen saver. Also, the delay before sleep may 
be set too short.

Cheers,

Anne


On 3 Apr 2012, at 12:30, Daniela Rubio wrote:

> Hello All:
> A friend of mine just purchased a macbook pro and he did not selected to use 
> a password at startup. How ever, when using the battery, and the computer 
> enters in suspension mode if he doesn't touch any key in 2 minutes, the 
> system asks for a password. If he presses enter all is back to normal, but it 
> is very annoying that the computer doesn't continue to work without asking 
> for an inexistent password. Is there a way of prevent this to happen?
> We already checked the users obtains in system preferences, but we can't find 
> where to fix it.
> Thank you so much!
> 
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Re: command-shift-a

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Jim, just a thought, have you been creating shortcuts in System Preferences? If 
so, it's possible that you've used Cmd-Shift-a for something else which will 
have disabled this command. I know it sounds unlikely, but someone I know did 
this to Cmd-c.

Cheers,

Anne

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>> 
>>> Hi all!
>>> I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week 
>>> or so.
>>> When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my 
>>> finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder.
>>> Any ideas or remedies?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>> 
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Re: Text edit and Lion

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Hello Veronica,

On 5 Apr 2012, at 06:02, Veronica Elsea wrote:
> One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I 
> can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no 
> matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit.

I don't know what you mean about it overwriting files, but it does save 
automatically as you work. However, if you close a file with Cmd-w you will get 
a dialogue asking whether you want to save your changes or not. You still have 
to quit the application with Cmd-q as it does not quit automatically when it 
has no windows open.

> Also, when I open a file, I sure don't land where David does in his little 
> demo. I have to go through a bunch of radio buttons before I find a list view 
> table of document names. Is there a quicker way to open a document?
The first thing that comes to mind is your settings in VoiceOver Utility. In 
the Navigation category, Initial position of VoiceOver cursor should be 
Keyboard focused item.

You talk about opening a file, but it sounds as though you're opening a folder 
containing files. Each file type is associated with a default application. So, 
RTF files automatically open with TextEdit.


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Re: Text edit and Lion

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Hello Veronica,

Quite a lot has changed from Snow Leopard to Lion. One of the most annoying is 
that, by default, windows left open are not closed when you quit an 
application. You can change this behaviour in System Preferences. Go to the 
General pane and look for the check box labelled Restore windows when quitting 
and re-opening apps and uncheck it. A quick way to find this is to use the Item 
Chooser (VO-i) and type res to select only phrases containing that string. 
Press Return to have VO go to the selected item.

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Re: Text edit and Lion

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Hello Veronica,

It's best to start from the document rather than the application. Find your 
document and press Cmd-o and when VoiceOver says "Edit text", interact and all 
the VoiceOver commands will work.

However, before trying that, open System Preferences and go to the General pane 
and uncheck that check box I told you about. It will make your life easier.

Cheers,

Anne


On 5 Apr 2012, at 20:33, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Okay, continuing.
> First, I did double-check my settings in the navis indeesection of the 
> VoiceOver utility and it is indeed set to keyboard focus.
> Here's what happens when I open a file in Text edit. First I open the 
> application. I'm beginning to think I should just go in through the documents 
> folder. Anyway, I hit command-O. The first thing I hear is, plain text 
> encoding. I then move with Vo-right-arrow and hear, forward. Then I reach a 
> series of radio buttons, of which list view is the selected one. Then I reach 
> arrange, menu button. Then I reach a popup button which used to say 
> documents. But last time I was in, it changed to downloads. I pressed 
> vo-space on this button and found my user folder as a choice but not 
> documents. So I selected that. Continuing to move right, I pass search and a 
> side bar table and eventually find the list view table, which does seem to 
> contain my documents.  Eventually I find my practice document and enter on it.
> So, I tried adding some text to it and then closing the document with 
> Command-W. It just saved with no possibility of choosing a don't save option. 
> So it looks like only with a new or untitled document do I get that option 
> when using Command-W. Boy, it just seems like I'll fill up my drive with a 
> zillion versions of my file. I then managed to sort of stop interacting with 
> my text and use vo-left-arrow to work my way back to a versions button. I 
> find a browse all versions button but can't figure out how to get to those 
> versions. Hmmm, truly puzzled.
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Veronica

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Re: quick Numbers question

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Hello Ricardo,

There is no command in Numbers to jump to a specific cell. Join the massive 
band of people complaining about this.

However, you can search for specific content and jump to that cell. Let me know 
if you need instructions on how to do this.

By the way, I find the trackpad commander to be the quickest way of navigating 
to a specific cell.

Cheers,

Anne


On 5 Apr 2012, at 22:33, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just picked up Numbers for the Mac today and I was wondering, how can you 
> jump to different cells?
> 
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Re: quick Numbers question

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Hello Gigi,


Here's how to find specific content,
Turn cursor tracking off;
Press Command-f and enter search term;
Navigate down and interact with scroll area;
Interact with table:
Find desired result;
Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space);
Stop interacting with table and scroll area;
Navigate up to next scroll area;
Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item;
You will be on the selected cell;
Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi Anne. 
> I don't know if Ricardo would like to know, but I would glad if you could 
> tell me how to find specific content in Numbers. Thanks. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi 

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Re: navigation and formatting questions

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Hello Kirsten,

In Pages, you set the type of bullets you want for your bulleted list in the 
Text inspector, List tab. Unfortunately, you won't be able to read the bullets 
with VoiceOver, however, you can check that they're there by using the very 
handy "New TextEdit window with selection" service item as they show up just 
fine in TextEdit.

I have short cuts for several useful service commands which make using the 
iWork suite much more practical.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Apr 2012, at 21:48, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:

> Thanks very much Chris. I shall try out the bullet points thing and see if it 
> works for me. Really I was looking for like how in word for Windows you can 
> write your list, then select it and then select bullet points. With your 
> command here, do I need to do that before I write each part of the list, or 
> if I select them and then press the command will that make them all bullets? 
> Thanks. 
> Kirsten. 

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Re: Libre and Open office

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Hello Steve,

On 8 Apr 2012, at 11:02, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I hear about Pages
> and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table
> manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here

I'm so tired of repeating myself, but I use Pages all the time in my capacity 
as a professional translator. Any tables I find in a document I copy into 
Numbers so that I keep the formatting correct. I manipulate the table in 
Numbers, then copy it back into Pages. It doesn't take long and works fine.

Like any decent office suite, iWork takes time to learn and people just haven't 
got the patience.

Yes, there are problems with the iWork suite. A group of VO commands doesn't 
function such as looking for next colour change so I compensate for this by 
using TextEdit to read my source document, but I have no trouble formatting in 
Pages.

I do think it's about time Apple brought out a new version of iWork. The 
current one is 3 years old and I'm afraid when they do, it's going to be more 
like the IOS version but I'll just have to wait and see.

Anyway, to finish with iWork for the Mac, Keynote is also perfectly manageable 
for a totally blind person.

Cheers,

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Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Hello Ray,

I think the new version of Infovox iVox works differently from the previous 
ones. Have a look in your Applications folder for one called Infovox iVox Voice 
Manager.app.

This is what you use to enable the voices.

Cheers,

Anne

On 12 Apr 2012, at 16:25, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all my 
> Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place where I 
> bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.
> 
> I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.
> 
> Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail address 
> has changed since I did the version 2 voices.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

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Re: got Infovox version 3 and lost all my voices

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Hello Ray,

You'll need to contact the supplier of Infovox iVox to get that fixed.

Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Apr 2012, at 17:07, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Did that.  All voices show as being uninstalled and unregistered.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
>> Hello Ray,
>> 
>> I think the new version of Infovox iVox works differently from the previous 
>> ones. Have a look in your Applications folder for one called Infovox iVox 
>> Voice Manager.app.
>> 
>> This is what you use to enable the voices.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On 12 Apr 2012, at 16:25, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay okay.  I downloaded version 3 and installed it.  I now have lost all 
>>> my Acapela voices and so, I have written to the Origen instroments place 
>>> where I bought the voices from and asked them for my license keys back.
>>> 
>>> I thought this was supposed to be a free upgrade.
>>> 
>>> Part of what makes this a little tricky is the fact that my e-mail address 
>>> has changed since I did the version 2 voices.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
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Re: ABBYY Fine reader

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Hello Becky,

ABBYY FineReader is an OCR program so you can use it to open a PDF image and 
tell it to perform OCR. Just select the PDF file, press VO-Shift-m. Press the 
down arrow twice and you'll hear "Open with, submenu". Go right and press the 
letter "a" for ABBYY FineReader then press Return.

Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Apr 2012, at 22:41, Becky Knaub wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was wondering if Finereader will read PDF documents or is it just a 
> scanning program like kurzweil?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Becky
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Re: ABBYY Fine reader

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Hello,

The only version of ABBYY FineReader that works on a Mac is the Express 
version, but I find it does a good job.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Apr 2012, at 15:45, Beefcakes wrote:

> Hi and everybody, I'm wondering if someone could tell me if ABB why why 
> version 9 will work on the MacBook Pro with lion? Thanks so much, John
> 
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Re: Track pads

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Hello Marc,

If you buy a Mac laptop, you'll have a built-in trackpad, but if you buy a 
desktop Mac, you'll have the option of buying the Magic Trackpad instead of, or 
as well as, a mouse. There are no other brands of trackpad that work with a mac.

As for it's limitations, there are a number of navigation commands already 
mapped to gestures on the trackpad, but you can add the VO commands you use 
most frequently and map them to unused gestures.

It isn't exactly like the iPhone because Mac OS X isn't IOS 5. So, on the Mac, 
you have gestures for interacting and stopping the interaction, for instance.

None of this will make sense to you until you have a Mac and learn about the OS.

Using the trackpad with VoiceOver means turning on the trackpad commander which 
renders the trackpad inoperable for moving the mouse. However, a simple gesture 
turns the trackpad commander off and on, so getting sighted help to fix a 
problem is still possible.

I can't give you any comparisons with Windows and its various screen readers as 
I've never used Windows.

Cheers,

Anne


On 14 Apr 2012, at 16:38, Marc Rocheleau wrote:

> Is there any brand of track pads people can recommend? Using an
> iPhone, this intrigues me a great deal -- are all the gestures the
> same as on that device as well? Obviously my next question is what
> limitations does the track pad have when it comes to navigating
> through the Mac OSX?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Marc

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Re: VoiceOver practice mode

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Hello Marc,

To enter Keyboard Help, as it is called, press VO-k and press Escape to leave 
it.

When in this mode, VoiceOver will identify the keys as you press them, and if 
you press a VO command, it will tell you what it does.

This mode is very useful if you think you remember a command but you don't want 
to make a mistake.

Do you know about VO-h-h which gives you the full list of VO commands divided 
into categories?

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hey all,
> 
> I thought I remembered hearing awhile back that there is a VoiceOver
> practice mode on the Mac. If so, how does it work exactly? Thanks!
> 
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Re: Abby Fine Reader Question

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Hello Gigi,

I use VueScan to scan multipage documents as it allows me to put as many images 
as I like into one file which I then open with ABBYY FineReader. VueScan also 
does really good quality scans.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Apr 2012, at 17:03, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Here's my question, and I know I must be doing something wrong. I don't know 
> how useful the help file is for us--if you guys know what I mean. Once you 
> have done a page, how do you add another to your file, or can you, in our 
> case?
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> Eugenia Firth
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Re: How do you put the name to a pages document in IOS

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Hello Daniela,


Here's how to rename a Pages document on an iPhone, I assume it works the same 
way with an iPad. Warning: you need a steady hand.

You have to select Documents, then in the list of documents, the one you've 
just created will be called something like Blank, probably followed by a 
number. Place one finger on the one you wish to rename, toggle VoiceOver off, 
double-tap with that one finger, then toggle VoiceOver back on again. You'll be 
in an edit field which is the file name. Type the new name, then tap Done.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Apr 2012, at 17:15, Daniela Rubio wrote:

> Hi all!
> Please, SOS. How do I put the name to a pages document in IOS version using 
> an iPad
> ?
> I go to documents and select the document and the date, but I can't find the 
> text field where to put a name.
> thank yous o much for your help!
> ? 
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Re: Disabling the preview pane in Lion mail

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Hello Franc,

First of all, you need to be in classic view to do this. You also need to have 
the Trackpad Commander turned off.

Go to the horizontal splitter above the body of the message using the VO keys, 
then bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and double click using either the trackpad or 
the mouse, depending on what kind of computer you have. If you move the mouse 
pointer even slightly before the double click, it won't work.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Apr 2012, at 16:10, Frank Ventura wrote:

> Hi all, I am using a Mac with the latest of Lion. Can anyone tell me how to 
> disable the preview pane in Mac mail. I had some old directions for, I think, 
> Leopard but they don't seem to work.
> Thanks
> Frank
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Numbers, a useful tip

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Hello Numbers users,

Here's a tip for moving quickly up or down a large table in Numbers.

Bring the mouse to the VO cursor (VO-Cmd-F5) and make sure that Trackpad 
Commander is off.

To go down the table, swipe up the trackpad with two fingers then click with 
it. Bring the VO cursor to the mouse (VO-Shift-F5).

To move up the table, swipe down with two fingers.

I always find myself in the column I started in, so you can choose which column 
to follow.

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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

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Hello Veronica,

If you are not interacting with the messages table and just navigating up and 
down with the arrow keys, VO should announce unread, reply was sent, message 
was forwarded, and so on, but not "Read". However, if you interact with the 
messages table, the status column will say "Blank" if the message has been read.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 16 Apr 2012, at 23:22, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I too managed to turn off the preview pane. I did the double tap on the track 
> pad of my macbook air. It didn't say anything or make a sound, but the 
> preview pane did in fact disappear. Here's my question.
> I also went into the view menu and turned off conversations. Now it does not 
> say unread or read for any message. Is there anything I should have done or 
> set to make this happen. It did say reply sent though. Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

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Hello Veronica,

It sounds as though the preview pane is still there and the messages are being 
opened as you arrow down through them.

How do you read your messages? I read mine by pressing Return, then I close 
them with Cmd-w. If VO-j takes you to the body of the messages, then the 
preview pane is still there.

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Re: Using a mouse

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Hello Mike,

In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity category, select the Announcements tab and  
check the check box Speak text under mouse after delay. Then set the delay to 
zero. When you run one finger over the trackpad, VO will speak what is under 
the mouse.

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Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.

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Hello Veronica,

I'm confused by what you're seeing, too.

When you're on the messages table but not interacting, what happens when you 
press VO-Down Arrow? You should find a horizontal splitter and not be able to 
go down any further.

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Re: Numbers, Can it read column and row titles?

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Hello Becky,

Yes, VO can announce headers. In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity, announcements, 
check the Speak header when navigating across a table row check box.

When navigating along a row, you'll hear the column number, the contents of the 
cell and then the header name. You can get both cell coordinates by pressing 
VO-Shift-t.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Apr 2012, at 18:34, Becky Knaub wrote:

> Hi all this is pretty urgent.
> I need to  use numbers to do a class assignment. I need to know if VO can 
> read cullumn titles and row titles like JAWS can. Thanks.
> 
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Re: using the mouse.

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Hello Veronica,

In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity category, select the Announcements tab and  
check the check box Speak text under mouse after delay. Then set the delay to 
zero. When you run one finger over the trackpad, VO will speak what is under 
the mouse.

Cheers,

Anne



On 18 Apr 2012, at 23:09, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi everyone! I can't believe I'm doing this. It drives me crazy when there's 
> just been a discussion on a list about something and then someone writes in 
> and asks, what was that again? So, tail between legs, ears back, here I go.
> I was so excited about mail finally behaving that I accidentally deleted the 
> message about using the actual mouse. I'd love to be able to wander around 
> the track pad and get VoiceOver feedback. 
> Is it that I go into universal access and change the delay there to zero? I 
> think there's another step I've forgotten though. So please forgive me and I 
> promise to pay closer  attention from now on. 
> But if someone could resend me that original post, I'd be most grateful. 
> Thanks so much.
> 
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Re: Messages table not reading subject after adding new mailboxes in Mail.

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Hello Veronica,

The fields that appear in the messages table are controlled by what you have 
selected in the View menu. You can check or uncheck whatever you like.

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Re: web navigation?

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Hello Alex,

Even with Quick Nav on, you can still use the normal VO commands to navigate by 
character, word, line, sentence, etc. You can also lock the VO keys to minimise 
the number of keys to be pressed.

Cheers,

Anne

On 30 Apr 2012, at 03:15, Alex Hall wrote:

> I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to
> navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't
> read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're
> reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is
> spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the
> line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or
> character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by
> moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong
> key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the
> "lines" setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea
> what it thinks a "line" is, and it never seems to move me anywhere.

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Re: web navigation?

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Hello Alex,

All the VO commands are shown in the commands menus which you get to by 
pressing VO-h-h.

When in a text area, you need to interact for VO commands to work. However, 
usually, you can navigate using just the arrow keys. As for editing text, the 
insertion point is always between two characters, so if you're navigating to 
the right, the insertion point is immediately after the last thing VoiceOver 
spoke. If you're navigating to the left, it's before the last thing VO said. If 
you press VO-F4, VO will tell you exactly where the insertion point is.

Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Apr 2012, at 13:51, Alex Hall wrote:

> How, on both counts? arrowing, even in text areas, never has seemed
> very consistent; I find myself guessing until I find what I want.
> Maybe quick nav complicates things, I don't know. I didn't know you
> could lock the vo keys, that sounds useful. I think I need to find a
> complete keyboard reference for vo, as huge as that may be. Does such
> a thing exist?

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Re: Word count in Pages

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Hello Mike,

On 30 Apr 2012, at 16:56, Michael Malarsie wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to find the word count in pages?
It's in the Document inspector under the Info tab.

> Also, is there a shortcut to start the spell check?
Have you tried Cmd-colon? I use Cmd-semicolon and correct as I go through the 
document.

>   Lastly, is there a way to change the program itself to Spanish instead 
> of English?
For the whole program to be in Spanish, your machine must be running in 
Spanish. But you can change the document language in the Text inspector in the 
More tab. You need to select the whole of the text for the change to be 
possible.

Cheers,

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Re: ColorVisor, color identifier for iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Prizmo is a really good multilingual OCr app for the iPhone. There's certainly 
a learning curve but I've had great success with it and I have no sight at all.

Cheers,

Anne


On 2 May 2012, at 09:09, Jan Blüher wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
> 
> thanks for your suggestion. However, OCR is some quite complex staff, which I 
> am not experienced in.
> Anyway, there are some OCR apps on the App Store (e.g. PERFECT OCR), although 
> I do not know about their accessibility.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> ColorVisor - The app to identify colors.
> Now available on the iTunes App Store:
> http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
> web: http://visorApps.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
> 
> tax number: DE281706766
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 01.05.2012 um 18:39 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.:
> 
>> Hello Jan,
>> 
>> If you are interested in developing an app with a ready market, I suggest a 
>> reasonably priced OCR APP for the iPhone.  You may know that Kurzweil has 
>> developed such an app for the National Federation of the Blind, but it costs 
>> over $1000 and is not available on the iPhone.
>> 
>> Just thought you might be interested, as a developer.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> Rafael Bejarano
>> On May 1, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jan Blüher wrote:
>> 
>> Hallo MacVisionaries,
>> 
>> my name is Jan Blueher. I'm a blind developer of iPhone and iPad apps. My 
>> app ColorVisor is a color identifier that blind people may use for their 
>> needs. VoiceOver is fully supported.
>> 
>> You will find the app on the App Store at
>> http://iTunes.com/app/ColorVisor
>> 
>> More information about the app can be found on my web site at
>> http://visorApps.com/en/ColorVisor/
>> 
>> and there is an AppleVis app test at
>> http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/utilities/colorvisor
>> 
>> Every feedback to the ColorVisor and questions about app development in 
>> general are very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Greetings from Dresden (Germany)
>> 
>> Jan Blueher
>> 
>> ---
>> ColorVisor - The app to identify colors.
>> Now available on the iTunes App Store:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1
>> ---
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>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Germany
>> 
>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> tax number: DE281706766
>> 
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Re: Clicking Column Headers?

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Hello Steve,

To sort a column, just interact sufficiently to be able to place the VO cursor 
on your chosen column and use the VO sort command (VO-vertical line) On my 
British keyboard, this is shift on the rightmost key on the home row, the key 
in the angle of the Return key. The first time you issue this command it will 
sort up the way, and the second time, it sorts down the way.

Cheers,

Anne


On 2 May 2012, at 21:35, Steve Holmes wrote:

> How do you click column headers with VO on a Mac? An example of where
> I need to do this is with the list view in iTunes where I want to sort
> the tracks differently than Artist.  In my immediate situation, I have
> some "various artist" type collections where I don't want tracks
> sorted by track artist.
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Re: web navigation?

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Hello Steve,

On 2 May 2012, at 18:45, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I thought I had read that
> the modes (DOM or Groups) could be selected for each site you go to
Maybe if you create an ativity it could be done. I've never bothered because I 
have a keyboard commander shortcut and a Quick Nav shortcut to switch modes. I 
usually use groups, but for reading a big chunk of a page, I use DOM.

I also use the Safari Reader for reading articles.

Cheers,

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Re: Clicking Column Headers?

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Hello Steve,

Have you looked at the full list of VO commands? You can find them by doing 
VO-h-h. You'd be amazed!

Cheers,

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Re: web navigation?

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Hello Steve,

Safari Reader is a normal part of Safari. You press Cmd-Shift-r, wait a second 
or two, and VoiceOver starts reading the article. The beauty of it is that it 
brings together all the pages without you having to click on "Next page".

Cheers,

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Re: Advice on switching from PC

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Will,

I'm not a zoom user, but my husband sometimes uses it and he also teaches 
low-vision Mac users. He says that there is a random bug that causes focus to 
jump to one edge of the screen for no apparent reason. Apple is aware of it but 
so far, no fix is forthcoming.

However, many people manage fine, despite this bug. And since you won't be 
using VoiceOver, you'll be able to use Office for Mac as well as iWork.

Cheers,

Anne


On 3 May 2012, at 17:35, Will Cummings wrote:

> I reiterate my thanks for such awesome info.  If I do go ahead and take the 
> plunge into the Mac world, this info on Fusion and Parallel's will be very 
> useful.  I'm assuming that either Parallel's or Fusion should allow me to run 
> things like ZT, JFW, or K1000 alongside the Mac environment?
> 
> One thing I am sensing is that most of the respondants use mostly VO.  Since 
> I anticipate using primarily Zoom and falling back to VO or a combination of 
> the two, is there anyone on the list who uses Zoom a lot who could add 
> anything?  Specifically, on how Zoom/VO well may or may not interact with 
> web-based databases and the various advanced word processing options out 
> there?  Like I mentioned, I've heard there have been some issues with Zoom 
> tracking in Pages and Word, and would love to know if this remains an issue 
> as I still like to zoom in and see what I'm writing as I slave away for 
> school assignments :) 
> 
> Thanks again everyone!
> 
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Re: Data Detecter

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Hello Steve,

On 3 May 2012, at 20:26, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I appreciate
> that it tells you if it is a phone number address or whatever but it
> also says that every time you cursor over a word or even individual
> letters.  Any way to turn this last aspect off?
> 
If only! To have the item spelled out, press VO-w and it will only say "Data 
detector" at the end. Even with verbosity set to low, it still says it.

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Re: reading in files or web pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Stacey,

The first thing you have to remember when reading a text file is to interact 
with the text, otherwise, the VO commands won't work.

To read from top of document, VO-b;
To read from current position, VO-a;
Read next character, VO-shift-Right Arrow;
Read previous character, VO-shift-Left Arrow;
Read next word, VO-Right Arrow;
Read previous word, VO-Left Arrow;
Read line, VO-l;
Read next line, VO-Down Arrow;
Read previous line, VO-Up Arrow;
Read sentence, VO-s;
Read next sentence, VO-Command-Page Down;
Read previous sentence, VO-Command-Page Up;
Read paragraph, VO-p;
Read next paragraph, VO-Shift-Home;
Read previous paragraph, VO-Shift-End.

On a laptop, Home = FN-Left Arrow;
End = FN-Right Arrow;
Page up = FN-Up Arrow;
Page down = FN-Down Arrow.

All this information can be found by pressing VO-h-h and looking in the Text 
menu. It's worth reading through the VO commands just to be aware of what's 
available.

Reading Web pages can be tricky, depending on how they are written. In DOM 
mode, you can only navigate horizontally, but VO-b and VO-a work fine. You can 
also navigate by headers, links, visited links, form controls and more.


Cheers,

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Re: Advice on switching from PC

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Hello Will,

Just to clarify things. iWork is accessible with VO, Office for Mac is not. 
Zoom users do not have these problems of accessibility.

Cheers,

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Re: language

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ioana,

On 16 May 2012, at 00:14, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> I am interested in finding a setting on mac that would allow vo to change 
> language according to coding of web page. iPhone does this well if you are on 
> standard language in rotor. If you select a specific language it ignores 
> coding.
> Is there any equivalent setting on mac that anyone can think of?

No. You just have to do it manually.

Cheers,

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Creating keyboard shortcuts broken

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

In OS X 10.7.3 and OS X 10.7.4, it seems that VO users can no longer create 
shortcuts for Services or other predefined categories in System Preferences. We 
can still create shortcuts for commands in specific applications.

Since 10.7.3, there has been an Add button next to the command name but VO 
users can't click it. I tried VO-Space, VO-Shift-Space, Space Bar alone, 
Return, and bringing the mouse, turning off VO, and clicking with the trackpad, 
but nothing worked.

Has anyone else had this trouble? I've already reported it to Accessibility.

Cheers,

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Re: Creating keyboard shortcuts broken

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jonathan,

No, that does not solve my problem. I interact with the second column, and if 
there is already a shortcut assigned, I can change it. However, if there is no 
shortcut assigned, the Add button does nothing. This is broken in OS x 10.7.3 
and 10.7.4. Before that, there was no Add button, just an editable field.

I reported the problem to Accessibility, but have had no reply.

Cheers,

Anne


On 23 May 2012, at 19:45, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> Anne,
> 
> A couple of days back I figured out a bit of this and gave information to 
> Mark Buring Heart Baxter.  
> 
> Essentially, the key binding is now in the same column as the action, and 
> does not read unless you interact with that column.
> 
> Let us know if that solves your issue.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
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Re: Creating keyboard shortcuts broken

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I can create application shortcuts without trouble, my problem is with creating 
shortcuts for Services items. These are the ones that show up in the Services 
menu. I have several that I created a long time ago such as New TextEdit Window 
Containing Selection, but I can't create new ones. The Add button simply 
doesn't work.

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Re: Kapten GPS

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Hello Mike,

I've used this app and the price you see is for one month. I think the lifetime 
price is about ten times the monthly price.

The app is good for planning routes that include both walking and using public 
transport, but I don't find it to be as good as Navigon for giving turn-by-turn 
directions at the right time.

I haven't bothered with it for a year or so. Also, it hasn't been updated since 
November 2010 which is a bit disturbing.

I like the combination of Navigon and Ariadne GPS. Navigon runs happily in the 
background with Ariadne as the current app.

Cheers,

Anne

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> Hello all,
> 
> During my recently-concluded trip to the States, I spoke with a blind 
> individual who mentioned in passing that he used a navigation App called 
> Kapten GPS.  Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to find out how well the 
> App worked for him.  In the App Store, I found an App called Kapten Europe 
> GPS Multitransport for 5.99 Euros, but I have yet to determine whether or not 
> this price includes the map updates.  It probably does not.
> 
> Has anyone ever tried out this App, and how were your results?
> 
> Thank you very much,
> 
> Mike

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Re: Vuescan?

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Hello Kirsten,

First of all, the app for iPhone is for use with wi-fi scanners.

Have you got my set-up guide for VueScan? If not, let me know and I'll send it 
to you.

The beauty of VueScan is the quality of the scans which enables ABBYY 
FineReader to do a better job on the OCR.

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Re: Time Shortcut Key

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On older laptops, there is no Option key on the right. This is the case on my 
five-year-old white MacBook. The key to the right of the Command key is an 
Enter key, not to be confused with the Return key.

In these cases, you can choose to use the left-hand Option key for the Keyboard 
Commander.

Cheers,

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Re: spell checking with vo and pages help

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Hello Craig,

You have to use the standard spell check in Pages. Cmd-Colon will check the 
whole document, or Cmd-Semicolon will highlight the next misspelled word.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I thought I had this info already but cant find it. I am looking for some 
> instructions for spellcheck with pages using vo on a mbp running lion.it 
> doesn't appear to work the same as in text edit. thanks for any assistance.
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Re: Adjusting the font size in Pages

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Hello Ezzie,

To change the font size, you can either highlight the portion of text you want 
to change and use the plus and minus keys to increase or decrease the size by 1 
point, or highlight the text to change and press Cmd-t to open the font window 
where you can change anything you like.

Cheers,

Anne


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> 
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> 
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Inability to add shortcut in System Preferences

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Here's the reply I got from Accessibility about my problem adding shortcuts for 
predefined items in System Preferences.

Cheers,

Anne



Hello, 

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. Unfortunately we cannot 
comment on when it may be resolved. 

Apple Accessibility

Hello,

There appears to be a major bug in OS X 10.7.3 and OS X 10.7.4. VoiceOver users 
cannot create keyboard shortcuts, other than for specific applications, in 
System Preferences.

I really hope that you can help with this one.

Cheers,

Anne Robertson

To reproduce this bug, Turn VoiceOver on and open System Preferences.
Go to the Keyboard pane and select Keyboard Shortcuts.
Select a category in the first table, then navigate to the second table and 
interact with it.
Choose a command for which you wish to create a shortcut (it must be one that 
doesn't have a shortcut already).
For this purpose, I've chosen from the Services category, Open Selected File in 
TextEdit.
Interact with the second column which contains the command name, the add 
shortcut button, and a text field.
Whether the first column check box is checked or not, the command name and text 
field in the second column are dimmed.
Try clicking the button. I tried VO-space, Space on its own, VO-Shift-Space, 
Return, bringing the mouse, turning off VO and double-clicking with the 
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Re: Couple Safari Questions

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Steve,

To get the actual URL for a link, navigate to the link and press VO-Shift-u. 
You can then copy that URL by pressing VO-Shift-c which copies the last spoken 
phrase to the clipboard.

Cheers,

Anne


On 31 May 2012, at 22:49, Steve Holmes wrote:
> That's one thing I miss from the Windows and Linux browsers, the
> ability to view the bottom status line and see the actual URL for a
> selected link.  I don't know of any way to do this with Safari.

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Re: Inability to add shortcut in System Preferences

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Hello Jonathan,

Thank you so much! The one thing I hadn't tried was turning cursor tracking 
off. The simulated mouse click didn't work for me, but clicking with the 
trackpad did.

The problem with Command-tab has been around for a while now. It seems to 
happen when you've got Keyboard Shortcuts selected in System Preferences. You 
can still use the Application Selector, though.

Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Jun 2012, at 13:47, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> I was able to do this!  It was painful though.
> 
> 1. turn off cursor tracking.
> 2 interact with the item you want to add a shortcut to.
> 3. There will be either two items (title and chortcut) or three items (title, 
> add shortcut button , and inactive text box)
> 4. Move VO cursor to the second item (either the button or the shortcut)
> 5. Route mouse to VO cursor and simulate a mouse click.
> 6. Voice over will announce "edit text"
> 7. Enter your shortcut stroke.
> 8. You will now be at the bottom of the table.
> Also note: when I have done this command-tab then became inactive.  This 
> might have been from my testing, or it might be a bug.  In any case,
> the only way I was able to leave system prpreferences was to quit. 
> 
> Also as a FYI hitting the delete key at step 8 will cause the keyboard short 
> cut to be removed.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan

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Re: Inability to add shortcut in System Preferences

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Daniela,

I tried your suggestion but it doesn't work for me. The only shortcuts that 
give me trouble are the ones where the action is predefined in System 
Preferences, but there is no standard shortcut in place. However, Jonathan's 
method works.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 1 Jun 2012, at 14:22, Daniela Rubio wrote:

> If you have the mouse to follow the vo cursor check box checked in Vo 
> utility, navigation, you can work that without turning cursor tracking off. 
> Just move your vo cursor to the empty edit area and make click with vo shift 
> space. In that way you save a lot of time.
> Enter your command and then stop interacting, then move your vo cursor oout 
> from there and you can go on.
> Hope it helps!
> 
> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.

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Re: Couple Safari Questions

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Hello Steve,

I just had a look at that page and found that VO-Shift-m on one of the language 
links gave me useless stuff like Reload page, whereas bringing the mouse and 
doing Control-Click using the trackpad gave me the full contextual menu for a 
link.

I find that VO-Shift-m rarely works in Safari but Control-Click is pretty 
reliable.

Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Jun 2012, at 14:56, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> It didn't quite work for me as you described I found that I had to do 
> Option+Return in order to get the link to download.  I also had to do the 
> Command+L step from within the PDF view; I was originally trying to do it by 
> closing that PDF view first but that put the original page URL back in the 
> address box.  Anyway, you gave some good tips there and I got what I wanted.  
> I will paste in the URL to the page I've been playing with.
> 
> http://www.insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio-players/NS-CLHD01.html?supportTab=open
> 
> It spreads over to a second line here on my machine.  With that page loaded, 
> look for an H2 labeled Documentation.  The links immediately following are 
> languages for the manuals.  It's those language links that you can have some 
> fun with.

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Re: Changing the language

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Hello Rahul,

It would be cheaper for you to upgrade to Lion than to buy the pack of French 
voices from Assistiveware. The Infovox iVox voices from Assistiveware are much 
better than the Nuance voices you'll get with Lion, but they'll cost you over 
three times as much.

Cheers,

Anne

On 1 Jun 2012, at 23:37, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm using Snow Leopard 10.6.8
> How can I change the VoiceOver language from English to French?
> I have to read something in French, so a French voice would be more suitable 
> than Alex for that purpose.
> 
> Your help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: pages

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Hello Luke,

To change the font in a Pages document, highlight the whole document (Cmd-a) 
then press Cmd-t to open the Fonts pallet and select the one you want. Cmd-t 
will hide it again.

If you want to change the font for a portion of the text, just highlight that 
portion and do as before.

Cheers,

Anne


On 2 Jun 2012, at 10:17, Luke Henson wrote:

> hey guys 
> 
> What would be the quickest way in changeing the font in a pages document 
> 
> any tips or tricks 
> 
> 
> big thanks
> 
> Luke
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Re: pages

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Hello Luke,

After opening the Font window, press VO-Down Arrow twice to find the row of 
headings. You'll land first on Collection which is a table containing choices 
of font collections such as English and Favorites.

To the right is Family. This is where you select the font such as Calibri or 
Times or whatever you like.

To the right again is Typeface which only contains information if the chosen 
font has variations such as italic or bold.

To the right again is Size. Here there is an edit field in which you can just 
type a number such as 12 for 12-point. Alternatively, you can select the size 
from the table below.

You then just press Cmd-t to hide the Font window and press an arrow key to 
unhighlight the text.

In Pages, before trying to change anything, you need to make sure that the 
focus is actually on the text. To do this, interact with the text then bring 
the mouse and press VO-Shift-Space bar.

Cheers,

Anne






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> thanks for that
> 
> could you please explain a little more about how to change the font
> hopefully not such a stupid question lol  

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Re: pages

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Hello Walter,

I think I counted 17 types of résumé templates in Pages! I don't know about 
podcasts on Pages but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Jun 2012, at 06:13, Walter Harper wrote:

> Hello all,
> Is there a template in pages for writing resumes?  Also I'm looking for some 
> podcast on pages as well.
> Walter 
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Re: VO is unable to read a book in PDF format

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Hello Rahul,

If the book is indeed just images, then ABBYY FineReader Express for Mac will 
do the OCR for you. You can buy it from the Mac App Store. I think it costs 
around $80.

Cheers,

Anne


On 5 Jun 2012, at 18:40, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just downloaded a book in PDF and tried to read it with Preview and Safari.
> But I assume that the pages of the book are in the form of images, so 
> VoiceOver is unable to read them.
> So, what should I do to convert the book into a VoiceOver-accessible form?
> I used to use Fine Reader for this purpose in Windows.
> 
> As always, your help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rahul
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Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad

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Most people find Prizmo to be the best OCR app for iPhone. Here is a link to 
the Prizmo guide on Applevis:


I suspect it works best on an iPhone since it has a better camera than other 
IOS devices.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I would like to know if there is any good or cout software for iPhone or iPad
> If it exists, which is better? An iPhone or the new iPad? 
> Please let me know the name of such a software.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
> Thank you
> Cheers
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Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad

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Hello Mary,

On 18 Jun 2012, at 21:54, Mary Scott wrote:

> So does this maake it possible to take a picture of printed material and it 
> will read it back on the iPhone?

Not exactly. Once Prizmo is set up correctly, you select Text, take the picture 
of the page, tap Use and wait for the OCR to be completed.

It takes some practice to get the knack.

Cheers,

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Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Lisette,

I have an iPhone 4 and have been using Prizmo successfully in both English and 
French for over a year now. I'm totally blind, no light perception, and yet it 
still works for me, often at the first attempt!

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Jun 2012, at 22:24, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> My understanding is that Prismo is not worth bothering with unless you have 
> an iPhone 4s. On anything lower the camera isn't good enough. That's why I 
> haven't bought it. I hear it's quite good on the 4s though
> 
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Re: highlighting text in pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Maria,

To highlight the passages in Pages, you could select the section and change the 
colour. Press Cmd-Shift-c to open the colour window where you can choose your 
colour. The same command closes it again.

Cheers,

Anne


On 19 Jun 2012, at 02:10, Maria Chapman wrote:

> HI.
> 
> I am scanning a text book for my course.  My tutor wants me to highlight any 
> text that either won't read properly or any diagrams as I come across them.  
> In ms word I was shading the text.  Is there an equivalent way to do this in 
> pages?  If not, can anyone suggest how i can mark the section i need help 
> with?  Also when i export a document to word format and then save it after 
> making changes will it stay in that format?  IE will I be able to open it in 
> word when I get to TAFE?  
> 
> thanks
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
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