Re: Macbook Air microphone

[Mr. L. Alexander]

simply doesn't. they way around it is to use a USB mic or the inbuilt mic on 
the mac.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 00:17, Hank Smith wrote:

> Hello how does that work if you want to hook up some speakers, and a line 
> input device at the same time if there is only 1 audio plug?
> Hank
> On 12/5/2011 12:15 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> 
>> tjere we go. the 1 audio port is a combo jack for line in and line out 
>> signals. this won't affect the inbuilt microphone.
>> 
>> lew.
>> 
>> P.S: what do you think of the 11" macbook air? I'm thinking of it as my 
>> toolbox mac. any good or bad thoughts on it?
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 18:52, Traci wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>>  
>>> I have the 11-inch MBA Summer 2011.  It is running Lion.
>>>  
>>> Traci
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Chris Blouch
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Macbook Air microphone
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming it's the same for the MBA but i regularly use standard wired 
>>> headphones and the built-in mic for Skype calls. Unless your headset has an 
>>> extra segment on the plug for a microphone your internal mic should keep on 
>>> working.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/11 1:19 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 Let's hope this question isn't too stupid.  Lol!
  
 If I have a regular headset plugged in, can I use my MBA's microphone?  
 I'm getting a sense here, that plugging the headset in, has blocked the 
 microphone.
  
 Thanks,
 Traci
  
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
>> Mr. L. Alexander.
>> Free Macs For The Blind.
>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
>> Direct line: 07936 877500
>> 
>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working 
>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
>> 
>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
>> 
>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to 
>> help anybody disabled with anything Apple!
>> http://www.mac-access.net
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
> facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
> Klango:
> hanksmith
> Skype:
> hank.smith966
> Amateur radio call sign:
> ke7ief
> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
> also you can find my youtube channel at:
> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Mr. L. Alexander.
Free Macs For The Blind.
E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
Direct line: 07936 877500

Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple 
macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!

Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.

Mac Ac

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Larry Skutchan]

You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or through 
the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is not 
accessible.

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I 
>> think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and 
>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost 
>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some 
>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and 
>> therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app 
>> for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a 
>> full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>> 
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
>> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
>> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
>> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
>> with iTunes, or vlc.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable 
>>> box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows Media 
>>> Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it with 
>>> Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure 
>>> of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the cards, and 
>>> don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s not 
>>> accessible with VoiceOver. 
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> it used to be voice over friendly.
> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
> facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
> Klango:
> hanksmith
> Skype:
> hank.smith966
> Amateur radio call sign:
> ke7ief
> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
> also you can find my youtube channel at:
> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

becoming member of v i phone

[Paul Erkens]

Hi listers,
When attempting to subscribe to the v i phone list, I get a message saying I 
need to be invited. I suppose they are doing this to prevent a constant member 
stream of folks joining leaving joining leaving all the time. Would anyone mind 
sending me an invitation for viphone so I can subscribe, if you know how to do 
that? Or am I wrong in thinking I need to be invited?

Paul.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Reading Chat History in Adium

[Jessica]

Can we chat off list?  I'm still a new Atium user, and am having a hard time 
setting it up, so could use some pointers.
 I can get it to sign me onto Aim, but have put in my password for fb and 
msn multiple times and it refuses to sign in, and apparently thinks it's 
incorrect.
- Original Message - 
From: "Deb Lewis" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:59 PM
Subject: Reading Chat History in Adium


Hi:
I'm using Adium to participate in IRC. It's all going very well except that 
occasionally I need to review the chat history. I've looked everywhere to 
find it and through all the menus. Any pointers on how to go about this, if 
it's possible, are much appreciated. TIA.


Deb

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: learning how to copy text on Safari

[Jessica]

I'm a little curious about that myself.  I tried that when I tried to copy the 
serial number for my Mac, and the Phrase that ended up copying instead was the 
notification that I was on a button, instead of the serial number.- 
Original Message - 
  From: Traci 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: learning how to copy text on Safari


  Hmmm, this copying last phrase sounds interesting.  How long or short can the 
phrase be?


  Thanks for the tip!

  Sent by Macbook Air Mail


  On Dec 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:


Hi there!
I've set up a keyboard commander stroke to copy last phrase to clip board!
So I only have to press right option+C instead of vo+shift+C!
Also I sometimes have to use vo+l to read the line to get all the info!
But when you've copied it then you paste as normal!
Colin
Qapla!


On 6 Dec 2011, at 00:16, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:


  the problem is it depends on how the page was created.  sometimes I have 
to copy the whole screen, then erase what i don't want in a text edit file and 
then copy what i wanted.  good luck, max  

  On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:


Hey all,


Can you point me in the right direction to learn how to better copy 
text while in Safari?


I thought I had a pretty good hang of this, but sometimes I can't get 
any of the methods I know to work.  I was on my banking site on the Mac today, 
for the first time, and I wanted to copy the confirmation number, to paste it 
into Bean.


Any help/guidance is appreciated.


Thanks,
Traci


Sent by Macbook Air Mail




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.





  -- 
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.





-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.




  -- 
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Reading Chat History in Adium

[Deb Lewis]

I don't have AIM so can't comment on that. someone else asked me about FB and 
signing in so I've agreed to try that and see what happens.
Meanwhile, I've answered my own question about the chat history quite by 
accident.


On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Jessica wrote:

> Can we chat off list?  I'm still a new Atium user, and am having a hard time 
> setting it up, so could use some pointers.
> I can get it to sign me onto Aim, but have put in my password for fb and msn 
> multiple times and it refuses to sign in, and apparently thinks it's 
> incorrect.
> - Original Message - From: "Deb Lewis" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:59 PM
> Subject: Reading Chat History in Adium
> 
> 
> Hi:
> I'm using Adium to participate in IRC. It's all going very well except that 
> occasionally I need to review the chat history. I've looked everywhere to 
> find it and through all the menus. Any pointers on how to go about this, if 
> it's possible, are much appreciated. TIA.
> 
> Deb
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Randy Stegall]

You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, but 
it can work.

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
> not accessible.
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  
>>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and 
>>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost 
>>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some 
>>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and 
>>> therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app 
>>> for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a 
>>> full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>>> 
>>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
>>> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
>>> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
>>> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
>>> with iTunes, or vlc.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
  
 Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable 
 box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows 
 Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it 
 with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m 
 not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the 
 cards, and don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s 
 not accessible with VoiceOver.
 Any help would be appreciated.
  
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> it used to be voice over friendly.
>> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
>> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
>> 
>> -- 
>> website:
>> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
>> personal email:
>> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
>> facebook:
>> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
>> Klango:
>> hanksmith
>> Skype:
>> hank.smith966
>> Amateur radio call sign:
>> ke7ief
>> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
>> also you can find my youtube channel at:
>> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: learning how to copy text on Safari

[Matt Dierckens]

What I do, is just find the text I want to cop and hit ctrl option c and it 
will cop the last spoken text to the pasteboard, then open up textedit and 
paste.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-12-06, at 11:52 AM, Jessica wrote:

> I'm a little curious about that myself.  I tried that when I tried to copy 
> the serial number for my Mac, and the Phrase that ended up copying instead 
> was the notification that I was on a button, instead of the serial 
> number.- Original Message -
> From: Traci
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: learning how to copy text on Safari
> 
> Hmmm, this copying last phrase sounds interesting.  How long or short can the 
> phrase be?
> 
> Thanks for the tip!
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> I've set up a keyboard commander stroke to copy last phrase to clip board!
>> So I only have to press right option+C instead of vo+shift+C!
>> Also I sometimes have to use vo+l to read the line to get all the info!
>> But when you've copied it then you paste as normal!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 00:16, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> the problem is it depends on how the page was created.  sometimes I have to 
>>> copy the whole screen, then erase what i don't want in a text edit file and 
>>> then copy what i wanted.  good luck, max  
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all,
 
 Can you point me in the right direction to learn how to better copy text 
 while in Safari?
 
 I thought I had a pretty good hang of this, but sometimes I can't get any 
 of the methods I know to work.  I was on my banking site on the Mac today, 
 for the first time, and I wanted to copy the confirmation number, to paste 
 it into Bean.
 
 Any help/guidance is appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
 Sent by Macbook Air Mail
 
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Chris Blouch]

Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that 
way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I 
guess that's no different than most cable boxes.


CB

On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart 
guides set up.  You have to interact with the unknowns but it is 
doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, but it can work.


Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com 
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
recordings is not accessible.


On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:


On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

Hi,

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software 
available.  I think there used to be another one, but I can't 
remember it's name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato 
systems, and is almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live 
TV, and you can with some mucking around set up the preferences 
etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you can't record 
shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full 
series only individual episodes--very annoying!


We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you 
can live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can 
record something, the files are playable from finder.  And 
furthermore if you "show package contents" on one of the files, you 
can have it export to .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.


Vaughn.
On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


Hello,
Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite 
or cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this 
with Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if 
there’s any way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner 
cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure of the accessibility 
of said software that’s included with the cards, and don’t want to 
spend the money only to find out the software’s not accessible 
with VoiceOver.

Any help would be appreciated.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email 
tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email 
tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels and everything.

--
website:
http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
personal email:
hanksm...@hanksmith.net
facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
hank.smith966
Amateur radio call sign:
ke7ief
check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
also you can find my youtube channel at:
http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You

Re: accessible youtube to mp3 converter

[Esther]

Hi Gerry,

I'm still running Snow Leopard on my Mac, but if you want to try a web
site that converts to mp3, you might try dirpy:
http://dirpy.com/
You can either paste in the URL of a YouTube video into the text box,
or type in search terms to locate a video for conversion at the
YouTube site. One of the nice features of this site is that you can
both choose conversion formats and input MP3 tags (or use default
values filled in from the YouTube information.)  The only thing that's
disconcerting about the process is that the conversion happens very
fast and automatically downloads without notification.  Just keep your
Safari downloads window open (by either choosing "Downloads" under the
"Window" menu of the Safari menu bar, or else by using the Command-
Option-L shortcut for this).  Then you can switch application windows
with Command-accent to check for the downloaded file.

HTH.  This was one of a number of posts I sent yesterday that didn't
seem to make it out through mail, so I'm reposing from the web site.

Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 4, 4:10 am, "Kestrell"  wrote:
> Here is the online converter which I use, but it won't convert any video 
> which is longer than 20 minutes.
>
> http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
>
> Kestrell
>
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Jessica
>   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:41 AM
>   Subject: Re: accessible youtube to mp3 converter
>
>   I actually was wondering the same thing.
>     - Original Message -
>     From: Gerry Cook
>     To: Macvisionaries List
>     Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 9:41 PM
>     Subject: accessible youtube to mp3 converter
>
>     hi everyone can anybody tell me an accessible youtube to mp3 converter 
> for lion. I've tried fastest youtube to mp3 converter, but its not 
> accessible. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>     Gerry Cook
>     cheers gerry
>     gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>
>     --
>     You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
>     To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>     To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>     For more options, visit this group 
> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>
>   --
>   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
>   To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>   For more options, visit this group 
> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not accessible is
the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any given moment?

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess
that's no different than most cable boxes.

CB

On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote: 

You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at
first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You
have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No,
but it can work.


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:





You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is
not accessible. 

 

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:





On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: 

Hi, 

 

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I
think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and
therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app
for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a
full series only individual episodes--very annoying!

 

We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live
with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something,
the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package
contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it
with iTunes, or vlc.

 

Vaughn.

On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:





Hello, 

  

Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
box to watch live TV from their provider? I've done this with Windows Media
Center with great success, but wondered if there's any way to do it with
Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I'm not sure
of the accessibility of said software that's included with the cards, and
don't want to spend the money only to find out the software's not accessible
with VoiceOver. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

  

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels and everything.




-- 
website:
http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
personal email:
hanksm...@hanksmith.net
facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
hank.smith966
Amateur radio call sign:
ke7ief
check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
also you can find my youtube channel at:
http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

 

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Randy Stegall]

That remote window kept getting my way so I closed it.  I think that one can 
use the Apple remote control but I haven't tried it yet.  I use the tab key to 
move through the unknowns and interact with each until I find the one I want.

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that way. 
> No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess that's 
> no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> 
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
>> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
>> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
>> but it can work.
>> 
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>> 
>>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
>>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
>>> not accessible.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>> 
 On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available. 
>  I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, 
> and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost 
> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some 
> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, 
> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the 
> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, 
> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
> 
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can 
> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record 
> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you 
> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to 
> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or 
>> cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with 
>> Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way 
>> to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, 
>> but I’m not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included 
>> with the cards, and don’t want to spend the money only to find out the 
>> software’s not accessible with VoiceOver.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>  
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
 it used to be voice over friendly.
 when did the non blind friendlyness change?
 you used to be able to change channels and everything.
 
 -- 
 website:
 http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
 personal email:
 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
 facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
 Klango:
 hanksmith
 Skype:
 hank.smith966
 Amateur radio call sign:
 ke7ief
 check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
 also you can find my youtube channel at:
 http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group,

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Randy Stegall]

Command r starts recording.

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible is 
> the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a 
> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that way. 
> No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess that's 
> no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
> but it can work.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
> 
> 
> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
> not accessible.
>  
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I 
> think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and can't 
> find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost completely 
> inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some mucking around 
> set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you 
> can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
> connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full series only 
> individual episodes--very annoying!
>  
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
> with iTunes, or vlc.
>  
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable box 
> to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows Media 
> Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it with 
> Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure 
> of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the cards, and 
> don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s not accessible 
> with VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> it used to be voice over friendly.
> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
> 
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
> facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
> Klango:
> hanksmith
> Skype:
> hank.smith966
> Amateur radio call sign:
> ke7ief
> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
> also you can find my youtube channel at:
> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>  
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this 

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
regular basis.

I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

Command r starts recording.


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:





Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not accessible is
the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any given moment?

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess
that's no different than most cable boxes.

CB

On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:

You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at
first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You
have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No,
but it can work.


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:






You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is
not accessible.

 

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:






On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

Hi,

 

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I
think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and
therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app
for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a
full series only individual episodes--very annoying!

 

We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live
with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something,
the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package
contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it
with iTunes, or vlc.

 

Vaughn.

On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:






Hello,

 

Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
box to watch live TV from their provider? I've done this with Windows Media
Center with great success, but wondered if there's any way to do it with
Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I'm not sure
of the accessibility of said software that's included with the cards, and
don't want to spend the money only to find out the software's not accessible
with VoiceOver.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels and everything.





-- 
website:
http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
personal email:
hanksm...@hanksmith.net
facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
hank.smith966
Amateur radio call sign:
ke7ief
check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
also you can find my youtube channel at:
http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Mr. L. Alexander]

Hi,

I'd contacted the company last year about this and they told me at the time 
they weren't interested in adapting it. it meant adapting the program from the 
ground up.

It may be worth getting in touch with them again though and trying once more. I 
always believe in trying until it happens.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 16:48, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or 
> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a 
> regular basis.
> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the 
> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Command r starts recording.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible is 
> the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a 
> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that way. 
> No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess that's 
> no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
> but it can work.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
> not accessible.
>  
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I 
> think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and can't 
> find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost completely 
> inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some mucking around 
> set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you 
> can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
> connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full series only 
> individual episodes--very annoying!
>  
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
> with iTunes, or vlc.
>  
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable box 
> to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows Media 
> Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it with 
> Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure 
> of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the cards, and 
> don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s not accessible 
> with VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> it used to be voice over friendly.
> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmi

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Randy Stegall]

I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them about 
accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be interested 
and even motivated enough to do something about vo accessibility

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or 
> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a 
> regular basis.
> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the 
> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Command r starts recording.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible is 
> the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a 
> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that way. 
> No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess that's 
> no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
> but it can work.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
> not accessible.
>  
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I 
> think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and can't 
> find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost completely 
> inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some mucking around 
> set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you 
> can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
> connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full series only 
> individual episodes--very annoying!
>  
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
> with iTunes, or vlc.
>  
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable box 
> to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows Media 
> Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it with 
> Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure 
> of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the cards, and 
> don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s not accessible 
> with VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> it used to be voice over friendly.
> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
> facebook:
> h

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as
inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them
about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be
interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo accessibility


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:





Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
regular basis.

I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

Command r starts recording.


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:






Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not accessible is
the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any given moment?

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

 

Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess
that's no different than most cable boxes.

CB

On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:

You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at
first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You
have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No,
but it can work.


Randy Stegall

kc4...@aol.com

Sent from my Mac Mini.

 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:







You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is
not accessible.

 

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:







On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

Hi,

 

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I
think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and
therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app
for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a
full series only individual episodes--very annoying!

 

We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live
with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something,
the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package
contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it
with iTunes, or vlc.

 

Vaughn.

On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:







Hello,

 

Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
box to watch live TV from their provider? I've done this with Windows Media
Center with great success, but wondered if there's any way to do it with
Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I'm not sure
of the accessibility of said software that's included with the cards, and
don't want to spend the money only to find out the software's not accessible
with VoiceOver.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Mr. L. Alexander]

a thought on this.

If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access and if 
anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their permissions to 
support your contact to the developer. this would give extra weight to the 
case. they can contact each person if they wish for feedback or join in on this 
list to learn from us.

just a thought. it's what I'd do.

lew


On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:

> I’m contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as 
> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them 
> about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be 
> interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo accessibility
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or 
> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a 
> regular basis.
> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the 
> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Command r starts recording.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible is 
> the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a 
> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>  
> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that way. 
> No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess that's 
> no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
> but it can work.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>  
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
> not accessible.
>  
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.  I 
> think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and can't 
> find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost completely 
> inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some mucking around 
> set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you 
> can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
> connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full series only 
> individual episodes--very annoying!
>  
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can live 
> with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record something, 
> the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you "show package 
> contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to .m4v and play it 
> with iTunes, or vlc.
>  
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable box 
> to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows Media 
> Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it with 
> Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure 
> of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the cards, and 
> don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s not accessible 
> with VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
>  
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups

Re: Reading Chat History in Adium

[Jessica]

Ok, do you have msn?  I haven't had any luck signing into either/or, so 
don't know what to make of that.  When I try to sign into msn, it just asks 
like I didn't enter my password correctly, and the same with fb, only with 
that, if it happens too many times, it then takes me to a varification page 
which wants me to do the captcha, and won't play the audio captcha for some 
strange reason.
- Original Message - 
From: "Deb Lewis" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Reading Chat History in Adium


I don't have AIM so can't comment on that. someone else asked me about FB 
and signing in so I've agreed to try that and see what happens.
Meanwhile, I've answered my own question about the chat history quite by 
accident.



On Dec 6, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Jessica wrote:

Can we chat off list?  I'm still a new Atium user, and am having a hard 
time setting it up, so could use some pointers.
I can get it to sign me onto Aim, but have put in my password for fb and 
msn multiple times and it refuses to sign in, and apparently thinks it's 
incorrect.

- Original Message - From: "Deb Lewis" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:59 PM
Subject: Reading Chat History in Adium


Hi:
I'm using Adium to participate in IRC. It's all going very well except 
that occasionally I need to review the chat history. I've looked 
everywhere to find it and through all the menus. Any pointers on how to go 
about this, if it's possible, are much appreciated. TIA.


Deb

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.




--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Jim Fettgather]

I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the
good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging
El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.

On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
> a thought on this.
>
> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access and
> if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their permissions to
> support your contact to the developer. this would give extra weight to the
> case. they can contact each person if they wish for feedback or join in on
> this list to learn from us.
>
> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>
> lew
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>
>> I’m contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as
>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them
>> about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be
>> interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo
>> accessibility
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
>> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
>> regular basis.
>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
>> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Command r starts recording.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible
>> is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
>> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
>> way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I
>> guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe
>> at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.
>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?
>>  No, but it can work.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings
>> is not accessible.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide,
>> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the
>> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way,
>> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>>
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can
>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record
>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you
>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to
>> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>>
>> Vaughn.
>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
>> box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows
>> Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it
>> with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m
>> not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the
>> cards, and don’t want to spend th

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Goodin, Donna]

Hi all,

Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, I hate 
how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might be an interesting 
option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  But I'm confused about one 
thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve hardware?
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:

> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the
> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging
> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
> 
> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
>> a thought on this.
>> 
>> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access and
>> if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their permissions to
>> support your contact to the developer. this would give extra weight to the
>> case. they can contact each person if they wish for feedback or join in on
>> this list to learn from us.
>> 
>> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> I’m contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as
>>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them
>>> about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be
>>> interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo
>>> accessibility
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
>>> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
>>> regular basis.
>>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
>>> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Command r starts recording.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible
>>> is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
>>> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
>>> way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I
>>> guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe
>>> at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.
>>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?
>>> No, but it can work.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
>>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings
>>> is not accessible.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
>>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
>>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
>>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide,
>>> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the
>>> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way,
>>> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>>> 
>>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can
>>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record
>>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you
>>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to
>>> .m4v and p

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

So the iPhone app is more accessible than the mac software? I really don't
want to spend money on a product from them if I can't at least do basic
functions. I'm not so much concerned with the guide since apparently you can
set up smart guides, which is what I'd want to do anyway.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the good
accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging El Gato
Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.

On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
> a thought on this.
>
> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access 
> and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their 
> permissions to support your contact to the developer. this would give 
> extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if they wish 
> for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
>
> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>
> lew
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>
>> I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as 
>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
>> them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato 
>> might be interested and even motivated enough to do something about 
>> vo accessibility
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
>> suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible 
>> enough to use it on a regular basis.
>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
>> to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Command r starts recording.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
>> accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
>> effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any given
moment?
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
>> that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on 
>> but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
>> believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides
set up.
>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity
perfect?
>>  No, but it can work.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
>> or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
>> recordings is not accessible.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, 
>> and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is 
>> almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can 
>> with some mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't 
>> use the guide, and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can 
>> however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and 
>> record shows that way, but not a full series only individual
episodes--very annoying!
>>
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you 
>> can live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can 
>> record something, the files are playable from finder.  And 
>> furthermore if you "show package contents" on one of the files, you 

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Donna,

It's an app, but it requires hardware as well. I'm currently looking into a
solution with Eye TV, but am on the fence currently.
As far as watching TV on my actual TV, I loved having a somewhat accessible
guide with windows Media center, which is why I wanted to find a similar
solution on the mac.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

Hi all,

Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, I hate
how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might be an
interesting option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  But I'm
confused about one thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve hardware?
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:

> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the 
> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging 
> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
> 
> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
>> a thought on this.
>> 
>> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac 
>> access and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant 
>> their permissions to support your contact to the developer. this 
>> would give extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if 
>> they wish for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
>> 
>> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just 
>>> as inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
>>> them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato 
>>> might be interested and even motivated enough to do something about 
>>> vo accessibility
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
>>> suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible 
>>> enough to use it on a regular basis.
>>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
>>> to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Command r starts recording.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
>>> accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
>>> effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any
given moment?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
>>> that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on 
>>> but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
>>> believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart
guides set up.
>>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity
perfect?
>>> No, but it can work.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
>>> or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
>>> recordings is not accessible.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software
available.
>>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's 
>>> name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and 
>>> is almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you 
>>> can with some mucking around set up 

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Goodin, Donna]

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the explanation.  I avoid using Windows whenever possible, so was 
hoping this might be an alternative.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> It's an app, but it requires hardware as well. I'm currently looking into a
> solution with Eye TV, but am on the fence currently.
> As far as watching TV on my actual TV, I loved having a somewhat accessible
> guide with windows Media center, which is why I wanted to find a similar
> solution on the mac.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:21 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, I hate
> how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might be an
> interesting option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  But I'm
> confused about one thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve hardware?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
> 
>> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the 
>> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging 
>> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
>> 
>> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
>>> a thought on this.
>>> 
>>> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac 
>>> access and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant 
>>> their permissions to support your contact to the developer. this 
>>> would give extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if 
>>> they wish for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
>>> 
>>> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>>> 
>>> lew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just 
 as inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
 them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato 
 might be interested and even motivated enough to do something about 
 vo accessibility
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 
 Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
 suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible 
 enough to use it on a regular basis.
 I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
 to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 Command r starts recording.
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
 accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
 effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any
> given moment?
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
 that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on 
 but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
 
 CB
 
 On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
 You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
 believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart
> guides set up.
 You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity
> perfect?
 No, but it can work.
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
 
 
 
 
 You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
 or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
 recordings is not accessible.
 
 On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennis

RE: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

You're welcome. Unfortunately, a truly accessible television isn't a reality
yet, but if the rumors and speculation I'm hearing are true, that could
change sooner than we think.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the explanation.  I avoid using Windows whenever possible, so was
hoping this might be an alternative.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> It's an app, but it requires hardware as well. I'm currently looking 
> into a solution with Eye TV, but am on the fence currently.
> As far as watching TV on my actual TV, I loved having a somewhat 
> accessible guide with windows Media center, which is why I wanted to 
> find a similar solution on the mac.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:21 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, 
> I hate how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might 
> be an interesting option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  
> But I'm confused about one thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve
hardware?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
> 
>> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the 
>> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging 
>> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
>> 
>> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
>>> a thought on this.
>>> 
>>> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac 
>>> access and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant 
>>> their permissions to support your contact to the developer. this 
>>> would give extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if 
>>> they wish for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
>>> 
>>> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>>> 
>>> lew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just 
 as inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
 them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it 
 Elgato might be interested and even motivated enough to do 
 something about vo accessibility
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 
 Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
 suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is 
 accessible enough to use it on a regular basis.
 I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
 to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 Command r starts recording.
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
 accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
 effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any
> given moment?
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
 
 Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
 that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're 
 on but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
 
 CB
 
 On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
 You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
 believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart
> guides set up.
 You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity
> perfect?
 No, but it can work.
 
 Randy S

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Chris Blouch]

I was referring to a physical remote that came bundled with the HD USB 
tuner and eyeTV. Uses infrared to a receiver built into the USB thingy 
which sometimes makes it awkward to use.


http://support.elgato.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=2709

CB

On 12/6/11 11:42 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
That remote window kept getting my way so I closed it.  I think that 
one can use the Apple remote control but I haven't tried it yet.  I 
use the tab key to move through the unknowns and interact with each 
until I find the one I want.


Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com 
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on 
but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.


CB

On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart 
guides set up.  You have to interact with the unknowns but it is 
doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, but it can work.


Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com 
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
recordings is not accessible.


On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:


On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

Hi,

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software 
available.  I think there used to be another one, but I can't 
remember it's name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from 
Elgato systems, and is almost completely inaccessible.  You can 
watch live TV, and you can with some mucking around set up the 
preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you 
can't record shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for 
IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but 
not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!


We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if 
you can live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you 
can record something, the files are playable from finder.  And 
furthermore if you "show package contents" on one of the files, 
you can have it export to .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.


Vaughn.
On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


Hello,
Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite 
or cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done 
this with Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered 
if there’s any way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner 
cards that are compatible, but I’m not sure of the accessibility 
of said software that’s included with the cards, and don’t want 
to spend the money only to find out the software’s not 
accessible with VoiceOver.

Any help would be appreciated.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the 
Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email 
tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email 
tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the 
Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels and everything.

--
website:
http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
personal email:
hanksm...@hanksmith.net
facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
hank.smith966
Amateur radio call sign:
ke7ief
check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
also you can find my youtube channel at:
http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send ema

Re: changing the language spelling

[Ioana Gandrabur]

As far as I thought, if you change keyboard layout it switches, assuming you 
have that language spelling info available. Not 100$% sure so don't quite take 
my word for it.

Best,

Ioana
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Rachel Magario wrote:

> This question is for Anne, but anyone who might know the answer, please!
> How do I do automatic spell check for a different languages. Sometimes when I 
> am in mail I need to answer email in different languages, but it keeps spell 
> checking in english. Help lease.
> Rachel.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Mr. L. Alexander]

quite a few of the products (elgato) are straight forward using the cursor 
keys. I used to have one of the TV mini's and it was a decent bit of kit. loved 
it but as I don't  travel and have a fairly accessible hard drive recorder, etc 
I don't have any need. but I'd be happy to help anyone and support anyone with 
contact with elgato.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 18:55, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I was referring to a physical remote that came bundled with the HD USB tuner 
> and eyeTV. Uses infrared to a receiver built into the USB thingy which 
> sometimes makes it awkward to use.
> 
> http://support.elgato.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=2709
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 11:42 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> 
>> That remote window kept getting my way so I closed it.  I think that one can 
>> use the Apple remote control but I haven't tried it yet.  I use the tab key 
>> to move through the unknowns and interact with each until I find the one I 
>> want.
>> 
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that 
>>> way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I guess 
>>> that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
 
 You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe 
 at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  
 You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect? 
  No, but it can work.
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
 
> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings 
> is not accessible.
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software 
>>> available.  I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember 
>>> it's name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and 
>>> is almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can 
>>> with some mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use 
>>> the guide, and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can 
>>> however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and 
>>> record shows that way, but not a full series only individual 
>>> episodes--very annoying!
>>> 
>>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can 
>>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record 
>>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you 
>>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to 
>>> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
  
 Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or 
 cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with 
 Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any 
 way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are 
 compatible, but I’m not sure of the accessibility of said software 
 that’s included with the cards, and don’t want to spend the money only 
 to find out the software’s not accessible with VoiceOver.
 Any help would be appreciated.
  
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> it used to be voice over friendly.
>> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
>> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
>> 
>> -- 
>> website:
>> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
>> personal email:
>> han

fastforward or jumping through audiobook in itunes possible?

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi,


Guess the subject kind of says it all.

Thanks,

Ioana

Sent from my iPhone

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

spelling command not always working for me.

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all,


Sometimes I am finished writing a mail message and press command coma to go to 
first misspelled word. VO says the highlighted word but pressing vo shift m 
does not do anything. Cannot always reproduse so do not know what causes this 
intermitent behavior. 

Anyone else noticed this?

Thanks,

Ioana
Sent from my iPhone

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Goodin, Donna]

Yeah, I've heard those rumors too, but I always take a wait and see attitude 
toward rumors. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You're welcome. Unfortunately, a truly accessible television isn't a reality
> yet, but if the rumors and speculation I'm hearing are true, that could
> change sooner than we think.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thanks for the explanation.  I avoid using Windows whenever possible, so was
> hoping this might be an alternative.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> It's an app, but it requires hardware as well. I'm currently looking 
>> into a solution with Eye TV, but am on the fence currently.
>> As far as watching TV on my actual TV, I loved having a somewhat 
>> accessible guide with windows Media center, which is why I wanted to 
>> find a similar solution on the mac.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:21 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, 
>> I hate how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might 
>> be an interesting option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  
>> But I'm confused about one thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve
> hardware?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>> 
>>> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the 
>>> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging 
>>> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
 a thought on this.
 
 If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac 
 access and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant 
 their permissions to support your contact to the developer. this 
 would give extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if 
 they wish for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
 
 just a thought. it's what I'd do.
 
 lew
 
 
 On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
> I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just 
> as inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
> them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it 
> Elgato might be interested and even motivated enough to do 
> something about vo accessibility
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
> 
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
> suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is 
> accessible enough to use it on a regular basis.
> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
> to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> Command r starts recording.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
> 
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
> accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
> effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any
>> given moment?
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
> 
> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
> that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're 
> on but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/6/11 9:15

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Red.Falcon]

Hi there!
Although it is not only on the Mac over here is a company [Sky] and there sat 
boxes do have accessible menus and channels and you can set things to record 
[but I think ] you have to do that online!
And I'm not sure if the Iphone app for them is vo friendly but if it is then 
you can also tell your box to record if you find out about a program when your 
not at home!
But maybe a Sky user can say more!
Colin

On 6 Dec 2011, at 19:34, Goodin, Donna wrote:

> Yeah, I've heard those rumours too, but I always take a wait and see attitude 
> toward rumours. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You're welcome. Unfortunately, a truly accessible television isn't a reality
>> yet, but if the rumours and speculation I'm hearing are true, that could
>> change sooner than we think.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:49 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> Thanks for the explanation.  I avoid using Windows whenever possible, so was
>> hoping this might be an alternative.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> It's an app, but it requires hardware as well. I'm currently looking 
>>> into a solution with Eye TV, but am on the fence currently.
>>> As far as watching TV on my actual TV, I loved having a somewhat 
>>> accessible guide with windows Media center, which is why I wanted to 
>>> find a similar solution on the mac.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:21 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, 
>>> I hate how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might 
>>> be an interesting option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  
>>> But I'm confused about one thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve
>> hardware?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>> 
 I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the 
 good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging 
 El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
 
 On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander  wrote:
> a thought on this.
> 
> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac 
> access and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant 
> their permissions to support your contact to the developer. this 
> would give extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if 
> they wish for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
> 
> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
> 
> lew
> 
> 
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just 
>> as inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>> 
>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
>> them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it 
>> Elgato might be interested and even motivated enough to do 
>> something about vo accessibility
>> 
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
>> suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is 
>> accessible enough to use it on a regular basis.
>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
>> to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>> 
>> Command r starts recording.
>> 
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
>> accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
>> effort? Is there 

Re: changing the language spelling

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rachel,

For me, the Mac detects the language without me having to do anything. In 
System Preferences, in the Language&Text pane, under Text, I have it set to 
Automatic by language.

Cheers,

Anne


On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:24, Rachel Magario wrote:

> This question is for Anne, but anyone who might know the answer, please!
> How do I do automatic spell check for a different languages. Sometimes when I 
> am in mail I need to answer email in different languages, but it keeps spell 
> checking in english. Help lease.
> Rachel.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Hank Smith]

Hello can't the unknown buttons and stuff be labeled with vo?
Hank
On 12/6/2011 7:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart 
guides set up.  You have to interact with the unknowns but it is 
doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, but it can work.


Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com 
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
recordings is not accessible.


On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:


On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

Hi,

I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software 
available.  I think there used to be another one, but I can't 
remember it's name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato 
systems, and is almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live 
TV, and you can with some mucking around set up the preferences 
etc, but you can't use the guide, and therefore you can't record 
shows easily.  You can however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which 
connects to your mac, and record shows that way, but not a full 
series only individual episodes--very annoying!


We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you 
can live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can 
record something, the files are playable from finder.  And 
furthermore if you "show package contents" on one of the files, you 
can have it export to .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.


Vaughn.
On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


Hello,
Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite 
or cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I've done this 
with Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if 
there's any way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner 
cards that are compatible, but I'm not sure of the accessibility 
of said software that's included with the cards, and don't want to 
spend the money only to find out the software's not accessible 
with VoiceOver.

Any help would be appreciated.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email 
tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email 
tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

it used to be voice over friendly.
when did the non blind friendlyness change?
you used to be able to change channels and everything.

--
website:
http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
personal email:
hanksm...@hanksmith.net  
facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
hank.smith966
Amateur radio call sign:
ke7ief
check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
also you can find my youtube channel at:
http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.



--
we

Re: fastforward or jumping through audiobook in itunes possible?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If it is a properly marked AudioBook, you can do the Next/Previous Chapter by 
pressing cmd-control-shift right or left arrow.  You could also move forward 
quicker by pressing cmd-option-right arrow.  There is also a script available 
on my somewhat old web-site at:

http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html

It is in the iTunes area and you'll need to read the basic instructions at the 
top of the page that tell you how to save scripts for use by applications.  You 
can even set a keyboard shortcut to work with the script if you're so inclined 
and know the process.

Later...

On 2011-12-06, at 12:05 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Guess the subject kind of says it all.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: changing the language spelling

[Rachel Magario]

Thanks Anne. Idid that, but it does not seem to work!
Do you change your keyboard layout when you start writing in a different 
language? Cause I usually just leave it on my us english keyboard.
I don't know how to change the key board lay out in the fly on the macbook only 
on the iPhone and have not gone explore to investigate how.
Thanks again!
Rachel.
On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Rachel,
> 
> For me, the Mac detects the language without me having to do anything. In 
> System Preferences, in the Language&Text pane, under Text, I have it set to 
> Automatic by language.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:24, Rachel Magario wrote:
> 
>> This question is for Anne, but anyone who might know the answer, please!
>> How do I do automatic spell check for a different languages. Sometimes when 
>> I am in mail I need to answer email in different languages, but it keeps 
>> spell checking in english. Help lease.
>> Rachel.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Randy Stegall]

I tried doing that and the unknowns aren't buttons.  If you use the tab key you 
will hear, Action button pop up button.  Tab again and you will hear unknown.  
Interact and vo down arrow and you will hear, LIBRARY radio button.  These 
radio buttons act much like the iTunes sidebar with its playlists.  Tabbing 
again will take you to the library recording list of shows that vo calls 
buttons,  Hth.

Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

> Hello can't the unknown buttons and stuff be labeled with vo?
> Hank
> On 12/6/2011 7:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> 
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe at 
>> first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  You 
>> have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  No, 
>> but it can work.
>> 
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>> 
>>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
>>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings is 
>>> not accessible.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>> 
 On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available. 
>  I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, 
> and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost 
> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some 
> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide, 
> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the 
> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way, 
> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
> 
> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can 
> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record 
> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you 
> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to 
> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or 
>> cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with 
>> Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way 
>> to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, 
>> but I’m not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included 
>> with the cards, and don’t want to spend the money only to find out the 
>> software’s not accessible with VoiceOver.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>  
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
 it used to be voice over friendly.
 when did the non blind friendlyness change?
 you used to be able to change channels and everything.
 
 -- 
 website:
 http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
 personal email:
 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
 facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
 Klango:
 hanksmith
 Skype:
 hank.smith966
 Amateur radio call sign:
 ke7ief
 check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
 also you can find my youtube channel at:
 http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.

Re: fastforward or jumping through audiobook in itunes possible?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

the control you added to skip to previous or next chapters is not necessary.  
Just command shift left or right arrow will do the trick.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If it is a properly marked AudioBook, you can do the Next/Previous Chapter by 
> pressing cmd-control-shift right or left arrow.  You could also move forward 
> quicker by pressing cmd-option-right arrow.  There is also a script available 
> on my somewhat old web-site at:
> 
> http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
> 
> It is in the iTunes area and you'll need to read the basic instructions at 
> the top of the page that tell you how to save scripts for use by 
> applications.  You can even set a keyboard shortcut to work with the script 
> if you're so inclined and know the process.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2011-12-06, at 12:05 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> Guess the subject kind of says it all.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Blog Talk Radio Accessibility

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi,

I created a station on blogtalkradio.com. However, I've found that parts of it 
are inaccessible.

For one, it seems impossible to upload files, since it uses some sort of flash 
uploader. Secondly, I have several problems in the "studio," to control the 
show. It's hard to put callers live or mute them, or to play audio files, etc.

Has anyone used Blog Talk Radio? Do you have any suggestions for using it 
better?

Thanks,
Brandon

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Question about iPads

[Gigi]

Hi guys.
I have a question about iPads and braille displays. I thought I had this 
straight, but then I figured that maybe I had something wrong here.

If you get the latest iPad there is, do you have to have a Bluetooth display, 
or can you run one from USB? I thought iPads didn't have USB ports, but then 
somebody told me they had one. 

I thought I was out of the woods with my PacMate when Freedom Scientific sent 
back my braille display. Now the PacMate itself is giving me trouble; it may 
just be a simple matter of replacing the battery. However, it keeps giving 
itself cold resets when it shouldn't, so it might be something worse. 

Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Question about iPads

[Alex Hall]

There is no USB port on the iPad 2, only bluetooth displays will work.
Maybe you heard a rumor that the iPad 3, supposedly scheduled for
release next year, will have a USB port? I haven't heard that one, but
we know little about it and people are speculating everything.

On 12/6/11, Gigi  wrote:
> Hi guys.
> I have a question about iPads and braille displays. I thought I had this
> straight, but then I figured that maybe I had something wrong here.
>
> If you get the latest iPad there is, do you have to have a Bluetooth
> display, or can you run one from USB? I thought iPads didn't have USB ports,
> but then somebody told me they had one.
>
> I thought I was out of the woods with my PacMate when Freedom Scientific
> sent back my braille display. Now the PacMate itself is giving me trouble;
> it may just be a simple matter of replacing the battery. However, it keeps
> giving itself cold resets when it shouldn't, so it might be something worse.
>
> Regards,
> Gigi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>
>


-- 
Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

thanks for help with word count script and for Sparks

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

I just used Sparks to solve an issue which has been bothering me now for a 
little while.  

Download Spark for Mac - Hotkey shortcuts manager. MacUpdate.com

Just wondered what others of y'all thought of it.  You may recall that, back a 
week or two ago, I was fussing with the Word Count script and what stopped me 
was I couldn't set up a hot key in Text Edit Because of the fact that the 
option key was taken up with every other key on the keyboard for some special 
symble or other.  However, with the use of Sparks, I was able to set 
Option+Command+w and now, hey, no trouble at all.

Thanks to all who helped in this matter, encluding Estar who suggested the 
possibility of a permitions issue; whichth turned out to be accurate.  thanks 
also to collen who suggested Sparks as a method for solving the hot key delima. 
 Also, many thanks to the individual who actually sent along the script and 
gave instructions how to save it.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: ringtone creation on the Mac.

[Traci]

Hey Ricardo thanks for that.

Do you discuss editing an existing mp3 or m4a, into a ringtone?

Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail

On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Your in luck.  lol.  I did such a podcast.  Go to www.mobileaccess.org and 
> type garageband into the search field.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Traci wrote:
> 
>> I know how to do this on iTunes, however I'd love to find a podcast 
>> explaining it in Garage Band.
>> 
>> Nothing too fancy, simply taking a song, editing it to the desired portion, 
>> then saving a ringtone.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: ringtone creation on the Mac.
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> you can use iTunes or garageband.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all.
 I'm just wondering how one could go about creating a ringtone on the Mac?
 I've listened to the podcast on BCT but the markers wouldn't drop where I 
 wanted them too in amadeus pro.
 The only one I made took a combination of GoldWave on my windows VM and 
 amadeus to convert it in to m4r format.
 Any thoughts / alternatives?
 Thanks all and have an awesome weekend.
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: ringtone creation on the Mac.

[Ricardo Walker]

Yes.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Traci wrote:

> Hey Ricardo thanks for that.
> 
> Do you discuss editing an existing mp3 or m4a, into a ringtone?
> 
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Your in luck.  lol.  I did such a podcast.  Go to www.mobileaccess.org and 
>> type garageband into the search field.  
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Traci wrote:
>> 
>>> I know how to do this on iTunes, however I'd love to find a podcast 
>>> explaining it in Garage Band.
>>> 
>>> Nothing too fancy, simply taking a song, editing it to the desired portion, 
>>> then saving a ringtone.
>>> 
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ringtone creation on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 you can use iTunes or garageband.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hey all.
> I'm just wondering how one could go about creating a ringtone on the Mac?
> I've listened to the podcast on BCT but the markers wouldn't drop where I 
> wanted them too in amadeus pro.
> The only one I made took a combination of GoldWave on my windows VM and 
> amadeus to convert it in to m4r format.
> Any thoughts / alternatives?
> Thanks all and have an awesome weekend.
> Matthew Campbell.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> 
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi 

Can you please explain what a smart guide is and what they let you do

Thanks
Garth 

Sent from my iPhone

On 07/12/2011, at 11:43 AM, Randy Stegall  wrote:

> I tried doing that and the unknowns aren't buttons.  If you use the tab key 
> you will hear, Action button pop up button.  Tab again and you will hear 
> unknown.  Interact and vo down arrow and you will hear, LIBRARY radio button. 
>  These radio buttons act much like the iTunes sidebar with its playlists.  
> Tabbing again will take you to the library recording list of shows that vo 
> calls buttons,  Hth.
> 
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> Sent from my Mac Mini.
> 
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hello can't the unknown buttons and stuff be labeled with vo?
>> Hank
>> On 12/6/2011 7:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe 
>>> at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.  
>>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?  
>>> No, but it can work.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>> 
 You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or 
 through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings 
 is not accessible.
 
 On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
 
> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software 
>> available.  I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember 
>> it's name, and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and 
>> is almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can 
>> with some mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use 
>> the guide, and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however 
>> use the EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows 
>> that way, but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>> 
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can 
>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record 
>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you 
>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to 
>> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or 
>>> cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with 
>>> Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any 
>>> way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are 
>>> compatible, but I’m not sure of the accessibility of said software 
>>> that’s included with the cards, and don’t want to spend the money only 
>>> to find out the software’s not accessible with VoiceOver.
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at 
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
> it used to be voice over friendly.
> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
> 
> -- 
> website:
> http://fivedollarfreedomplan.com/throwawaymoneylcphs5.html
> personal email:
> hanksm...@hanksmith.net
> facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
> Klango:
> hanksmith
> Skype:
> hank.smith966
> Amateur radio call sign:
> ke7ief
> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A
> also you can find my youtube channel at:
> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send