Hi all,

Though mostly I agree with Ricardo that I'd rather watch TV on my TV, I hate 
how inaccessible Charter is.  So an thinking that EyeTV might be an interesting 
option, at least when I'm watching TV by myself.  But I'm confused about one 
thing.  Is this an app, or does it also involve hardware?
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:

> I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the
> good accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging
> El Gato Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.
> 
> On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander <turningbyto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> a thought on this.
>> 
>> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access and
>> if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their permissions to
>> support your contact to the developer. this would give extra weight to the
>> case. they can contact each person if they wish for feedback or join in on
>> this list to learn from us.
>> 
>> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> I’m contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as
>>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with them
>>> about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato might be
>>> interested and even motivated enough to do something about vo
>>> accessibility
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility suggestions? Or
>>> would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible enough to use it on a
>>> regular basis.
>>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch to the
>>> mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Command r starts recording.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that’s’ not accessible
>>> is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some effort? Is there a
>>> hotkey to record whatever you’re watching at any given moment?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions that
>>> way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on but I
>>> guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may believe
>>> at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides set up.
>>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity  perfect?
>>> No, but it can work.
>>> 
>>> Randy Stegall
>>> kc4...@aol.com
>>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys or
>>> through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up recordings
>>> is not accessible.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, and
>>> can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is almost
>>> completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can with some
>>> mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't use the guide,
>>> and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can however use the
>>> EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and record shows that way,
>>> but not a full series only individual episodes--very annoying!
>>> 
>>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you can
>>> live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can record
>>> something, the files are playable from finder.  And furthermore if you
>>> "show package contents" on one of the files, you can have it export to
>>> .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or cable
>>> box to watch live TV from their provider? I’ve done this with Windows
>>> Media Center with great success, but wondered if there’s any way to do it
>>> with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are compatible, but I’m
>>> not sure of the accessibility of said software that’s included with the
>>> cards, and don’t want to spend the money only to find out the software’s
>>> not accessible with VoiceOver.
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
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>>> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
>>> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
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