So the iPhone app is more accessible than the mac software? I really don't
want to spend money on a product from them if I can't at least do basic
functions. I'm not so much concerned with the guide since apparently you can
set up smart guides, which is what I'd want to do anyway.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.

I really enjoy using the Eye TV app with the iPhone because of the good
accessibility in IOS 5, but I will sure be happy in encouraging El Gato
Systems to consider accessibility in an upcoming release.

On 12/6/11, Mr. L. Alexander <turningbyto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a thought on this.
>
> If anyone is going to contact the developers, point them to mac access 
> and if anything, compile a list of names of those who grant their 
> permissions to support your contact to the developer. this would give 
> extra weight to the case. they can contact each person if they wish 
> for feedback or join in on this list to learn from us.
>
> just a thought. it's what I'd do.
>
> lew
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:47, Daniel Miller wrote:
>
>> I'm contacting them about it now, actually. Is the iPhone app just as 
>> inaccessible? Or is that more accessible than the mac software.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> I use eye tv everyday and I do think that if more of us talked with 
>> them about accessibility and show that there is demand for it Elgato 
>> might be interested and even motivated enough to do something about 
>> vo accessibility
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> Awesome. I wonder if Elgato would be open to accessibility 
>> suggestions? Or would you say minus the guide, the app is accessible 
>> enough to use it on a regular basis.
>> I really want to get rid of this Winblows box and completely switch 
>> to the mac, but watching TV was my last hurdle to jump over.
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stegall
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Command r starts recording.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the input, guys. So the only thing that's' not 
>> accessible is the guide, yet you can set up smart guides with some 
>> effort? Is there a hotkey to record whatever you're watching at any given
moment?
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:35 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Watching live TV on a Mac.
>>
>> Eye TV comes with a remote control which lets you do some functions 
>> that way. No feedback from VO to let you know what channel you're on 
>> but I guess that's no different than most cable boxes.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 12/6/11 9:15 AM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>> You can set smart guides so eye tv is not a total loss as one may 
>> believe at first.  It takes just a bit of effort.  I have 22 smart guides
set up.
>> You have to interact with the unknowns but it is doable.  Is ity
perfect?
>>  No, but it can work.
>>
>> Randy Stegall
>> kc4...@aol.com
>> Sent from my Mac Mini.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can easily change channels, volume, and much more with hot keys 
>> or through the menu, but the built-in guide that lets you set up 
>> recordings is not accessible.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2011 4:46 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use eyetv, which from what I can gather is the only software available.
>> I think there used to be another one, but I can't remember it's name, 
>> and can't find it anyway.  EyeTV is from Elgato systems, and is 
>> almost completely inaccessible.  You can watch live TV, and you can 
>> with some mucking around set up the preferences etc, but you can't 
>> use the guide, and therefore you can't record shows easily.  You can 
>> however use the EyeTV app for IOS, which connects to your mac, and 
>> record shows that way, but not a full series only individual
episodes--very annoying!
>>
>> We've used it here for a year or so, and it seems to be OK, if you 
>> can live with the limitations.  The good thing is that if you can 
>> record something, the files are playable from finder.  And 
>> furthermore if you "show package contents" on one of the files, you 
>> can have it export to .m4v and play it with iTunes, or vlc.
>>
>> Vaughn.
>> On 06/12/2011, at 1:09 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with connecting their mac to a satellite or 
>> cable box to watch live TV from their provider? I've done this with 
>> Windows Media Center with great success, but wondered if there's any 
>> way to do it with Macs. I know there are TV tuner cards that are 
>> compatible, but I'm not sure of the accessibility of said software 
>> that's included with the cards, and don't want to spend the money 
>> only to find out the software's not accessible with VoiceOver.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
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>> when did the non blind friendlyness change?
>> you used to be able to change channels and everything.
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