date:20220526


  
  
Around Santa Clara Valley, and the peninsula around here, you
  can't swing a cat without hitting a Tesla. We've made a couple of
  trips over Pacheco Pass, and we have seen a couple dozen car
  haulers full of Teslas. We have cousins, and several friends with
  them, and I only know one guy who was not happy with his (a Model
  X). 

I don't think you will get a good deal with a used one, and
  getting a recent model will probably get you the mega-stamped rear
  frame/body component.


bp

On 5/26/2022 8:49 AM, Nate Burke wrote:


  
  We're by a UP Auto-Train yard.  The only think coming out of it
  right now is Tesla's.  Truck loads and Truck loads of Telsas.  I
  would say every time I'm on the thoughfare that feeds to it, I see
  between 3-4 auto haulers of Teslas heading for the toll road.  So
  they must be shipping alot.  
  
  Except for the one day where there was a whole line of Tesla's
  being driven.  No plates or tags, probably 10 of them, and a 15
  passenger van in the lead.  Someone must have needed a delivery
  and there were no trucks available.    I thought it was
  interesting that every single one of the drivers was talking on
  their cellphone (Holding up to their ear, and we're a handsfree
  state).  "Hey man, You'll never guess, I'm driving a Tesla, and
  getting paid for it!"
  
  On 5/25/2022 5:35 PM, Chuck McCown
via AF wrote:
  
  


  
Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K 
  375 mile range I think.  I really like the cruise
  control.  It does lane keeping so I really don’t see a use
  for an autopilot.  

  
 

  From: Cassidy
  B. Larson 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
  Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  
   

Which
  Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
   
  

  On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF

wrote:
   
  

  
Sorry, I started it.  
 
Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime
  and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis used to join in
  too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we
  do have the OT in the subject line so you can
  filter this kind of crap out.  
 
But yeah, I think we have all vented now,
  and trolled the guys that need trolling. 
  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic
  comments.  
 
So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next
  year’s lent.
 
BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th
  Leaf lease is coming due in July so I took the
  leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved
  it.  I loved the last 10 years of Leafs too
  but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  

  
 
  

  

  

  
   

  




  
  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

The only thing I can think of is extra careful wire dressing.  Perfect bundles 
etc.  Maybe blank plates that all match.  Color anodized aluminum blanks etc.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:13 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

Raspberry Pi with a small screen displaying traffic data your normally monitor 
for the network?

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:37 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

I’m setting up a live POP site that is also supposed to be for showing off when 
we give people a tour of our office.

Is there anything special you would do to make a 23” 2 post rack full of 
equipment look extra awesome?  Fancy lighting? Tie Die? Lipstick?  

Artistry is not my bailiwick.

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Carl Peterson

MN,  where decent DC fast charge options are extra sucky, but even planning
a trip from here to Upstate NY this summer it is pretty sketchy and you
really need to drill down and read comments on plugshare etc.  With a Tesla
you just punch in the destination and it plots out all the places you need
to charge along the way.
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Carl Peterson

And to completely change the topic, I think that subsidies for building
charging stations should be based on KWh delivered and not just a
subsidy to build a charging station.  With current subsidies you end up
with a bunch of 50KW DC "fast" charging stations that never get maintained
or used because they are pretty much a last resort kind of thing.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:36 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> MN,  where decent DC fast charge options are extra sucky, but even
> planning a trip from here to Upstate NY this summer it is pretty sketchy
> and you really need to drill down and read comments on plugshare etc.  With
> a Tesla you just punch in the destination and it plots out all the places
> you need to charge along the way.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Ryan Ray

Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
or customer in general?


On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>
> *From:* Robert
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which,
> after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three
> months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting
> into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now
> being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I
> think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are
> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
> the factories ramp up.
>
> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>
> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is is
> 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I
> still have the gas guzzling 911!
>
> Peace out.
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I
> think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really
> don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>
> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
> Sorry, I started it.
>
> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis
> used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the
> OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>
> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need
> trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>
> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>
> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July
> so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved
> the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

I am probably just gonna let it get delivered.  Wondering if I need AWD or the 
long range battery.  The only cross country trip I would be likely to make will 
take 4  charging stops with this cheaper battery.  

Adding about 2 hours to a 12 hour trip.  

The only difference between batts is about a half hour more charging time on 
that long trip.  Same number of stops.  
Maybe I will make the long distance trips, maybe not.  I wonder of supercharger 
use is still free?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:19 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Around Santa Clara Valley, and the peninsula around here, you can't swing a cat 
without hitting a Tesla. We've made a couple of trips over Pacheco Pass, and we 
have seen a couple dozen car haulers full of Teslas. We have cousins, and 
several friends with them, and I only know one guy who was not happy with his 
(a Model X). 


I don't think you will get a good deal with a used one, and getting a recent 
model will probably get you the mega-stamped rear frame/body component.



bp
On 5/26/2022 8:49 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

  We're by a UP Auto-Train yard.  The only think coming out of it right now is 
Tesla's.  Truck loads and Truck loads of Telsas.  I would say every time I'm on 
the thoughfare that feeds to it, I see between 3-4 auto haulers of Teslas 
heading for the toll road.  So they must be shipping alot.  

  Except for the one day where there was a whole line of Tesla's being driven.  
No plates or tags, probably 10 of them, and a 15 passenger van in the lead.  
Someone must have needed a delivery and there were no trucks available.I 
thought it was interesting that every single one of the drivers was talking on 
their cellphone (Holding up to their ear, and we're a handsfree state).  "Hey 
man, You'll never guess, I'm driving a Tesla, and getting paid for it!"


  On 5/25/2022 5:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I 
think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really 
don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?




  On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Sorry, I started it.  

  Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis 
used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the OT 
in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

  But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need 
trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

  So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

  BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July 
so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved the 
last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  



 



   



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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

I've had a Model 3 since September 2018 and loved it to death. So much so
that I ordered a Model S Long Range last June and just got it 2 weeks ago.
I traded in my M3 at Tesla and they gave me $47,100 for it with 71k miles
and nearly 4 years old. Less than a private sale but still good for
trade-in plus I saved an extra $3k on sales tax by trading. It's even more
luxurious, comfy, and faster than the M3. I ordered when it was $80k base
last June and it had 4 price increases of $5k each so the base is now $100k
for my car. I was locked in to my original $80k price thankfully but these
price increases sure help my resale value if I ever want to sell it.

My brother also ordered a M3 Long Range last year and took delivery in
March. He's in love with it too! Best cars we've ever driven. It's hard to
go back to a gas vehicle like my truck or if I drive my dad's 4-cylinder
Camry sometimes. Gas vehicles feel so slow and dead after driving EVs.

Tesla software is amazing and smooth to use. I have FSD Beta and it
continues to get better with every release. I have no doubt that Tesla will
have full autonomous driving figured out in the next 1-3 years. Their
supercharger network continues to grow at a rapid pace and I no longer have
any range anxiety.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:46 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Around Santa Clara Valley, and the peninsula around here, you can't swing
> a cat without hitting a Tesla. We've made a couple of trips over Pacheco
> Pass, and we have seen a couple dozen car haulers full of Teslas. We have
> cousins, and several friends with them, and I only know one guy who was not
> happy with his (a Model X).
>
> I don't think you will get a good deal with a used one, and getting a
> recent model will probably get you the mega-stamped rear frame/body
> component.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/26/2022 8:49 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> We're by a UP Auto-Train yard.  The only think coming out of it right now
> is Tesla's.  Truck loads and Truck loads of Telsas.  I would say every time
> I'm on the thoughfare that feeds to it, I see between 3-4 auto haulers of
> Teslas heading for the toll road.  So they must be shipping alot.
>
> Except for the one day where there was a whole line of Tesla's being
> driven.  No plates or tags, probably 10 of them, and a 15 passenger van in
> the lead.  Someone must have needed a delivery and there were no trucks
> available.I thought it was interesting that every single one of the
> drivers was talking on their cellphone (Holding up to their ear, and we're
> a handsfree state).  "Hey man, You'll never guess, I'm driving a Tesla, and
> getting paid for it!"
>
> On 5/25/2022 5:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I
> think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really
> don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>
> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
> Sorry, I started it.
>
> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis
> used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the
> OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>
> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need
> trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>
> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>
> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July
> so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved
> the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.  

From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a 
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty 
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or 
customer in general? 

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I have 
some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be the last 
car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

  From: Robert 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, after 
so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months ago! 
) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting into and out of 
the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now being replaced.   We 
have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think the full autopilot 
is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am 
seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this high.  $20K over 
our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in 
the next year or so as the factories ramp up.

  On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is is 
2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I still 
have the gas guzzling 911! 

Peace out.
  On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I 
think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really 
don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

  From: Cassidy B. Larson 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?

On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

Sorry, I started it.  

Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and 
Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have 
the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that 
need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in 
July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved 
the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

You got more on your trade in than I am paying for my new M3.  

From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

I've had a Model 3 since September 2018 and loved it to death. So much so that 
I ordered a Model S Long Range last June and just got it 2 weeks ago. I traded 
in my M3 at Tesla and they gave me $47,100 for it with 71k miles and nearly 4 
years old. Less than a private sale but still good for trade-in plus I saved an 
extra $3k on sales tax by trading. It's even more luxurious, comfy, and faster 
than the M3. I ordered when it was $80k base last June and it had 4 price 
increases of $5k each so the base is now $100k for my car. I was locked in to 
my original $80k price thankfully but these price increases sure help my resale 
value if I ever want to sell it. 

My brother also ordered a M3 Long Range last year and took delivery in March. 
He's in love with it too! Best cars we've ever driven. It's hard to go back to 
a gas vehicle like my truck or if I drive my dad's 4-cylinder Camry sometimes. 
Gas vehicles feel so slow and dead after driving EVs.

Tesla software is amazing and smooth to use. I have FSD Beta and it continues 
to get better with every release. I have no doubt that Tesla will have full 
autonomous driving figured out in the next 1-3 years. Their supercharger 
network continues to grow at a rapid pace and I no longer have any range 
anxiety.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:46 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

  Around Santa Clara Valley, and the peninsula around here, you can't swing a 
cat without hitting a Tesla. We've made a couple of trips over Pacheco Pass, 
and we have seen a couple dozen car haulers full of Teslas. We have cousins, 
and several friends with them, and I only know one guy who was not happy with 
his (a Model X). 

  I don't think you will get a good deal with a used one, and getting a recent 
model will probably get you the mega-stamped rear frame/body component.

bp
On 5/26/2022 8:49 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

We're by a UP Auto-Train yard.  The only think coming out of it right now 
is Tesla's.  Truck loads and Truck loads of Telsas.  I would say every time I'm 
on the thoughfare that feeds to it, I see between 3-4 auto haulers of Teslas 
heading for the toll road.  So they must be shipping alot.  

Except for the one day where there was a whole line of Tesla's being 
driven.  No plates or tags, probably 10 of them, and a 15 passenger van in the 
lead.  Someone must have needed a delivery and there were no trucks available.  
  I thought it was interesting that every single one of the drivers was talking 
on their cellphone (Holding up to their ear, and we're a handsfree state).  
"Hey man, You'll never guess, I'm driving a Tesla, and getting paid for it!"

On 5/25/2022 5:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I 
think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really 
don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

  From: Cassidy B. Larson 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?

On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

Sorry, I started it.  

Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and 
Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have 
the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that 
need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in 
July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved 
the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Ryan Ray

I owned a Model 3 for less than a week and returned it due to build quality
issues and phantom braking. I'm in a Q8 now.

You better not say anything bad about the company or the car or you'll
never get support.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>
> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
> company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
> or customer in general?
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
>> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
>> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>
>> *From:* Robert
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which,
>> after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three
>> months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting
>> into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now
>> being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I
>> think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are
>> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
>> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
>> the factories ramp up.
>>
>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is
>> is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I
>> still have the gas guzzling 911!
>>
>> Peace out.
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>
>> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I
>> think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really
>> don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>>
>> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I started it.
>>
>> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis
>> used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the
>> OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>>
>> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need
>> trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>>
>> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>>
>> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July
>> so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved
>> the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT


  
  
The LFP batteries do have an an advantage in that they are almost
  fire proof (or at least way less susceptible to overheating.).
  They can also be charged less judiciously.


bp

On 5/26/2022 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  I am probably just gonna let it get delivered.  Wondering
if I need AWD or the long range battery.  The only cross
country trip I would be likely to make will take 4  charging
stops with this cheaper battery.  
   
  Adding about 2 hours to a 12 hour trip.  
   
  The only difference between batts is about a half hour
more charging time on that long trip.  Same number of
stops.  
  Maybe I will make the long distance trips, maybe not.  I
wonder of supercharger use is still free?
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:19 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT
  

 
  
  
Around Santa Clara Valley, and the peninsula around here,
  you can't swing a cat without hitting a Tesla. We've made
  a couple of trips over Pacheco Pass, and we have seen a
  couple dozen car haulers full of Teslas. We have cousins,
  and several friends with them, and I only know one guy who
  was not happy with his (a Model X). 

I don't think you will get a good deal with a used one,
  and getting a recent model will probably get you the
  mega-stamped rear frame/body component.
 
bp

On 5/26/2022 8:49 AM, Nate
  Burke wrote:

We're by a UP Auto-Train yard.  The only think
  coming out of it right now is Tesla's.  Truck loads and
  Truck loads of Telsas.  I would say every time I'm on the
  thoughfare that feeds to it, I see between 3-4 auto
  haulers of Teslas heading for the toll road.  So they must
  be shipping alot.  
  
  Except for the one day where there was a whole line of
  Tesla's being driven.  No plates or tags, probably 10 of
  them, and a 15 passenger van in the lead.  Someone must
  have needed a delivery and there were no trucks
  available.    I thought it was interesting that every
  single one of the drivers was talking on their cellphone
  (Holding up to their ear, and we're a handsfree state). 
  "Hey man, You'll never guess, I'm driving a Tesla, and
  getting paid for it!"
  
  On 5/25/2022 5:35 PM, Chuck
McCown via AF wrote:
  
  

  
Model 3  They predict Sept to December
  delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I think.  I really
  like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so
  I really don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

  
 

  From: Cassidy B. Larson
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31
PM
  To: AnimalFarm
  Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  
   

Which Tesla did you go for? What
  are they saying for lead time?
   
  

  On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown
via AF 
wrote:
   
  

  
Sorry, I started it.  
 
Sometimes it is amusing to watch
  the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and
  Lewis used to join in too but they
  couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do
  have the OT in the subject line so you
  can filter this kind of crap out.  
 
But yeah, I think we have all
  vented now, and trolled

Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Ryan Ray

I'm itchin' for my F150 Lightning order. I really really want that vehicle.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:33 AM Ryan Ray  wrote:

> I owned a Model 3 for less than a week and returned it due to build
> quality issues and phantom braking. I'm in a Q8 now.
>
> You better not say anything bad about the company or the car or you'll
> never get support.
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>>
>> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
>> company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
>> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
>> or customer in general?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
>>> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
>>> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>
>>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which,
>>> after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three
>>> months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting
>>> into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now
>>> being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I
>>> think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are
>>> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
>>> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
>>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
>>> the factories ramp up.
>>>
>>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>>
>>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is
>>> is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I
>>> still have the gas guzzling 911!
>>>
>>> Peace out.
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I
>>> think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really
>>> don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>>>
>>> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>
>>> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, I started it.
>>>
>>> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and
>>> Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do
>>> have the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>>>
>>>
>>> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need
>>> trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>>>
>>> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>>>
>>> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in
>>> July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I
>>> loved the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of
>>> enjoyment.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT


  
  
Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for
  "reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high,
  followed relatively closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their
  components.
If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to
  do with niggling little things like door handles and retracting
  rear view mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing
  doors. There are also on-and-off issues with build quality (except
  for the ones made in China). They have been getting steadily
  better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect WRT
  fit and finish.


bp

On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  
   
  Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car
or company.  
  

   
  
From: Ryan
Ray 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT
  

 
  
  
Are you not concerned at all regarding build
  quality or longevity with a company that hasn't been
  forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
  experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their
  customer service or customer in general?
   

 

  On Wed, May 25, 2022 at
5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
  
  

  

  I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe
try to buy a used one... I have some time to
cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This
might be the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do
want the new one?   
  

   
  
From: Robert 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022
  6:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT
  

 
  
  We will be coming
  on the end of our Model 3 lease in September,
  which, after so many delivery date changes (
  one of which would have been three months ago!
  ) corresponds to the delivery date of the
  Model Y.   Getting into and out of the 3 was
  just too much for these knees, which are now
  being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all
  of the Model 3 features and I think the full
  autopilot is just another Musk Troll that
  fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am
  seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices
  for used stay this high.  $20K over our price
  would be hard to refuse, with the likely
  reduction in lead times in the next year or so
  as the factories ramp up.

On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

Glad that shit
is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla,
our Model Y is is 2 years old today and its
been a great experience. The wife’s car and
I still have the gas guzzling 911!
   
  Peace out.
  

  On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck
McCown via AF 
wrote:
   
  

  

  Model 3  They predict Sept to
December delivery.  $46K  375
mile range I think.  I really
like the cruise control.  It
does lane keeping so I really
don’t see

Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

2022-05-26 Thread dmmoffett

That's not crazy.  

From: AF  On Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

Raspberry Pi with a small screen displaying traffic data your normally
monitor for the network?

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com  

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:37 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] "Show and Tell" rack

I'm setting up a live POP site that is also supposed to be for showing off
when we give people a tour of our office.

Is there anything special you would do to make a 23" 2 post rack full of
equipment look extra awesome?  Fancy lighting? Tie Die? Lipstick?  

Artistry is not my bailiwick.

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Model 3 and Y reliability is very good. Build quality on exterior varies.
Some cars are perfect and others have some issues if you look close. I can
also go to the lot of any other car brand and find similar issues. The
exception may be Toyota which seems to have very high build quality. I
never had any functional issues with my model 3 that prevented me from
driving it. There were some paint issues that they corrected. Any warranty
issue I had was covered just fine. Tesla is 8-10 years ahead of other EV
vehicles in terms of reliability and technical capabilites.

Chuck, I'm not sure which model 3 you ordered but the single motor RWD
starts at $47k with 272 miles of range. The dual motor long range is $56k
with 358 miles of range. This is with the recent price increase they had a
few weeks ago. If you ordered before that, your price is probably 3500
less.

On Thu, May 26, 2022, 12:44 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or
> build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely
> by the MY. The two share 80% of their components.
>
> If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with
> niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors
> and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also
> on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China).
> They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen
> look almost perfect WRT fit and finish.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>
> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
> company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
> or customer in general?
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
>> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
>> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>
>> *From:* Robert
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which,
>> after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three
>> months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting
>> into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now
>> being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I
>> think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are
>> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
>> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
>> the factories ramp up.
>>
>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is
>> is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I
>> still have the gas guzzling 911!
>>
>> Peace out.
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>
>> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range I
>> think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really
>> don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>>
>> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I started it.
>>
>> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and Lewis
>> used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the
>> OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>>
>> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need
>> trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>>
>> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>>
>> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July
>> so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved
>> the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

I ordered the RWD 272 miles.  $46+K

From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Model 3 and Y reliability is very good. Build quality on exterior varies. Some 
cars are perfect and others have some issues if you look close. I can also go 
to the lot of any other car brand and find similar issues. The exception may be 
Toyota which seems to have very high build quality. I never had any functional 
issues with my model 3 that prevented me from driving it. There were some paint 
issues that they corrected. Any warranty issue I had was covered just fine. 
Tesla is 8-10 years ahead of other EV vehicles in terms of reliability and 
technical capabilites.  

Chuck, I'm not sure which model 3 you ordered but the single motor RWD starts 
at $47k with 272 miles of range. The dual motor long range is $56k with 358 
miles of range. This is with the recent price increase they had a few weeks 
ago. If you ordered before that, your price is probably 3500 less. 

On Thu, May 26, 2022, 12:44 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or 
build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely by 
the MY. The two share 80% of their components.

  If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with 
niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors and 
the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off 
issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They have been 
getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect 
WRT fit and finish.

bp
On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.  

From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a 
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty 
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or 
customer in general? 

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I 
have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be the 
last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

  From: Robert 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, 
after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months 
ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting into and out 
of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now being replaced.   We 
have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think the full autopilot 
is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am 
seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this high.  $20K over 
our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in 
the next year or so as the factories ramp up.

  On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is 
is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I 
still have the gas guzzling 911! 

Peace out.
  On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

  Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile 
range I think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I 
really don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

  From: Cassidy B. Larson 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?

On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

Sorry, I started it.  

Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and 
Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have 
the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that 
need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due 
in July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I 
loved the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of 
enjoyment.  

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool, not a 
trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an extravagance, not 
a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I 
needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an airplane once.  Only 
two times I have bought something I didn’t really need.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or build 
quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely by the MY. 
The two share 80% of their components.

If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with 
niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors and 
the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off 
issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They have been 
getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect 
WRT fit and finish.

bp
On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

  Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.  

  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a 
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty 
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or 
customer in general? 

  On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I 
have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be the 
last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

From: Robert 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, 
after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months 
ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting into and out 
of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now being replaced.   We 
have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think the full autopilot 
is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am 
seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this high.  $20K over 
our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in 
the next year or so as the factories ramp up.

On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

  Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is 
is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I 
still have the gas guzzling 911! 

  Peace out.
On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range 
I think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really 
don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?

  On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

  Sorry, I started it.  

  Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and 
Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have 
the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

  But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that 
need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

  So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

  BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in 
July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved 
the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  

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Re: [AFMUG] LENT

If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY
happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more
fun. The infotainment is awesome too.

Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger network
is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even with
lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time will
be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You
should not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to
the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips to keep
the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the
closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be
made faster if you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to
100% for example.

For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full to
maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan on
driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged above
90% for an extended period of time.

But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the LFP
battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about hurting
the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the LFP
battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need to
do so on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit
100%. Just charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or
destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all
around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so
you can find spots like restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool, not a
> trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an extravagance,
> not a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is
> expiring I needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an
> airplane once.  Only two times I have bought something I didn’t really
> need.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
>
> Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or
> build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely
> by the MY. The two share 80% of their components.
>
> If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with
> niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors
> and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also
> on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China).
> They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen
> look almost perfect WRT fit and finish.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>
> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
> company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
> or customer in general?
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
>> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
>> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>
>> *From:* Robert
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which,
>> after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three
>> months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting
>> into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now
>> being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I
>> think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are
>> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
>> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
>> the factories ramp up.
>>
>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is
>> is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I
>> still have the gas guzzling 911!
>>
>> Peace out.
>>

Re: [AFMUG] LENT

With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in one case 
where I had a long commute, both at work and at home.  Never had a battery 
problem.  Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that problem.

Looking forward to the heated battery.  Not understanding if I should not 
charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT.  I like 
having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want.  But if that is 
hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge.  



From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY happy 
with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more fun. The 
infotainment is awesome too. 

Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger network is 
the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even with lower 
range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time will be under 
20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You should not 
charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to the next 
charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips to keep the charge 
times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the closer you get to 
100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be made faster if you charge 
from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for example.

For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full to 
maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan on 
driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged above 90% 
for an extended period of time.

But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the LFP 
battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about hurting the 
battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the LFP battery. If 
you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need to do so on road 
trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit 100%. Just charge 
until you have enough range to reach your next stop or destination. Also 
download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all around the country 
that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so you can find spots like 
restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html


On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool, not a 
trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an extravagance, not 
a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I 
needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an airplane once.  Only 
two times I have bought something I didn’t really need.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or 
build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely by 
the MY. The two share 80% of their components.

  If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with 
niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors and 
the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off 
issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They have been 
getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect 
WRT fit and finish.



bp
On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.  

From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a 
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty 
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or 
customer in general? 


On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I 
have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be the 
last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

  From: Robert 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, 
after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months 
ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting into and out 
of the 3 was just too much for these knees, whi

Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Go ahead and charge it as often as you want; just set the thing to stop
charging at 80%, except as Darin outlined above.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in one
> case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home.  Never had a
> battery problem.  Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that
> problem.
>
> Looking forward to the heated battery.  Not understanding if I should not
> charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT.  I
> like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want.  But
> if that is hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge.
>
>
>
> *From:* Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY
> happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more
> fun. The infotainment is awesome too.
>
> Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger network
> is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even with
> lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time will
> be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You
> should not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to
> the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips to keep
> the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the
> closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be
> made faster if you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to
> 100% for example.
>
> For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full to
> maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan on
> driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged above
> 90% for an extended period of time.
>
> But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the LFP
> battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about hurting
> the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the LFP
> battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need to
> do so on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit
> 100%. Just charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or
> destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all
> around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so
> you can find spots like restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.
>
>
> https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool, not a
>> trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an extravagance,
>> not a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is
>> expiring I needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an
>> airplane once.  Only two times I have bought something I didn’t really
>> need.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>>
>> Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or
>> build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely
>> by the MY. The two share 80% of their components.
>>
>> If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with
>> niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors
>> and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also
>> on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China).
>> They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen
>> look almost perfect WRT fit and finish.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>>
>> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>
>> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a
>> company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
>> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
>> or customer in general?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I
>>> have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be
>>> the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert
>>> *Sent:* Wedn

Tesla recommends plugging in. You can set how full it will charge to
with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you
leave that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries. You
will like the phone app it has a lot of features. I figured out that
you can create an email alias and have both your and your wifes phone
use that to log in with full features instead of having a superior and
inferior account.

On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in
one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home. Never
had a battery problem. Except during really cold weather but all
Leafs have that problem.
Looking forward to the heated battery. Not understanding if I should
not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles
RT. I like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I
want. But if that is hard on the battery I will have to change the
way I charge.

*From:* Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be
VERY happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range,
bigger, and more fun. The infotainment is awesome too.
Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger
network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy
even with lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so
charge time will be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total
capacity on each charge. You should not charge to 100% unless you
absolutely need that range to get to the next charger. I recommend
only charging to 80% on road trips to keep the charge times down. Like
any battery, the charge rate decreases the closer you get to 100%. It
drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be made faster if you charge
from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for example.
For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full
to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that,
plan on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit
charged above 90% for an extended period of time.
But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the
LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about
hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you
have the LFP battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but
you do not need to do so on road trips using superchargers because it
takes too long to hit 100%. Just charge until you have enough range to
reach your next stop or destination. Also download Plugshare and you
can find Level 2 chargers all around the country that aren't listed in
the Tesla map. Many are free so you can find spots like restaurants or
hotels that offer free charging.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF
wrote:

I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues. A car is a
tool, not a trophy. It is an expense, not an investment. A tesla
is an extravagance, not a need. But I sure hate buying gasoline,
so since my Leaf lease is expiring I needed to get something. I
am buying this and I bought an airplane once. Only two times I
have bought something I didn’t really need.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for
"reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high,
followed relatively closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their
components.

If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do
with niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear
view mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing
doors. There are also on-and-off issues with build quality (except
for the ones made in China). They have been getting steadily
better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect WRT
fit and finish.

On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
*From:* Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity
with a company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues,
poor warranty experiences, and don't seem to generally care about
their customer service or customer in general?
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF
wrote:

I am starting to have second though

Re: [AFMUG] LENT

2022-05-26 Thread Robert

Also note that with the phone app with full features location tracing on
the car is always available.

On 5/26/22 7:26 PM, Robert wrote:
Tesla recommends plugging in. You can set how full it will charge to
with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you
leave that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries.
You will like the phone app it has a lot of features. I figured out
that you can create an email alias and have both your and your wifes
phone use that to log in with full features instead of having a
superior and inferior account.

*From:* Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be
VERY happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range,
bigger, and more fun. The infotainment is awesome too.
Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger
network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy
even with lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so
charge time will be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total
capacity on each charge. You should not charge to 100% unless you
absolutely need that range to get to the next charger. I recommend
only charging to 80% on road trips to keep the charge times down.
Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the closer you get to
100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be made faster if
you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for
example.
For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full
to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that,
plan on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit
charged above 90% for an extended period of time.
But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the
LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about
hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you
have the LFP battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but
you do not need to do so on road trips using superchargers because it
takes too long to hit 100%. Just charge until you have enough range
to reach your next stop or destination. Also download Plugshare and
you can find Level 2 chargers all around the country that aren't
listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so you can find spots like
restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF
wrote:

I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues. A car is a
tool, not a trophy. It is an expense, not an investment. A
tesla is an extravagance, not a need. But I sure hate buying
gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I needed to get
something. I am buying this and I bought an airplane once. Only
two times I have bought something I didn’t really need.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for
"reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high,
followed relatively closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their
components.

If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to
do with niggling little things like door handles and retracting
rear view mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing
doors. There are also on-and-off issues with build quality
(except for the ones made in China). They have been getting
steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost
perfect WRT fit and finish.

On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or
company.
*From:* Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or
longevity with a company that hasn't been forthright about
existing issues, poor warranty experiences, and don't seem to
generally care about their customer se

Re: [AFMUG] LENT