What is an "assault style weapon"? Are you talking about a butter knife?
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 7:08 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Trying to convince me that these assault style weapons should be legal and
> available to a non law enforcement persons would be a Sisyphean effort on
> your part.
> Cut the head of the snake was meant figuratively....but I would slap him
> if I had the chance. Not worthy of a punch.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 4:27 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
>> Griffin
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:51 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>> Cutting his head off? Kathie Lee Gifford will confirm that is in fact a
>> concern.
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 3:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Calling for an indictment is not a threat. Personally I would like to
>>> see him and Hillary to spend a few days in jail.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ban all assault weapons...
>>> Normal folks don't need those...
>>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively ..
>>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>>
>>> Define "assault weapon".
>>> Define normal folk? Who says those people don't need them?
>>> There's already a background check. Those individuals that go through
>>> the background check do not correlate to the offenders in most situations
>>> What exactly are white supremacists doing that's illegal for someone to
>>> "go after them"? Are they hurting anyone?
>>> You just threatened a former US president, which is an offense more
>>> serious than some white guy hating other races. So the only one doing
>>> something wrong in this situation would be you...
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:31 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ban all assault weapons...
>>>> Normal folks don't need those...
>>>> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>>>> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively ..
>>>> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What would you have them do?
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>
>>>>> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
>>>>> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
>>>>> Tony Gonzales for one .
>>>>> I call it as it is...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations. So
>>>>>> why is it always the total fault of Republicans? Are Democrats so
>>>>>> feckless
>>>>>> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people
>>>>>> with assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>>>>>> You don't live near the border...
>>>>>> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
>>>>>> assholes...
>>>>>> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a
>>>>>> grandfather of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>>>>>> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP,
>>>>>> pro life my ass..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of
>>>>>>> firearms we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats
>>>>>>> fight very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> that turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be
>>>>>>> Compton
>>>>>>> USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot.
>>>>>>> You dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every
>>>>>>>> other country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to
>>>>>>>> criminals. Every gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally.
>>>>>>>> Requiring universal background checks means no more private sales
>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>> background check. Gun shows and private party sales don't require
>>>>>>>> checks
>>>>>>>> today when they should.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a
>>>>>>>> firearm, this means sellers will be liable if the firearm they
>>>>>>>> sold/gifted
>>>>>>>> is used to commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something
>>>>>>>> serious.
>>>>>>>> Send a message that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
>>>>>>>> People will lock up their guns and be way more careful about who they
>>>>>>>> sell
>>>>>>>> or gift them to if they are liable for crimes committed using their
>>>>>>>> firearm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't you see how these measures will reduce the supply of legal
>>>>>>>> guns going to criminals and mentally unstable people? Again, look at
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> other country that has either gun bans or strict gun control and their
>>>>>>>> statistics clearly show that they have less gun violence per capita.
>>>>>>>> If it
>>>>>>>> works everywhere else, it WILL work here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership should be passed too
>>>>>>>> so if someone becomes mentally unstable and starts posting about
>>>>>>>> threats or
>>>>>>>> violence they want to cause, the sheriff should be able to sieze their
>>>>>>>> guns
>>>>>>>> until they have a psych eval and can prove they're sane enough to get
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> guns back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun
>>>>>>>> is a good guy with a gun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure they
>>>>>>>> never have access to a gun to begin with. There's multiple reasons why
>>>>>>>> arming more people is a bad idea. There's too many cooks in the kitchen
>>>>>>>> then. Say you're in Texas at church where many people carry. Someone
>>>>>>>> decides to start killing people in church so 20 "good guys" with guns
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> out their pistol and have to decide who the bad guy is... How many good
>>>>>>>> guys end up getting shot by other good guys? The answer is quite a
>>>>>>>> few. You
>>>>>>>> don't always know who the bad guy with a gun is if all the good guys
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> guns draw at the same time. You could be shot by other good guys or
>>>>>>>> cops on
>>>>>>>> accident. Worse yet would be shooting innocent bystanders because
>>>>>>>> there's a
>>>>>>>> 20 person firefight happening in church.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The solution goes back to people having fewer guns and America
>>>>>>>> getting rid of their obsession with guns. Keep them for hunting but
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> make guns a personality trait. The people who take family Christmas
>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>> pictures all holding guns is embarrassing as hell. Like can't you just
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>> guns and be private about it instead of acting all Macho and worshiping
>>>>>>>> your weapons?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, I am a gun owner and have a permit to carry. I do not carry
>>>>>>>> but have the ability to. I have several pistols and some hunting
>>>>>>>> rifles and
>>>>>>>> shotguns. I have no desire for an assault rifle and don't see the need
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> others to want them either. I think it should be much harder to buy a
>>>>>>>> gun
>>>>>>>> and I support that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The solution to gun violence is not to hire more armed guards and
>>>>>>>> police officers to patrol schools and other public places. All that
>>>>>>>> does is
>>>>>>>> cost tons of money and doesn't prevent a bad guy from shooting up a
>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>> It may only reduce the response time to take out the shooter. Think 20
>>>>>>>> steps before we get to the shooting. Preventing access to guns is Step
>>>>>>>> #1
>>>>>>>> in preventing these mass shootings and requires no extra money or armed
>>>>>>>> guards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Facts show these measures will work to reduce gun violence.
>>>>>>>> Opinions, thoughts and prayers do nothing to stop gun violence.
>>>>>>>> Supporting
>>>>>>>> the gun lobby does not help. Allowing politicians to block all gun
>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> legislation does not help. Over 90% of Americans support universal
>>>>>>>> background checks yet the Republicans won't do a damn thing to pass it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll scream this until people hear it, the Republicans are the
>>>>>>>> obstructionist, pro-death party. Their only platform is to say no to
>>>>>>>> democrats. They blocked bills to reduce the cost on insulin, help
>>>>>>>> increase
>>>>>>>> supply of baby formula, help reduce gas prices, etc. They actively try
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> hurt the American people. They take away human rights. They lie about
>>>>>>>> science and allow their supporters to die from covid by spreading
>>>>>>>> misinformation. They try to scare their supports by putting the fear
>>>>>>>> of God
>>>>>>>> into them with baseless claims of replacement theory, war on God,
>>>>>>>> indoctrination...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The party has become a joke. No spine and full of cowards who won't
>>>>>>>> stand up to hateful rhetoric. A coup attempt on January 6 and the party
>>>>>>>> still spreads the big lie that trump won when he clearly lost in the
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> secure election in history. The party is becoming worthless and the
>>>>>>>> younger
>>>>>>>> generation won't tolerate all the BS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Democrat is the progressive party that cares about all people and
>>>>>>>> as long as we keep it moderate and speak up about what we like and
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> like, they are likely to listen. Reach out to your politicians and tell
>>>>>>>> them what you want them to do if you don't agree with their platform.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fuck our piece of shit governor, Trumpabbott and all his gun
>>>>>>>>> loving supporters...
>>>>>>>>> Fuck his press release...
>>>>>>>>> These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
>>>>>>>>> Trumputinsky, Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to
>>>>>>>>> hell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl <
>>>>>>>>> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from
>>>>>>>>>> the right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of
>>>>>>>>>> sensible gun
>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to
>>>>>>>>>> be passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no
>>>>>>>>>> exceptions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to
>>>>>>>>>> do nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to
>>>>>>>>>> keep gun
>>>>>>>>>> nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun
>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing
>>>>>>>>>> and shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your
>>>>>>>>>> politicians and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn
>>>>>>>>>> joke.
>>>>>>>>>> These mass shootings only happen in America.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion
>>>>>>>>>> if your party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Figuratively inside the lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of rules and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>> McCown via AF
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator. Then we had to do
>>>>>>>>>>> compacted fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled
>>>>>>>>>>> down on
>>>>>>>>>>> both sides so the profile of the patch formed a T shape. We used
>>>>>>>>>>> the hot
>>>>>>>>>>> sticky apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to
>>>>>>>>>>> dumping
>>>>>>>>>>> hot mix on it and compacting. The guy running the sprayer was
>>>>>>>>>>> almost empty
>>>>>>>>>>> so he sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> gravel empty his machine. Not sure why he wanted to empty it as
>>>>>>>>>>> normally
>>>>>>>>>>> they just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean
>>>>>>>>>>> up job where he emptied his sprayer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then the next year they chip sealed that road. That involves
>>>>>>>>>>> laying down rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder with the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in
>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>> for the year before. Same inspector was there. I got out and
>>>>>>>>>>> asked why
>>>>>>>>>>> UDOT can do it and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less
>>>>>>>>>>> hazardous.
>>>>>>>>>>> He told me to get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but it's organic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe
>>>>>>>>>>> asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve
>>>>>>>>>>> Jones
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the
>>>>>>>>>>> benefits of governance without the costs. In a libertarian society
>>>>>>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>>>>>> a 100 mile road, you would destroy your car every trip because
>>>>>>>>>>> there would
>>>>>>>>>>> be no single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure we
>>>>>>>>>>> have road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>> road. And if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and
>>>>>>>>>>> you know
>>>>>>>>>>> keith at mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I
>>>>>>>>>>> not a Y
>>>>>>>>>>> and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are
>>>>>>>>>>> environmentally
>>>>>>>>>>> friendly, so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by
>>>>>>>>>>> animals, paul at mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his
>>>>>>>>>>> road,
>>>>>>>>>>> then Greg up at mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders
>>>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>>>> his mile.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of
>>>>>>>>>>> someone else's, they want their government based on their current
>>>>>>>>>>> whim.
>>>>>>>>>>> Most of their arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best
>>>>>>>>>>> to not push too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> to a fingerful of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers
>>>>>>>>>>> and the (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in
>>>>>>>>>>> whackadoodle land
>>>>>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on
>>>>>>>>>>> board. I registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my
>>>>>>>>>>> wallet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> …..and then I met the other libertarians. Some I can relate
>>>>>>>>>>> with and some others are absolutely insane.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> McKemie
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially
>>>>>>>>>>> identify as libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like
>>>>>>>>>>> Lauren Bobert elected lol :-/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a throwaway vote!!!! You have to vote libertarian if
>>>>>>>>>>> you want a libertarian!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky,
>>>>>>>>>>> y’all need to go back to bed and get some rest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal,
>>>>>>>>>>> fiscally conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a
>>>>>>>>>>> throwaway
>>>>>>>>>>> vote)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <
>>>>>>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> could use some more grit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people
>>>>>>>>>>> never affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker
>>>>>>>>>>> that he is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor.
>>>>>>>>>>> And I try
>>>>>>>>>>> to teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if
>>>>>>>>>>> they are my
>>>>>>>>>>> employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I
>>>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a
>>>>>>>>>>> noble cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in
>>>>>>>>>>> socially
>>>>>>>>>>> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist.
>>>>>>>>>>> Look at
>>>>>>>>>>> antifa and proud boys.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact
>>>>>>>>>>> same reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line
>>>>>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Cameron Crum
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All
>>>>>>>>>>> ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from
>>>>>>>>>>> substance abuse
>>>>>>>>>>> and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe
>>>>>>>>>>> around them
>>>>>>>>>>> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to
>>>>>>>>>>> pass judgement.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the
>>>>>>>>>>> rebels fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in
>>>>>>>>>>> Utah feel
>>>>>>>>>>> like they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>> McCown via AF
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family
>>>>>>>>>>> dinners just to be able to still see some of my kids.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a
>>>>>>>>>>> lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and
>>>>>>>>>>> then at
>>>>>>>>>>> their whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a
>>>>>>>>>>> half
>>>>>>>>>>> hour walk in the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Odd times....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I loved my parents and grandparents.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never felt they had to earn it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they
>>>>>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our
>>>>>>>>>>> families were separate all while the kids were growing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the
>>>>>>>>>>> exact same vernacular.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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