I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool, not a 
trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an extravagance, not 
a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I 
needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an airplane once.  Only 
two times I have bought something I didn’t really need.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or build 
quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely by the MY. 
The two share 80% of their components.

If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with 
niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors and 
the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off 
issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They have been 
getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect 
WRT fit and finish.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

  Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.  

  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

  Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a 
company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty 
experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or 
customer in general? 


  On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I 
have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This might be the 
last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

    From: Robert 
    Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

    We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, 
after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months 
ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   Getting into and out 
of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now being replaced.   We 
have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think the full autopilot 
is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am 
seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this high.  $20K over 
our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in 
the next year or so as the factories ramp up.


    On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

      Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is 
is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I 
still have the gas guzzling 911! 

      Peace out.
        On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

        Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile range 
I think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping so I really 
don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

        From: Cassidy B. Larson 
        Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Cc: Chuck McCown 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

        Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?




          On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

          Sorry, I started it.  

          Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and 
Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have 
the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.  

          But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that 
need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.  

          So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

          BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in 
July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I loved 
the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of enjoyment.  


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