Ya sorry I had to chew through all of the emails to get that far up. FIFO
problems.
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:30 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know it’s very tempting to keep commenting. Lent has been invoked. We
> have to let it go.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> What is an "assault style weapon"? Are you talking about a butter knife?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 7:08 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Trying to convince me that these assault style weapons should be legal and
> available to a non law enforcement persons would be a Sisyphean effort on
> your part.
>
> Cut the head of the snake was meant figuratively....but I would slap him
> if I had the chance. Not worthy of a punch.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 4:27 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
> Griffin
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:51 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> Cutting his head off? Kathie Lee Gifford will confirm that is in fact a
> concern.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 3:48 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> Calling for an indictment is not a threat. Personally I would like to see
> him and Hillary to spend a few days in jail.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ban all assault weapons...
> Normal folks don't need those...
> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively ..
> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>
>
>
> Define "assault weapon".
>
> Define normal folk? Who says those people don't need them?
>
> There's already a background check. Those individuals that go through the
> background check do not correlate to the offenders in most situations
>
> What exactly are white supremacists doing that's illegal for someone to
> "go after them"? Are they hurting anyone?
>
> You just threatened a former US president, which is an offense more
> serious than some white guy hating other races. So the only one doing
> something wrong in this situation would be you...
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:31 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ban all assault weapons...
>
> Normal folks don't need those...
>
> Make purchasing guns harder and stricter background checks..
>
> Go after white supremacist groups aggressively ..
>
> Cut the head of the snake off...indict trump
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 9:25 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
> What would you have them do?
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:02 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> I stand by my posts...in Texas it's the Republicans who are strong gun
> supporters...and fuck Democrats who don't do shit...
>
> Tony Gonzales for one .
>
> I call it as it is...
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
> This has been building for decades and multiple administrations. So why
> is it always the total fault of Republicans? Are Democrats so feckless
> they cannot do anything but whine raise taxes?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing children or people with
> assault weapons...they come here for a better life...
>
> You don't live near the border...
>
> You see things through a tunnel vision created by xenophobic racist
> assholes...
>
> I have been to Uvalde many times for work and pleasure...as a grandfather
> of 16 school age children this hit me very hard...
>
> Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro
> life my ass..
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> No country that enacted these controls already had the volume of firearms
> we have presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban them and you have
> nothing but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that democrats fight
> very hard to ensure whole people can get across. Ban guns and see how that
> turns out. Disarm real people and every city and town will be Compton USA.
> Stop the hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be less.
>
>
>
> You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You
> dont care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there
> shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce violence. Look at every other
> country in the world and how much less gun violence they have.
>
>
>
> Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply available to criminals. Every
> gun a criminal has/had was at some point sold legally. Requiring universal
> background checks means no more private sales without a background check.
> Gun shows and private party sales don't require checks today when they
> should.
>
>
>
> If background checks are required for any sale or gift of a firearm, this
> means sellers will be liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used to
> commit a crime if they didn't do a background check. Hold people
> accountable who put guns into the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
> parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the parent for something serious.
> Send a message that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
> People will lock up their guns and be way more careful about who they sell
> or gift them to if they are liable for crimes committed using their
> firearm.
>
>
>
> Can't you see how these measures will reduce the supply of legal guns
> going to criminals and mentally unstable people? Again, look at every other
> country that has either gun bans or strict gun control and their statistics
> clearly show that they have less gun violence per capita. If it works
> everywhere else, it WILL work here.
>
>
>
> Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership should be passed too so if
> someone becomes mentally unstable and starts posting about threats or
> violence they want to cause, the sheriff should be able to sieze their guns
> until they have a psych eval and can prove they're sane enough to get their
> guns back.
>
>
>
> This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a
> good guy with a gun.
>
>
>
> The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure they never have
> access to a gun to begin with. There's multiple reasons why arming more
> people is a bad idea. There's too many cooks in the kitchen then. Say
> you're in Texas at church where many people carry. Someone decides to start
> killing people in church so 20 "good guys" with guns pull out their pistol
> and have to decide who the bad guy is... How many good guys end up getting
> shot by other good guys? The answer is quite a few. You don't always know
> who the bad guy with a gun is if all the good guys with guns draw at the
> same time. You could be shot by other good guys or cops on accident. Worse
> yet would be shooting innocent bystanders because there's a 20 person
> firefight happening in church.
>
>
>
> The solution goes back to people having fewer guns and America getting rid
> of their obsession with guns. Keep them for hunting but don't make guns a
> personality trait. The people who take family Christmas card pictures all
> holding guns is embarrassing as hell. Like can't you just own guns and be
> private about it instead of acting all Macho and worshiping your weapons?!
>
>
>
> FYI, I am a gun owner and have a permit to carry. I do not carry but have
> the ability to. I have several pistols and some hunting rifles and
> shotguns. I have no desire for an assault rifle and don't see the need for
> others to want them either. I think it should be much harder to buy a gun
> and I support that.
>
>
>
> The solution to gun violence is not to hire more armed guards and police
> officers to patrol schools and other public places. All that does is cost
> tons of money and doesn't prevent a bad guy from shooting up a place. It
> may only reduce the response time to take out the shooter. Think 20 steps
> before we get to the shooting. Preventing access to guns is Step #1 in
> preventing these mass shootings and requires no extra money or armed guards.
>
>
>
> Facts show these measures will work to reduce gun violence. Opinions,
> thoughts and prayers do nothing to stop gun violence. Supporting the gun
> lobby does not help. Allowing politicians to block all gun control
> legislation does not help. Over 90% of Americans support universal
> background checks yet the Republicans won't do a damn thing to pass it.
>
>
>
> I'll scream this until people hear it, the Republicans are the
> obstructionist, pro-death party. Their only platform is to say no to
> democrats. They blocked bills to reduce the cost on insulin, help increase
> supply of baby formula, help reduce gas prices, etc. They actively try to
> hurt the American people. They take away human rights. They lie about
> science and allow their supporters to die from covid by spreading
> misinformation. They try to scare their supports by putting the fear of God
> into them with baseless claims of replacement theory, war on God,
> indoctrination...
>
>
>
> The party has become a joke. No spine and full of cowards who won't stand
> up to hateful rhetoric. A coup attempt on January 6 and the party still
> spreads the big lie that trump won when he clearly lost in the most secure
> election in history. The party is becoming worthless and the younger
> generation won't tolerate all the BS.
>
>
>
> Democrat is the progressive party that cares about all people and as long
> as we keep it moderate and speak up about what we like and don't like, they
> are likely to listen. Reach out to your politicians and tell them what you
> want them to do if you don't agree with their platform.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Fuck our piece of shit governor, Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
> supporters...
>
> Fuck his press release...
>
> These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
>
> Trumputinsky, Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the
> right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun
> control.
>
>
>
> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be
> passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
>
>
>
> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do
> nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun
> nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
>
>
>
> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and
> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians
> and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass
> shootings only happen in America.
>
>
>
> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your
> party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Figuratively inside the lines.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> ...you mean outside the lines?
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules
> and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator. Then we had to do compacted
> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides
> so the profile of the patch formed a T shape. We used the hot sticky
> apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix
> on it and compacting. The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he
> sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel
> empty his machine. Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they
> just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>
>
>
> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job
> where he emptied his sprayer.
>
>
>
> Then the next year they chip sealed that road. That involves laying down
> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with
> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
> before. Same inspector was there. I got out and asked why UDOT can do it
> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous. He told me to
> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> but it's organic.
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and
> concrete are environmentally friendly”
>
>
>
> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of
> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile
> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no
> single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have
> road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And
> if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at
> mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke
> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly,
> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at
> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at
> mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
>
> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's,
> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their
> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>
>
>
> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push
> too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a
> fingerful of shit.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the
> (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board. I
> registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.
>
> …..and then I met the other libertarians. Some I can relate with and some
> others are absolutely insane.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify as
> libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
>
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren
> Bobert elected lol :-/
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's not a throwaway vote!!!! You have to vote libertarian if you want a
> libertarian!
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
>
>
>
> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need to
> go back to bed and get some rest.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally
> conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone could use
> some more grit.
>
>
>
> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never
> affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves in the
> trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to
> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.
>
>
>
> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he
> is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor. And I try to
> teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if they are my
> employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I fire
> them.
>
>
>
> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a noble
> cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially
> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist. Look at
> antifa and proud boys.
>
>
>
> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same
> reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying
> to advance.
>
>
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All
> ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse
> and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are
> always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them
> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
>
>
>
> …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to pass
> judgement.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels
> fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in Utah feel like
> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
>
> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
>
>
>
> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>
>
>
> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
>
>
>
> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just
> to be able to still see some of my kids.
>
> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime
> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims
> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in
> the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
>
>
>
> Odd times....
>
> I loved my parents and grandparents.
>
> Never felt they had to earn it.
>
> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.
>
>
>
> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our families were
> separate all while the kids were growing.
>
> But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the exact same
> vernacular.
>
>
>
> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
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