> Ahh I was wrong about the date of MSexcel for macintosh...
> The first version of excel written was for the macintosh 512K back in
> 84-85 according to:http://dss.cba.uni.edu/dss/sshistory.html

Wow... something relatively innovated by Microsoft... Thanks for the 
link. 

> > Yeah but they also had software tie-ins to Irix.
> 
> ahh yes.. another criminal company who is doing "tie-ins"

Alias wasn't written BY SGI... at the time, SGI was the premier graphics 
workstation.  Alias, was, however written for SGI, and it's not until 
recently that they ported it to another OS.

> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/download/ie5all.htm
> it came out as IE4 initialy...

Still, aside from my ignorance of when they ported IE... my point was, 
that they wanted to have IE be the dominating browser on the internet, 
because Java was felt to be a serious threat to MS's cash cow, windows, 
and Netscape was the primary way java was being distributed to the 
masses.  If you control the browser, you can thwart java, and thus keep 
control of OS dependency.  So they ported it to unix... get more people 
to use it, works for them.

> So how is a company to decide? What defence does a company have if they
> are being accused of illegal tactics for doing tie-ins with a given
> product?

Most companies don't have problems deciding, using unethical strongarm 
tactics are against most companies' values.  Notice that MS isn't 
defending their actions as "we didn't know!" they were trying to prove 
that the browser was an integral thing in the OS when NO OTHER Os has it 
"integrated".

Dianna

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