This thread reminds me of tison's proposal that use "Maintainer" instead of "PMC Member".
https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw On Wed, Jul 3, 2024, at 10:04, Jiacai Liu wrote: >> And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong >> thing *or* >> get into bad habits. > > Thank John for your kindly understanding. > > Also as a non-native English speaker, when I see abbreviation like > PMC, > my first insight is this word could be used on its own, `PMC > member` looks a little redundancy for me... > > on Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 08:50:45 AM +0800, John Gemignani wrote: > >> My 2 cents as being a PMC member and once part of incubation,... >> >> To be honest, I've never really paid much attention when someone >> stated >> they're a PMC. I knew what was meant and just auto corrected it >> in my head. >> I have used, without fully thinking about it, PMC as, "I am a >> PMC" as well. >> When I meant, or should have meant, "I am a PMC member", and I'm >> a native >> English speaker. >> >> As was mentioned, people from different cultures might have >> different ways >> of using a term like PMC. I just don't feel that getting upset >> over, >> arguably an innocuous misuse, engenders community. >> >> And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong >> thing *or* >> get into bad habits. >> >> Again, my 2 cents. >> >> john >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tison, >>> >>> I’m sympathetic as well. >>> >>> > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:11 PM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Greg, >>> > >>> > I saw this kind of thread many times, and I also corrected it >>> > dozens >>> > of times. Actually, this is part of the reason for [1] >>> > ("Maintainer" >>> > as an alias of PMC Member?). >>> > >>> > [1] >>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw >>> >>> That quickly turned into a not very sympathetic response from >>> most. An >>> easy what to name the Bikeshed. I think that most of our group >>> are people >>> whose second language is python, java, or fortran and their >>> first language >>> is some version of English. >>> >>> > >>> > Somehow, I share the sympathy for non-native speakers to make >>> > an >>> > analogy between committer and "PMC" since they're all >>> > one-word >>> > phrases. >>> >>> Maybe explain it from your perspective as a speaker of Mandarin >>> (or >>> Cantonese?). How does the phrase Committee Member translate >>> compared to >>> Committee. >>> >>> Best, >>> Dave >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > tison. >>> > >>> > Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 于2024年7月2日周二 17:05写道： >>> >> >>> >> Hello all, >>> >> >>> >> I am getting really tired of seeing people refer to >>> >> *MEMBERS* of a PMC >>> as >>> >> "PMCs". >>> >> >>> >> PMC stands for Project Management Committee. >>> >> >>> >> You have MEMBERS of that PMC. >>> >> >>> >> People are never to be called a PMC, nor a group of them as >>> >> PMCs. People >>> >> are not committees. The acronym "PMC" is short for a >>> >> committee, not a >>> >> person. >>> >> >>> >> Please stop the confusion. Teach the community how to use >>> >> the proper >>> terms. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Greg >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: >>> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Xuanwo https://xuanwo.io/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
