My 2 cents as being a PMC member and once part of incubation,...
To be honest, I've never really paid much attention when someone stated
they're a PMC. I knew what was meant and just auto corrected it in my head.
I have used, without fully thinking about it, PMC as, "I am a PMC" as well.
When I meant, or should have meant, "I am a PMC member", and I'm a native
English speaker.
As was mentioned, people from different cultures might have different ways
of using a term like PMC. I just don't feel that getting upset over,
arguably an innocuous misuse, engenders community.
And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong thing *or*
get into bad habits.
Again, my 2 cents.
john
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Tison,
>
> I’m sympathetic as well.
>
> > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:11 PM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > I saw this kind of thread many times, and I also corrected it dozens
> > of times. Actually, this is part of the reason for [1] ("Maintainer"
> > as an alias of PMC Member?).
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw
>
> That quickly turned into a not very sympathetic response from most. An
> easy what to name the Bikeshed. I think that most of our group are people
> whose second language is python, java, or fortran and their first language
> is some version of English.
>
> >
> > Somehow, I share the sympathy for non-native speakers to make an
> > analogy between committer and "PMC" since they're all one-word
> > phrases.
>
> Maybe explain it from your perspective as a speaker of Mandarin (or
> Cantonese?). How does the phrase Committee Member translate compared to
> Committee.
>
> Best,
> Dave
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> > Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 于2024年7月2日周二 17:05写道：
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I am getting really tired of seeing people refer to *MEMBERS* of a PMC
> as
> >> "PMCs".
> >>
> >> PMC stands for Project Management Committee.
> >>
> >> You have MEMBERS of that PMC.
> >>
> >> People are never to be called a PMC, nor a group of them as PMCs. People
> >> are not committees. The acronym "PMC" is short for a committee, not a
> >> person.
> >>
> >> Please stop the confusion. Teach the community how to use the proper
> terms.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Greg
> >
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