And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong
thing *or*
get into bad habits.
Thank John for your kindly understanding.
Also as a non-native English speaker, when I see abbreviation like
PMC,
my first insight is this word could be used on its own, `PMC
member` looks a little redundancy for me...
on Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 08:50:45 AM +0800, John Gemignani wrote:
My 2 cents as being a PMC member and once part of incubation,...
To be honest, I've never really paid much attention when someone
stated
they're a PMC. I knew what was meant and just auto corrected it
in my head.
I have used, without fully thinking about it, PMC as, "I am a
PMC" as well.
When I meant, or should have meant, "I am a PMC member", and I'm
a native
English speaker.
As was mentioned, people from different cultures might have
different ways
of using a term like PMC. I just don't feel that getting upset
over,
arguably an innocuous misuse, engenders community.
And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong
thing *or*
get into bad habits.
Again, my 2 cents.
john
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
wrote:
Hi Tison,
I’m sympathetic as well.
> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:11 PM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I saw this kind of thread many times, and I also corrected it
> dozens
> of times. Actually, this is part of the reason for [1]
> ("Maintainer"
> as an alias of PMC Member?).
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw
That quickly turned into a not very sympathetic response from
most. An
easy what to name the Bikeshed. I think that most of our group
are people
whose second language is python, java, or fortran and their
first language
is some version of English.
>
> Somehow, I share the sympathy for non-native speakers to make
> an
> analogy between committer and "PMC" since they're all
> one-word
> phrases.
Maybe explain it from your perspective as a speaker of Mandarin
(or
Cantonese?). How does the phrase Committee Member translate
compared to
Committee.
Best,
Dave
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 于2024年7月2日周二 17:05写道：
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am getting really tired of seeing people refer to
>> *MEMBERS* of a PMC
as
>> "PMCs".
>>
>> PMC stands for Project Management Committee.
>>
>> You have MEMBERS of that PMC.
>>
>> People are never to be called a PMC, nor a group of them as
>> PMCs. People
>> are not committees. The acronym "PMC" is short for a
>> committee, not a
>> person.
>>
>> Please stop the confusion. Teach the community how to use
>> the proper
terms.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>
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