Mark Thomas wrote on 5/10/19 4:22 PM: > On 10/05/2019 20:55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> Yes, I have a lot to learn — for example, I don’t know nor care about the >> sexual or gender orientation of anyone in the Apache community where I’m >> focused on: Apache NetBeans. >> >> Can you simply explain why any of this matters, when I cannot possibly >> discriminate against anyone’s sexual or gender orientation since code and >> coding do not reflect or express these orientations in any way
True, but code is not the most important question: community is. It's a cornerstone of the Apache Way, and is both a widely used catchphrase across the ASF as well as being specifically documented: https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html > If all contributions at the ASF were anonymous that would be true. But > they are not. Project communities are made of of people. Long-term project longevity relies on attracting new people to contribute to our projects: yes, they bring code, but they also improve the community. > A couple of things to consider: > > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/women-considered-better-coders-hide-gender-github The underlying study from 2016 is thorough and has disappointing data: https://peerj.com/articles/cs-111/ > Google "Unconscious bias" A great Monktoberfest conference talk addressed this very same issue - in a small scale, but with some very specific results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ17en7-MwY&list=PLvsKqlNNP3R8HobEa53Noe7xcDJFg0dop&index=5 ...snip... > I don't want anyone to feel unwelcome at the ASF. If there are things I > can do to make other people feel more welcome then I want to find out > about them. Bonus Monktoberfest talk I found useful: Better Living Through Empathy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcpVs-7d6Ys -- - Shane Member The Apache Software Foundation --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: diversity-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: diversity-h...@apache.org