Mark Thomas wrote on 5/10/19 4:22 PM:
> On 10/05/2019 20:55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> Yes, I have a lot to learn — for example, I don’t know nor care about the
>> sexual or gender orientation of anyone in the Apache community where I’m
>> focused on: Apache NetBeans.
>>
>> Can you simply explain why any of this matters, when I cannot possibly
>> discriminate against anyone’s sexual or gender orientation since code and
>> coding do not reflect or express these orientations in any way

True, but code is not the most important question: community is.  It's a
cornerstone of the Apache Way, and is both a widely used catchphrase
across the ASF as well as being specifically documented:

  https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

> If all contributions at the ASF were anonymous that would be true. But
> they are not.

Project communities are made of of people.  Long-term project longevity
relies on attracting new people to contribute to our projects: yes, they
bring code, but they also improve the community.

> A couple of things to consider:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/women-considered-better-coders-hide-gender-github

The underlying study from 2016 is thorough and has disappointing data:

  https://peerj.com/articles/cs-111/

> Google "Unconscious bias"

A great Monktoberfest conference talk addressed this very same issue -
in a small scale, but with some very specific results:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ17en7-MwY&list=PLvsKqlNNP3R8HobEa53Noe7xcDJFg0dop&index=5

...snip...
> I don't want anyone to feel unwelcome at the ASF. If there are things I
> can do to make other people feel more welcome then I want to find out
> about them.

Bonus Monktoberfest talk I found useful: Better Living Through Empathy

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcpVs-7d6Ys

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- Shane
  Member
  The Apache Software Foundation

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