David, I've filed a backport PR for KAFKA-17587 which reorganizes some test code. This will help reduce friction when backporting integration test changes from trunk. The risk of this PR is very minimal since it only affects test sources. Let me know what you think.
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18694 -David A On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:07 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > Hey Colin -- yes, we have a blocker to bump the stable metadata versions > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18611. I can open that today > or > so. > > Justine > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:55 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi David, > > > > We have two blockers for ELR: > > > > - KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in ELR mode > > - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues > > > > They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the next few > > days. > > > > Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and KIP-1075 in > > Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and IBP_4_0_IV3 > > as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump those > > metadata versions to 4.1. > > > > best, > > Colin > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached > > > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. > > > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > David > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Matthias, > > >> > > >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> David > > >> > > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > > >> > > > >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to > > >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add a > > >> > WARN log for it via: > > >> > > > >> > - > > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > > >> > - > > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > > >> > > > >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option > and > > >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when > the > > >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > > >> > > > >> > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 > for > > the > > >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this > ticket? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -Matthias > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > > >> > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan > > [1] > > >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept > > >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the > > planned > > >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take > a > > >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > > >> > > > > >> > > [1] > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >> > > > > >> > > Best, > > >> > > David > > >> > > > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya < > > divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Hey David > > >> > >> > > >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at > > flaky/failing > > >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them > > this week. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> [1] > > >> > >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > >> > > >> > >> -- > > >> > >> Divij Vaidya > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must > > fix in 4.0. > > >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the > > suggested way > > >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Thanks, > > >> > >>> David > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>> hi DJ > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > > >> > >>>> ) > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> Best, > > >> > >>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 > > 下午3:53寫道： > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > > >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be > > possible to > > >> > >>>> already > > >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests? > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > > >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably > small. > > >> > >>> Hence, I > > >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but > before > > the > > >> > >>> code > > >> > >>>>> freeze. > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>> David > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > chia7...@apache.org> > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> hi David > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported > > public > > >> > >>>> API > > >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is > > necessary? > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> thanks, > > >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big > chunks > > of > > >> > >>> your > > >> > >>>>>> KIPs > > >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the > > release > > >> > >>>> branch > > >> > >>>>> on > > >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, > > please > > >> > >>>>>> reachout > > >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the > KIPs > > >> > >>> which > > >> > >>>>> are > > >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me > > that > > >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large > > change > > >> > >>>> for > > >> > >>>>>> after > > >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have > > a way > > >> > >>>> back > > >> > >>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> Luke: > > >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait > for > > >> > >>> Ismael. > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe < > > cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 > > >> > >>>> (PreVote) > > >> > >>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>> two > > >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote > > RPC > > >> > >>>>>> includes > > >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > > >> > >>> internal > > >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective > > >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > > >> > >>>>> deprecation > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is > now > > >> > >>>>> accepted > > >> > >>>>>>>> and I > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > > >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to > > >> > >>>> Log4j2. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now > > >> > >>>> almost > > >> > >>>>>> ready. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 > > 週二 > > >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道： > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > > >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > > >> > >>> into > > >> > >>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not > > >> > >>> contain > > >> > >>>>> any > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs > > >> > >>>> too. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 > > >> > >>>> to > > >> > >>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > > >> > >>> postpone > > >> > >>>>>> doing > > >> > >>>>>>>> it > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > > >> > >>>> ConfgCommand > > >> > >>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>> avoid > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > > >> > >>>>>> deadline > > >> > >>>>>>>> is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > > >> > >>>> will > > >> > >>>>>> wait > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> until > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status > > >> > >>>> of > > >> > >>>>>> your > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > > >> > >>>>> 11th. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for > > >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > > >> > >>>>>>>> but > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? > > >> > >>>>> Ideally, > > >> > >>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> should > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > > >> > >>> do > > >> > >>>>>> it, we > > >> > >>>>>>>> may > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > > >> > >>>> Selenge > > >> > >>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > > >> > >>>> now > > >> > >>>>>>>> passed > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > > >> > >>> anymore. > > >> > >>>>>> Can we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > > >> > >>>>> Selenge < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > > >> > >>>>>> extension for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > > >> > >>> AdminClient. > > >> > >>>>>> This is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > > >> > >>>>>> because > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > > >> > >>>> way > > >> > >>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > > >> > >>>>>> down/fenced. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > > >> > >>>>>> month and > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> has > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > > >> > >>>> have > > >> > >>>>>>>> raised a > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > > >> > >>>> and > > >> > >>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > > >> > >>> include > > >> > >>>>> it > > >> > >>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > > >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > > >> > >>> to > > >> > >>>>>> make > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > > >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > > >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > >> > >>>>>>>> ? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > > >> > >>> Vaidya > > >> > >>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > > >> > >>>> extension > > >> > >>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > > >> > >>>> some > > >> > >>>>>> new > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > > >> > >>>>>> incompatible > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > > >> > >>> release > > >> > >>>>>> them > > >> > >>>>>>>> would > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > > >> > >>>>> minute > > >> > >>>>>> very > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > > >> > >>>> Kafka > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > > >> > >>>> for > > >> > >>>>>> 4.0 > > >> > >>>>>>>> even > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > > >> > >>> Jacot > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > > >> > >>>>>> freeze is > > >> > >>>>>>>> on > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > > >> > >>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > > >> > >>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > > >> > >>> a > > >> > >>>>>> voting > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > > >> > >>> Chen > > >> > >>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > > >> > >>>> plan. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > > >> > >>>>> Huang > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > > >> > >>>>> manager > > >> > >>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > > >> > >>> listed, > > >> > >>>>>> can I > > >> > >>>>>>>> edit > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > > >> > >>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>> McCabe < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > > >> > >>>> is. > > >> > >>>>>>>> November > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > > >> > >>> make > > >> > >>>> it > > >> > >>>>>> into > > >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > > >> > >>> ready > > >> > >>>>> by > > >> > >>>>>>>> feature > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > > >> > >>>> TengYao > > >> > >>>>>> Chi > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > > >> > >>> inclusion > > >> > >>>>> of > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > > >> > >>>>>> believe it > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> will > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > > >> > >>>> and > > >> > >>>>>> Kafka > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > > >> > >>>>> addition. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > >>> 於 > > >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > > >> > >>>> there's > > >> > >>>>> a > > >> > >>>>>> JIRA > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > > >> > >>>> David > > >> > >>>>>> Jacot > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > > >> > >>> it > > >> > >>>>>> include > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > > >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > > >> > >>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > > >> > >>>>>> tasks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > > >> > >>>>> January. > > >> > >>>>>>>> (Well > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > > >> > >>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > > >> > >>> that > > >> > >>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>> should > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > > >> > >>> should > > >> > >>>>>> ensure > > >> > >>>>>>>> that > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > > >> > >>>> code > > >> > >>>>>>>> freeze. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > > >> > >>> with > > >> > >>>>>> all the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > > >> > >>>>>> already > > >> > >>>>>>>> have > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > > >> > >>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > > >> > >>>> me. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > > >> > >>>>>> release > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > > >> > >>>> criteria > > >> > >>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>> it? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > > >> > >>>> like, > > >> > >>>>>> when > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > > >> > >>>>> removal > > >> > >>>>>>>> tasks > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > > >> > >>> of > > >> > >>>>>> codes in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > > >> > >>>> to > > >> > >>>>> ZK > > >> > >>>>>>>> open > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > > >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > > >> > >>> time-based > > >> > >>>>>>>> management > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > > >> > >>> tasks > > >> > >>>>> and > > >> > >>>>>>>> track > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > > >> > >>>>> with > > >> > >>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > > >> > >>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > > >> > >>> plan > > >> > >>>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>> Apache > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > > >> > >>>>> know > > >> > >>>>>> what > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> you > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > > >> > >>>> you > > >> > >>>>>> could > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > > >> > >>>> took > > >> > >>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > > >> > >>> that > > >> > >>>>> the > > >> > >>>>>>>> list is > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > >> > >>> 5:02 AM > > >> > >>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > > >> > >>>> change > > >> > >>>>>>>> release, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > > >> > >>> manager?) > > >> > >>>>> to > > >> > >>>>>>>> help on > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > >> > >>>> 1:33 AM > > >> > >>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > > >> > >>>> 10:11, > > >> > >>>>>> Chris > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > >> > >>> 13:07 > > >> > >>>>> José > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > > >> > >>> volunteering > > >> > >>>>>> David! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > >> > >>>>>> volunteering! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > > >> > >>>>>> 19:27, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > > >> > >>> at > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > > >> > >>>> for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > > >> > >>> 2024 > > >> > >>>> at > > >> > 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> >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > > > > -- David Arthur
