Hello, quick update, there are 2 new blockers related to the new consumer threading model:
- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18645 -> PR already available in review - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18641 -> Expecting a PR soon Best, Lianet On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 6:55 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > Just as an update, we found a new blocker related to ELR, and the PR to > fix it is under review. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18649 > > best, > Colin > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, at 10:08, Greg Harris wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I just backported > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/KAFKA/issues/KAFKA-17792 to 4.0. > > It resolves an out-of-memory scenario for Connect. > > > > Thanks! > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 9:33 AM Justine Olshan > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > > wrote: > > > >> Hey folks, > >> I've found what I believe to be a performance regression that was > caused by > >> my last bugfix. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18654 > >> I'm hoping to get a PR open today and get the benchmark tests to verify > >> things are working as expected. I will keep this thread updated if there > >> are any risks for KIP-890 for the release. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Justine > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 10:55 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > David, I've filed a backport PR for KAFKA-17587 which reorganizes some > >> test > >> > code. This will help reduce friction when backporting integration test > >> > changes from trunk. The risk of this PR is very minimal since it only > >> > affects test sources. Let me know what you think. > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18694 > >> > > >> > -David A > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:07 PM Justine Olshan > >> > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hey Colin -- yes, we have a blocker to bump the stable metadata > >> versions > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18611. I can open that > >> today > >> > > or > >> > > so. > >> > > > >> > > Justine > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:55 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hi David, > >> > > > > >> > > > We have two blockers for ELR: > >> > > > > >> > > > - KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in > ELR > >> > mode > >> > > > - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues > >> > > > > >> > > > They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the > next > >> > few > >> > > > days. > >> > > > > >> > > > Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and > KIP-1075 > >> in > >> > > > Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and > >> > IBP_4_0_IV3 > >> > > > as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump > those > >> > > > metadata versions to 4.1. > >> > > > > >> > > > best, > >> > > > Colin > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote: > >> > > > > Hi all, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers > >> > attached > >> > > > > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real > blockers. > >> > > > > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > David > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot < > david.ja...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Hi Matthias, > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you > >> suggested. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Best, > >> > > > >> David > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax < > mj...@apache.org > >> > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes > to > >> > > > >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we > did > >> > add a > >> > > > >> > WARN log for it via: > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > >> > > > >> > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the > >> option > >> > > and > >> > > > >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" > >> when > >> > > the > >> > > > >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Should we link > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 > >> > > for > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with > this > >> > > ticket? > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -Matthias > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hi all, > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the > release > >> > plan > >> > > > [1] > >> > > > >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I > have > >> > kept > >> > > > >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in > the > >> > > > planned > >> > > > >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. > Please > >> > take > >> > > a > >> > > > >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > [1] > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > > >> > > David > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya < > >> > > > divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hey David > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at > >> > > > flaky/failing > >> > > > >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge > >> them > >> > > > this week. > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> [1] > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -- > >> > > > >> > >> Divij Vaidya > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot > >> > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that > we > >> > must > >> > > > fix in 4.0. > >> > > > >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about > the > >> > > > suggested way > >> > > > >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> > >>> Thanks, > >> > > > >> > >>> David > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai < > >> > > > chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> hi DJ > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > >> > > > >> > >>>> ) > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>> Chia-Ping > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 > 2024年12月13日 週五 > >> > > > 下午3:53寫道: > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be > >> > > > possible to > >> > > > >> > >>>> already > >> > > > >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system > >> > tests? > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem > reasonably > >> > > small. > >> > > > >> > >>> Hence, I > >> > > > >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze > but > >> > > before > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > >>> code > >> > > > >> > >>>>> freeze. > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai < > >> > > > chia7...@apache.org> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> hi David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an > >> > unsupported > >> > > > public > >> > > > >> > >>>> API > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick > KIP is > >> > > > necessary? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> thanks, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the > big > >> > > chunks > >> > > > of > >> > > > >> > >>> your > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> KIPs > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut > the > >> > > > release > >> > > > >> > >>>> branch > >> > > > >> > >>>>> on > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot > make > >> it, > >> > > > please > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> reachout > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove > >> the > >> > > KIPs > >> > > > >> > >>> which > >> > > > >> > >>>>> are > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It > seems to > >> > me > >> > > > that > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty > >> > large > >> > > > change > >> > > > >> > >>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> after > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do > we > >> > have > >> > > > a way > >> > > > >> > >>>> back > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Luke: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's > >> wait > >> > > for > >> > > > >> > >>> Ismael. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe < > >> > > > cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in > >> > KIP-996 > >> > > > >> > >>>> (PreVote) > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> two > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807 > > > >> > (Vote > >> > > > RPC > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> includes > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> > >> (new > >> > > > >> > >>> internal > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one > >> method > >> > > > >> > >>>>> deprecation > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. > It > >> is > >> > > now > >> > > > >> > >>>>> accepted > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> and I > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > >> > > > >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade > Log4j > >> > to > >> > > > >> > >>>> Log4j2. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the > PR is > >> > now > >> > > > >> > >>>> almost > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> ready. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 > >> > 2024年11月26日 > >> > > > 週二 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > >> > > > >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned > >> above > >> > > > >> > >>> into > >> > > > >> > >>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does > not > >> > > > >> > >>> contain > >> > > > >> > >>>>> any > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other > accepted > >> > KIPs > >> > > > >> > >>>> too. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add > >> > KIP-1011 > >> > > > >> > >>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, > after > >> > > > >> > >>> postpone > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> doing > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > >> > > > >> > >>>> ConfgCommand > >> > > > >> > >>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> avoid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > >> freeze > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> deadline > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be > accepted, > >> I > >> > > > >> > >>>> will > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> wait > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> until > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the > >> status > >> > > > >> > >>>> of > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> your > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on > >> Dec > >> > > > >> > >>>>> 11th. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David > Jacot < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception > >> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> but > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close > it? > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Ideally, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> should > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we > >> cannot > >> > > > >> > >>> do > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> it, we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> may > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen > < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release > plan. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > >> > > > >> > >>>> Selenge > >> > > > >> > >>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous > email > >> has > >> > > > >> > >>>> now > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> passed > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > >> > > > >> > >>> anymore. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Can we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM > Gantigmaa > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Selenge < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an > exceptional > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> extension for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > >> > > > >> > >>> AdminClient. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> This is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft > >> cluster, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> because > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there > is > >> no > >> > > > >> > >>>> way > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> down/fenced. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for > >> over a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> month and > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> has > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I > >> also > >> > > > >> > >>>> have > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> raised a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more > binding > >> +1 > >> > > > >> > >>>> and > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > >> > > > >> > >>> include > >> > > > >> > >>>>> it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > >> > > > >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke > >> Chen < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into > >> v4.0.0 > >> > > > >> > >>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> make > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it > >> until > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> ? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > >> > > > >> > >>> Vaidya > >> > > > >> > >>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > >> > > > >> > >>>> extension > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and > add > >> > > > >> > >>>> some > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> new > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are > backward > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> incompatible > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > >> > > > >> > >>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> them > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> would > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed > last > >> > > > >> > >>>>> minute > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> very > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational > load of > >> > > > >> > >>>> Kafka > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider > this > >> KIP > >> > > > >> > >>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 4.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> even > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > >> > > > >> > >>> Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the > >> KIP > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> freeze is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> on > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke > >> Chen > >> > > > >> > >>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release > >> plan. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM > Kamal > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and > KIP-1105 > >> to > >> > > > >> > >>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are > >> ready. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will > >> open > >> > > > >> > >>> a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> voting > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM > Luke > >> > > > >> > >>> Chen > >> > > > >> > >>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the > release > >> > > > >> > >>>> plan. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM > >> Alyssa > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Huang > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the > release > >> > > > >> > >>>>> manager > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > >> > > > >> > >>> listed, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> can I > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> edit > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > >> > > > >> > >>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> McCabe < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka > >> 4.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>> is. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> November > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it > should > >> > > > >> > >>> make > >> > > > >> > >>>> it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> into > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code > is > >> > > > >> > >>> ready > >> > > > >> > >>>>> by > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> feature > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > >> > > > >> > >>>> TengYao > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Chi > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > >> > > > >> > >>> inclusion > >> > > > >> > >>>>> of > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, > and I > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> believe it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> will > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the > >> Consumer > >> > > > >> > >>>> and > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Kafka > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > >> > > > >> > >>>>> addition. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe < > cmcc...@apache.org > >> > > >> > > > >> > >>> 於 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > >> > > > >> > >>>> there's > >> > > > >> > >>>>> a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> JIRA > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at > 09:11, > >> > > > >> > >>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. > >> Does > >> > > > >> > >>> it > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> include > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at > 6:06 PM > >> > > > >> > >>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK > >> removal > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> tasks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there > by > >> > > > >> > >>>>> January. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> (Well > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at > >> 05:55, > >> > > > >> > >>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I > think > >> > > > >> > >>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> should > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > >> > > > >> > >>> should > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> ensure > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in > 4.0 > >> by > >> > > > >> > >>>> code > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the > removal > >> > > > >> > >>> with > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> all the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. > We > >> may > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> already > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> have > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at > >> 2:43 PM > >> > > > >> > >>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks > good > >> to > >> > > > >> > >>>> me. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release > >> is a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > >> > > > >> > >>>> criteria > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> it? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can > imagine is > >> > > > >> > >>>> like, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> when > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many > ZK > >> > > > >> > >>>>> removal > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> tasks > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the > rest > >> > > > >> > >>> of > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> codes in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs > >> related > >> > > > >> > >>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>> ZK > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> open > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: > The > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > >> > > > >> > >>> time-based > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> management > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some > "must-do" > >> > > > >> > >>> tasks > >> > > > >> > >>>>> and > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> track > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can > >> discuss > >> > > > >> > >>>>> with > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make > sense? > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at > >> 9:29 PM > >> > > > >> > >>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the > release > >> > > > >> > >>> plan > >> > > > >> > >>>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Apache > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and > let > >> me > >> > > > >> > >>>>> know > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> what > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> you > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate > it > >> if > >> > > > >> > >>>> you > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> could > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this > release. > >> I > >> > > > >> > >>>> took > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty > sure > >> > > > >> > >>> that > >> > > > >> > >>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list is > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > >> > > > >> > >>> 5:02 AM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a > huge > >> > > > >> > >>>> change > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > >> > > > >> > >>> manager?) > >> > > > >> > >>>>> to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> help on > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to > >> help. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > >> > > > >> > >>>> 1:33 AM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > at > >> > > > >> > >>>> 10:11, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> Chris > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > >> > > > >> > >>> 13:07 > >> > > > >> > >>>>> José > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > >> > > > >> > >>> volunteering > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> David! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > 2024 at > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > 2024 > >> at > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> volunteering! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept > 2024 > >> at > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 19:27, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > >> 2024, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > >> 2024 > >> > > > >> > >>> at > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks > >> David > >> > > > >> > >>>> for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David > for > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep > 23, > >> > > > >> > >>> 2024 > >> > > > >> > >>>> at > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like > to > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - > Apache > >> > > > >> > >>>> Kafka > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are > no > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next > >> couple > >> > > > >> > >>>> of > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > > > >> > 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