hi David Sorry for the unclear description in the previous version. I have updated the Jira ticket :)
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627 Thanks, Chia-Ping On 2025/01/23 13:43:31 David Jacot wrote: > Hi Chia-Ping, > > Could you please extend the description of > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627 to explain why we need to > do this? It is hard to understand the need in the current state. > > Hi Luke, > > I will take a look at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18230. > > Best, > David > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 8:35 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi David, > > > > +1 for adding KAFKA-18627 > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627> in v4.0.0. > > > > Besides, I'd also like to ask if we can include KAFKA-18230 > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18230> into v4.0.0? > > The impact of KAFKA-18230 > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18230> is that the admin > > client will fail to work if the active controller changed. That affects > > some applications that will create 1 admin client at first and use it for > > all the admin tasks. The change is low risk with only 10 lines of change + > > many tests. > > > > Thank you. > > Luke > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:15 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > hi David > > > > > > Could you please take a look at > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627? This JIRA ticket > > > introduces a new system environment variable and (possibly) deprecates > > the > > > old one. Is it appropriate to include this change in 4.0? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chia-Ping > > > > > > On 2025/01/20 11:55:24 David Jacot wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached > > > > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. > > > > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthias, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > > > > > > > > > > > > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to > > > > > > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add > > a > > > > > > WARN log for it via: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > > > > > > > > > > > > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option > > > and > > > > > > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when > > > the > > > > > > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 > > > for the > > > > > > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this > > > ticket? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release > > plan > > > [1] > > > > > > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have > > kept > > > > > > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the > > > planned > > > > > > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please > > take a > > > > > > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya < > > > divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hey David > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at > > > flaky/failing > > > > > > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them > > > this week. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> [1] > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > >> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must > > > fix in 4.0. > > > > > > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the > > > suggested way > > > > > > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > >>> David > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > > chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> hi DJ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > > > > > > >>>> ) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 > > > 下午3:53寫道： > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > > > > > > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be > > > possible to > > > > > > >>>> already > > > > > > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system > > tests? > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably > > > small. > > > > > > >>> Hence, I > > > > > > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but > > > before the > > > > > > >>> code > > > > > > >>>>> freeze. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > > > > > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > > chia7...@apache.org> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> hi David > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an > > unsupported > > > public > > > > > > >>>> API > > > > > > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is > > > necessary? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> thanks, > > > > > > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big > > > chunks of > > > > > > >>> your > > > > > > >>>>>> KIPs > > > > > > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the > > > release > > > > > > >>>> branch > > > > > > >>>>> on > > > > > > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, > > > please > > > > > > >>>>>> reachout > > > > > > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the > > > KIPs > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > >>>>> are > > > > > > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me > > > that > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large > > > change > > > > > > >>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>> after > > > > > > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we > > have > > > a way > > > > > > >>>> back > > > > > > >>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks! > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Luke: > > > > > > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait > > for > > > > > > >>> Ismael. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe < > > > cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 > > > > > > >>>> (PreVote) > > > > > > >>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>> two > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> > > (Vote > > > RPC > > > > > > >>>>>> includes > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > > > > > > >>> internal > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Prospective > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > > > > > > >>>>> deprecation > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is > > > now > > > > > > >>>>> accepted > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and I > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > > > > > > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to > > > > > > >>>> Log4j2. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is > > now > > > > > > >>>> almost > > > > > > >>>>>> ready. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 > > 2024年11月26日 > > > 週二 > > > > > > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道： > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > > > > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > > > > > > >>> into > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > > > > > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not > > > > > > >>> contain > > > > > > >>>>> any > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs > > > > > > >>>> too. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > > > > > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 > > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > > > > > > >>> postpone > > > > > > >>>>>> doing > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > > > > > > >>>> ConfgCommand > > > > > > >>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> avoid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > > > > > > >>>>>> deadline > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > > > > > > >>>> will > > > > > > >>>>>> wait > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> until > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status > > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>> your > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > > > > > > >>>>> 11th. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for > > > > > > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? > > > > > > >>>>> Ideally, > > > > > > >>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> should > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > > > > > > >>> do > > > > > > >>>>>> it, we > > > > > > >>>>>>>> may > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > > > > > > >>>> Selenge > > > > > > >>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > > > > > > >>>> now > > > > > > >>>>>>>> passed > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > > > > > > >>> anymore. > > > > > > >>>>>> Can we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> please > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > > > > > > >>>>> Selenge < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > > > > > > >>>>>> extension for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > > > > > > >>> AdminClient. > > > > > > >>>>>> This is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > > > > > > >>>>>> because > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > > > > > > >>>> way > > > > > > >>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > > > > > > >>>>>> down/fenced. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > > > > > > >>>>>> month and > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> has > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>>>>>> raised a > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > > > > > > >>> include > > > > > > >>>>> it > > > > > > >>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > > > > > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> make > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > > > > > > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > > > > > > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > > > > > > >>> Vaidya > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > > > > > > >>>> extension > > > > > > >>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > > > > > > >>>> some > > > > > > >>>>>> new > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > > > > > > >>>>>> incompatible > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > > > > > > >>> release > > > > > > >>>>>> them > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > > > > > > >>>>> minute > > > > > > >>>>>> very > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> close > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > > > > > > >>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> even > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > > > > > > >>> Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze is > > > > > > >>>>>>>> on > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > > > > > > >>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > > > > > > >>> a > > > > > > >>>>>> voting > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thread > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > > > > > > >>> Chen > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > > > > > > >>>> plan. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > > > > > > >>>>> Huang > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > > > > > > >>>>> manager > > > > > > >>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > > > > > > >>> listed, > > > > > > >>>>>> can I > > > > > > >>>>>>>> edit > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > > > > > > >>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>> McCabe < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > > > > > > >>>> is. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> November > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > > > > > > >>> make > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > >>>>>> into > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > > > > > > >>> ready > > > > > > >>>>> by > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feature > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > > > > > > >>>> TengYao > > > > > > >>>>>> Chi > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > > > > > > >>> inclusion > > > > > > >>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > > > > > > >>>>>> believe it > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> will > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > >>>>>> Kafka > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > > > > > > >>>>> addition. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > >>> 於 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > > > > > > >>>> there's > > > > > > >>>>> a > > > > > > >>>>>> JIRA > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > > > > > > >>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > >>>>>> include > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > > > > > > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > > > > > > >>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > > > > > > >>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > > > > > > >>>>> January. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (Well > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > > > > > > >>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > > > > > > >>> that > > > > > > >>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>> should > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > > > > > > >>> should > > > > > > >>>>>> ensure > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > > > > > > >>>> code > > > > > > >>>>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > > > > > > >>> with > > > > > > >>>>>> all the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > > > > > > >>>>>> already > > > > > > >>>>>>>> have > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > > > > > > >>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chen < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > > > > > > >>>> me. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > > > > > > >>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> without > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > > > > > > >>>> criteria > > > > > > >>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > > > > > > >>>> like, > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > > > > > > >>>>> removal > > > > > > >>>>>>>> tasks > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>>> codes in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> later > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > > >>>>> ZK > > > > > > >>>>>>>> open > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > > > > > > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > > > > > > >>> time-based > > > > > > >>>>>>>> management > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > > > > > > >>> tasks > > > > > > >>>>> and > > > > > > >>>>>>>> track > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > > > > > > >>>>> with > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > > > > > > >>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > > > > > > >>> plan > > > > > > >>>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > > > > > > >>>>> know > > > > > > >>>>>> what > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> you > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > > > > > > >>>> you > > > > > > >>>>>> could > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > > > > > > >>>> took > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > > > > > > >>> that > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > > > > > >>> 5:02 AM > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chen > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > > > > > > >>>> change > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > > > > > > >>> manager?) > > > > > > >>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> help on > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > > > > > >>>> 1:33 AM > > > > > > >>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > > > > > > >>>> 10:11, > > > > > > >>>>>> Chris > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > > > > > >>> 13:07 > > > > > > >>>>> José > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > > > > > > >>> volunteering > > > > > > >>>>>> David! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > > > > >>>>>> volunteering! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > > > > > > >>>>>> 19:27, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > > > > > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > > > > > > >>> at > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > > > > > > >>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > > > > > > >>> 2024 > > > > > > >>>> at > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple > > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source > > > > > > >>>> Engineering > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>> josep.p...@aiven.io > > > > > > >>>>> | > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland > > > > > > >>>>> GmbH* > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, > > > > > > >>>>> 10117 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: > > > > > > >>>> Oskari > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, > > > > > > >>>>> Kenneth > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottenburg, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HRB > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 209739 > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B > > > > > > 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