Hi all, As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan [1] and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the planned KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything.
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 Best, David On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey David > > About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at flaky/failing > tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them this week. > > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > -- > Divij Vaidya > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > wrote: > > > Hi Chia-Ping, > > > > Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must fix in 4.0. > > I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the suggested way > > forward. I agree with the proposal. > > > > Thanks, > > David > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > hi DJ > > > > > > I have merged the PR ( > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > > > ) > > > > > > will keep testing the related e2e > > > > > > Best, > > > Chia-Ping > > > > > > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 下午3:53寫道: > > > > > > > Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > > > > Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be possible to > > > already > > > > merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests? > > > > > > > > Hi Calvin, > > > > Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small. > > Hence, I > > > > have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before the > > code > > > > freeze. > > > > > > > > Hi Chia-Ping, > > > > Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > hi David > > > > > > > > > > I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public > > > API > > > > > in KRaft mode. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary? > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Chia-Ping > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of > > your > > > > > KIPs > > > > > > must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release > > > branch > > > > on > > > > > > Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please > > > > > reachout > > > > > > to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs > > which > > > > are > > > > > > not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alyssa/Colin: > > > > > > Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that > > > > > > https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change > > > for > > > > > after > > > > > > the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way > > > back > > > > > in > > > > > > case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew/Divij: > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Luke: > > > > > > Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for > > Ismael. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey David and folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 > > > (PreVote) > > > > > in > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > > > > > > > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC > > > > > includes > > > > > > > > PreVote field) by feature freeze > > > > > > > > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > > internal > > > > > > > Prospective > > > > > > > > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Alyssa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > > > > > > > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi David, > > > > > > > >> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > > > > deprecation > > > > > > > >> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > > >> Andrew > > > > > > > >> ________________________________________ > > > > > > > >> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > > > > > > >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hey David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now > > > > accepted > > > > > > > and I > > > > > > > >> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> [1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > >> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > > > kiting...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Hello David, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to > > > Log4j2. > > > > > > > >> > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now > > > almost > > > > > ready. > > > > > > > >> > I’m currently working on it. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Best regards, > > > > > > > >> > TengYao > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 > > > > > 下午4:23寫道: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Thanks, Luke! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > > > > > > >> > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > > into > > > > the > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > >> > > plan, > > > > > > > >> > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > > > > > > david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not > > contain > > > > any > > > > > > > >> > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs > > > too. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > > > > > > david.ja...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > > > > > > >> > > dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> release > > > > > > > >> > > > plan > > > > > > > >> > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > > postpone > > > > > doing > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > >> we > > > > > > > >> > > can > > > > > > > >> > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > > > ConfgCommand > > > > to > > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > > >> > > making > > > > > > > >> > > > > our code dirty. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ziming > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > > > > > > >> > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > > > > > deadline > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > >> > > today. > > > > > > > >> > > > > As we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > > > will > > > > > wait > > > > > > > >> until > > > > > > > >> > > > > Monday to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status > > > of > > > > > your > > > > > > > >> KIPs. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > > > > 11th. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > > > > > > >> > > dja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Divij, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for > > > > > KIP-1030 > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > >> we > > > > > > > >> > > > > cannot wait > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it? > > > > Ideally, > > > > > we > > > > > > > >> should > > > > > > > >> > > aim > > > > > > > >> > > > > for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > > do > > > > > it, we > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > >> > > have > > > > > > > >> > > > to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> BR, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > > > > > >> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > > > Selenge > > > > < > > > > > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > > > now > > > > > > > passed > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > voting so > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension > > anymore. > > > > > Can we > > > > > > > >> > please > > > > > > > >> > > > > include > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the release plan? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Thank you. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Tina > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > > > > Selenge < > > > > > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > > > > > extension for > > > > > > > >> > > KIP-1073 > > > > > > > >> > > > > [1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > > AdminClient. > > > > > This is > > > > > > > >> > > > > particularly > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > > > > > because > > > > > > > >> > brokers > > > > > > > >> > > > > need to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> be > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > >> > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > brokers > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > > > > > down/fenced. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > > > > > month and > > > > > > > >> has > > > > > > > >> > > > > currently 2 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > > > have > > > > > > > raised a > > > > > > > >> > > draft > > > > > > > >> > > > > PR for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3]. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > implementation is > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > > include > > > > it > > > > > in > > > > > > > >> 4.0.0. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [2] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [3] > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Tina > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > > > > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > > to > > > > > make > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > kafka > > > > > > > >> > > > > default > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> value > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > > > > > v5.0.0. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > > > > > dja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > > Vaidya > > > < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > > > extension > > > > > for > > > > > > > >> > KIP-1030 > > > > > > > >> > > > [1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> aims > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > > > some > > > > > new > > > > > > > >> > > constraints > > > > > > > >> > > > > for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> our > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > > > > > incompatible > > > > > > > >> > > changes, > > > > > > > >> > > > > if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> they > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > > release > > > > > them > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > >> > be > > > > > > > >> > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > next > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> major > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > > > > minute > > > > > very > > > > > > > >> > close > > > > > > > >> > > to > > > > > > > >> > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > > > Kafka > > > > > > > >> > maintenance > > > > > > > >> > > > > this KIP > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> could > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > > > for > > > > > 4.0 > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > >> > > after > > > > > > > >> > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > > Jacot > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > > > > > freeze is > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > >> > 20th > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> November > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > > < > > > > > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > > > > > > Chandraprakash > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > > > the > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > >> > > plan. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > > a > > > > > voting > > > > > > > >> thread > > > > > > > >> > > > soon. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > > Chen > > > < > > > > > > > >> > > > show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > > > plan. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > > > > Huang > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > > > > manager > > > > > for > > > > > > > >> 4.0! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > > listed, > > > > > can I > > > > > > > edit > > > > > > > >> > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> page > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> add > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > > Colin > > > > > McCabe < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > > > is. > > > > > > > November > > > > > > > >> > > 20th. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> So > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > > make > > > it > > > > > into > > > > > > > 4.0 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> without > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> any > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > > ready > > > > by > > > > > > > feature > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> freeze.) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > > > TengYao > > > > > Chi > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > > inclusion > > > > of > > > > > > > >> KIP-1092 > > > > > > > >> > in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > > > > > believe it > > > > > > > >> will > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> bring > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > > > and > > > > > Kafka > > > > > > > >> > Streams > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > > > > addition. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > 於 > > > > > > > 2024年10月11日 > > > > > > > >> > 週五 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > > > there's > > > > a > > > > > JIRA > > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > > > David > > > > > Jacot > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > > it > > > > > include > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> removing > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > > > > > kafka-configs)? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > > > Colin > > > > > > > McCabe < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > > > > > tasks. > > > > > > > >> > Progress > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> has > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> been > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > > > > January. > > > > > > > (Well > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> hopefully > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> even > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > > > > David > > > > > > > Jacot > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > > that > > > > we > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> try to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > > should > > > > > ensure > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > >> > ZK > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> all > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > > > code > > > > > > > freeze. > > > > > > > >> > The > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > > with > > > > > all the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> related > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > > > > > already > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> one. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Let > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> me > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > > > > Luke > > > > > > > Chen < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > > > me. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > > > > > release > > > > > > > >> > without > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> ZK, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > > > criteria > > > > > for > > > > > > > it? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > > > like, > > > > > when > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> code > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > > > > removal > > > > > > > tasks > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> open, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> what > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > > of > > > > > codes in > > > > > > > >> > later > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > > > to > > > > ZK > > > > > > > open > > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> users to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > > > > > `--zookeeper` > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> option > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > > time-based > > > > > > > management > > > > > > > >> > in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > > tasks > > > > and > > > > > > > track > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> them > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> community > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > > > > David > > > > > > > Jacot > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > > plan > > > > for > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> . > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > > > > know > > > > > what > > > > > > > >> you > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> think. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > > > you > > > > > could > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> review > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > > > took > > > > > the > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> from > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > list is > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> not > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > 5:02 AM > > > > > Luke > > > > > > > Chen > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > > > change > > > > > > > release, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I'm > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> not > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > > manager?) > > > > to > > > > > > > help on > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > > 1:33 AM > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> McCabe > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > > > 10:11, > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Egerton > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > 13:07 > > > > José > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Armando > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> García > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > > volunteering > > > > > David! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > 11:56 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > 11:48 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Satish > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > > > volunteering! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > > > > > 19:27, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Lianet > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> M. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > > > > 9:54 a.m. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > > at > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > > > for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> volunteering! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > > 2024 > > > at > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> volunteer > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> to be > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache > > > Kafka > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> objections, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple > > > of > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> days. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source > > > Engineering > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Director, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > josep.p...@aiven.io > > > > | > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland > > > > GmbH* > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, > > > > 10117 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: > > > Oskari > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, > > > > Kenneth > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Chen > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > 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