Hi all,

As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan [1]
and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept
KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the planned
KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a
look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything.

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0

Best,
David

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey David
>
> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at flaky/failing
> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them this week.
>
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
>
> --
> Divij Vaidya
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chia-Ping,
> >
> > Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must fix in 4.0.
> > I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the suggested way
> > forward. I agree with the proposal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hi DJ
> > >
> > > I have merged the PR (
> > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2
> > > )
> > >
> > > will keep testing the related e2e
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Chia-Ping
> > >
> > > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 下午3:53寫道:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping,
> > > > Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be possible to
> > > already
> > > > merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Calvin,
> > > > Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small.
> > Hence, I
> > > > have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before the
> > code
> > > > freeze.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Chia-Ping,
> > > > Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi David
> > > > >
> > > > > I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public
> > > API
> > > > > in KRaft mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > Chia-Ping
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote:
> > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of
> > your
> > > > > KIPs
> > > > > > must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release
> > > branch
> > > > on
> > > > > > Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please
> > > > > reachout
> > > > > > to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs
> > which
> > > > are
> > > > > > not ready from the release plan on Monday too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alyssa/Colin:
> > > > > > Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that
> > > > > > https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change
> > > for
> > > > > after
> > > > > > the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way
> > > back
> > > > > in
> > > > > > case we cannot make it or if we discover issues?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew/Divij:
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Luke:
> > > > > > Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for
> > Ismael.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hey David and folks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996
> > > (PreVote)
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > phases in order to make the 4.0 release.
> > > > > > > > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > PreVote field) by feature freeze
> > > > > > > > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new
> > internal
> > > > > > > Prospective
> > > > > > > > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Alyssa
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 frorm me. What do you think David?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Colin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield <
> > > > > > > > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi David,
> > > > > > > >> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method
> > > > deprecation
> > > > > > > >> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >> Andrew
> > > > > > > >> ________________________________________
> > > > > > > >> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45
> > > > > > > >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org>
> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Hey David
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now
> > > > accepted
> > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > >> have updated the release plan with the KIP.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> Divij Vaidya
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <
> > > kiting...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Hello David,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to
> > > Log4j2.
> > > > > > > >> > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now
> > > almost
> > > > > ready.
> > > > > > > >> > I’m currently working on it.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Best regards,
> > > > > > > >> > TengYao
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二
> > > > > 下午4:23寫道:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > Thanks, Luke!
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <
> > > show...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs.
> > > > > > > >> > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >> > > plan,
> > > > > > > >> > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status.
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <
> > > > > > > david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not
> > contain
> > > > any
> > > > > > > >> > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs
> > > too.
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th.
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > David
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot <
> > > > > > > david.ja...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng <
> > > > > > > >> > > dengziming1...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi David & Luke,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> release
> > > > > > > >> > > > plan
> > > > > > > >> > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after
> > postpone
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > > >> > > can
> > > > > > > >> > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from
> > > ConfgCommand
> > > > to
> > > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > >> > > making
> > > > > > > >> > > > > our code dirty.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ziming
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze
> > > > > deadline
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >> > > today.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > As we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I
> > > will
> > > > > wait
> > > > > > > >> until
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Monday to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status
> > > of
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > >> KIPs.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec
> > > > 11th.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot <
> > > > > > > >> > > dja...@confluent.io>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Divij,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for
> > > > > KIP-1030
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > cannot wait
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it?
> > > > Ideally,
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > > >> > > aim
> > > > > > > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot
> > do
> > > > > it, we
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > >> > > have
> > > > > > > >> > > > to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> BR,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen <
> > > > > > > >> show...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa
> > > Selenge
> > > > <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi David,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has
> > > now
> > > > > > > passed
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > voting so
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension
> > anymore.
> > > > > Can we
> > > > > > > >> > please
> > > > > > > >> > > > > include
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the release plan?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Thank you.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Tina
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa
> > > > Selenge <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional
> > > > > extension for
> > > > > > > >> > > KIP-1073
> > > > > > > >> > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via
> > AdminClient.
> > > > > This is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > particularly
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster,
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > >> > brokers
> > > > > > > >> > > > > need to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no
> > > way
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > brokers
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut
> > > > > down/fenced.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a
> > > > > month and
> > > > > > > >> has
> > > > > > > >> > > > > currently 2
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also
> > > have
> > > > > > > raised a
> > > > > > > >> > > draft
> > > > > > > >> > > > > PR for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3].
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > implementation is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to
> > include
> > > > it
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> 4.0.0.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [3]
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Tina
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <
> > > > > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0
> > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > kafka
> > > > > > > >> > > > > default
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> value
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until
> > > > > v5.0.0.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <
> > > > > dja...@confluent.io>
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij
> > Vaidya
> > > <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional
> > > extension
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> > KIP-1030
> > > > > > > >> > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> aims
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add
> > > some
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > >> > > constraints
> > > > > > > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> our
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward
> > > > > incompatible
> > > > > > > >> > > changes,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> they
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could
> > release
> > > > > them
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > >> > be
> > > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > next
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> major
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last
> > > > minute
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > >> > close
> > > > > > > >> > > to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of
> > > Kafka
> > > > > > > >> > maintenance
> > > > > > > >> > > > > this KIP
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> could
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP
> > > for
> > > > > 4.0
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > >> > > after
> > > > > > > >> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David
> > Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP
> > > > > freeze is
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> > 20th
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> November
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen
> > <
> > > > > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal
> > > > > > > Chandraprakash
> > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to
> > > the
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >> > > plan.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open
> > a
> > > > > voting
> > > > > > > >> thread
> > > > > > > >> > > > soon.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke
> > Chen
> > > <
> > > > > > > >> > > > show...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release
> > > plan.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa
> > > > Huang
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release
> > > > manager
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> 4.0!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote)
> > listed,
> > > > > can I
> > > > > > > edit
> > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> page
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> add
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM
> > Colin
> > > > > McCabe <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0
> > > is.
> > > > > > > November
> > > > > > > >> > > 20th.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> So
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should
> > make
> > > it
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > 4.0
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> without
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> any
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is
> > ready
> > > > by
> > > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> freeze.)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32,
> > > TengYao
> > > > > Chi
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the
> > inclusion
> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> KIP-1092
> > > > > > > >> > in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I
> > > > > believe it
> > > > > > > >> will
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> bring
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer
> > > and
> > > > > Kafka
> > > > > > > >> > Streams
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this
> > > > addition.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> > 於
> > > > > > > 2024年10月11日
> > > > > > > >> > 週五
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe
> > > there's
> > > > a
> > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11,
> > > David
> > > > > Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does
> > it
> > > > > include
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> removing
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g.
> > > > > kafka-configs)?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM
> > > Colin
> > > > > > > McCabe <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal
> > > > > tasks.
> > > > > > > >> > Progress
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> has
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> been
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by
> > > > January.
> > > > > > > (Well
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> hopefully
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> even
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55,
> > > > David
> > > > > > > Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think
> > that
> > > > we
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> try to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we
> > should
> > > > > ensure
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> > ZK
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by
> > > code
> > > > > > > freeze.
> > > > > > > >> > The
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal
> > with
> > > > > all the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> related
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may
> > > > > already
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> one.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Let
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> me
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM
> > > > Luke
> > > > > > > Chen <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to
> > > me.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > >> > without
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> ZK,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release
> > > criteria
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > it?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is
> > > like,
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> code
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK
> > > > removal
> > > > > > > tasks
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> open,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> what
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest
> > of
> > > > > codes in
> > > > > > > >> > later
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related
> > > to
> > > > ZK
> > > > > > > open
> > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> users to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The
> > > > > `--zookeeper`
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> option
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using
> > time-based
> > > > > > > management
> > > > > > > >> > in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do"
> > tasks
> > > > and
> > > > > > > track
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> them
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss
> > > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> community
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
> > > > David
> > > > > > > Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release
> > plan
> > > > for
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Kafka
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> .
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me
> > > > know
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> think.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if
> > > you
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> review
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I
> > > took
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > list is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> not
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> > 5:02 AM
> > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > Chen
> > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge
> > > change
> > > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I'm
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> not
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release
> > manager?)
> > > > to
> > > > > > > help on
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> > > 1:33 AM
> > > > > Colin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> McCabe
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at
> > > 10:11,
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Egerton
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> > 13:07
> > > > José
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Armando
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> García
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for
> > volunteering
> > > > > David!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> > > > > 11:56 AM
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> > > > > 11:48 AM
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Satish
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> > > > > volunteering!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at
> > > > > 19:27,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Lianet
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> M.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> > > > > 9:54 a.m.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024
> > at
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David
> > > for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> volunteering!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23,
> > 2024
> > > at
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> volunteer
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> to be
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache
> > > Kafka
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> objections,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple
> > > of
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> days.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source
> > > Engineering
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Director,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven*
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > josep.p...@aiven.io
> > > >  |
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> |
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland
> > > > GmbH*
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7,
> > > > 10117
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer:
> > > Oskari
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson,
> > > > Kenneth
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Chen
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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