Hi all, We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. Please raise any new blockers in this thread.
Thanks, David On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Matthias, > > Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. > > Best, > David > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > > > > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to > > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add a > > WARN log for it via: > > > > - > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > > - > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > > > > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option and > > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when the > > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > > > > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 for the > > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this ticket? > > > > > > -Matthias > > > > > > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan [1] > > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept > > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the planned > > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a > > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > > > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > Best, > > > David > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hey David > > >> > > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at flaky/failing > > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them this week. > > >> > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Divij Vaidya > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > >>> > > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must fix in > > >>> 4.0. > > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the suggested way > > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> David > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> hi DJ > > >>>> > > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > > >>>> ) > > >>>> > > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > > >>>> > > >>>> Best, > > >>>> Chia-Ping > > >>>> > > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 下午3:53寫道： > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be possible to > > >>>> already > > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small. > > >>> Hence, I > > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before the > > >>> code > > >>>>> freeze. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best, > > >>>>> David > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> hi David > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public > > >>>> API > > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> thanks, > > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of > > >>> your > > >>>>>> KIPs > > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release > > >>>> branch > > >>>>> on > > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please > > >>>>>> reachout > > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs > > >>> which > > >>>>> are > > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that > > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change > > >>>> for > > >>>>>> after > > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way > > >>>> back > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > > >>>>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Luke: > > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for > > >>> Ismael. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 > > >>>> (PreVote) > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>> two > > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC > > >>>>>> includes > > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > > >>> internal > > >>>>>>>> Prospective > > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > > >>>>> deprecation > > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now > > >>>>> accepted > > >>>>>>>> and I > > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to > > >>>> Log4j2. > > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now > > >>>> almost > > >>>>>> ready. > > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 > > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道： > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > > >>> into > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not > > >>> contain > > >>>>> any > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs > > >>>> too. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 > > >>>> to > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > > >>> postpone > > >>>>>> doing > > >>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > > >>>> ConfgCommand > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> avoid > > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > > >>>>>> deadline > > >>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > > >>>> will > > >>>>>> wait > > >>>>>>>>>> until > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status > > >>>> of > > >>>>>> your > > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > > >>>>> 11th. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for > > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > > >>>>>>>> but > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? > > >>>>> Ideally, > > >>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>> should > > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > > >>> do > > >>>>>> it, we > > >>>>>>>> may > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > > >>>> Selenge > > >>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > > >>>> now > > >>>>>>>> passed > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > > >>> anymore. > > >>>>>> Can we > > >>>>>>>>>>> please > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > > >>>>> Selenge < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > > >>>>>> extension for > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > > >>> AdminClient. > > >>>>>> This is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > > >>>>>> because > > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > > >>>> way > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> list > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > > >>>>>> down/fenced. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > > >>>>>> month and > > >>>>>>>>>> has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > > >>>> have > > >>>>>>>> raised a > > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > > >>>> and > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > > >>> include > > >>>>> it > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > > >>> to > > >>>>>> make > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > >>>>>>>> ? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > > >>> Vaidya > > >>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > > >>>> extension > > >>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > > >>>> some > > >>>>>> new > > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > > >>>>>> incompatible > > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > > >>> release > > >>>>>> them > > >>>>>>>> would > > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > > >>>>> minute > > >>>>>> very > > >>>>>>>>>>> close > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > > >>>> Kafka > > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > > >>>> for > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > >>>>>>>> even > > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > > >>> Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > > >>>>>> freeze is > > >>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > > >>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > > >>> a > > >>>>>> voting > > >>>>>>>>>> thread > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > > >>> Chen > > >>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > > >>>> plan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > > >>>>> Huang > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > > >>>>> manager > > >>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > > >>> listed, > > >>>>>> can I > > >>>>>>>> edit > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > > >>> Colin > > >>>>>> McCabe < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > > >>>> is. > > >>>>>>>> November > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > > >>> make > > >>>> it > > >>>>>> into > > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > > >>> ready > > >>>>> by > > >>>>>>>> feature > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > > >>>> TengYao > > >>>>>> Chi > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > > >>> inclusion > > >>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > > >>>>>> believe it > > >>>>>>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > > >>>> and > > >>>>>> Kafka > > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > > >>>>> addition. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > >>> 於 > > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > > >>>> there's > > >>>>> a > > >>>>>> JIRA > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > > >>>> David > > >>>>>> Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > > >>> it > > >>>>>> include > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > > >>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > > >>>>>> tasks. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > > >>>>> January. > > >>>>>>>> (Well > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > > >>>>> David > > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > > >>> that > > >>>>> we > > >>>>>>>> should > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > > >>> should > > >>>>>> ensure > > >>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > > >>>> code > > >>>>>>>> freeze. > > >>>>>>>>>>> The > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > > >>> with > > >>>>>> all the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > > >>>>>> already > > >>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > > >>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>> Chen < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > > >>>> me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > > >>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>> without > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > > >>>> criteria > > >>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>> it? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > > >>>> like, > > >>>>>> when > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > > >>>>> removal > > >>>>>>>> tasks > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > > >>> of > > >>>>>> codes in > > >>>>>>>>>>> later > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > > >>>> to > > >>>>> ZK > > >>>>>>>> open > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > > >>> time-based > > >>>>>>>> management > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > > >>> tasks > > >>>>> and > > >>>>>>>> track > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > > >>>>> with > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > > >>>>> David > > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > > >>> plan > > >>>>> for > > >>>>>>>> Apache > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > > >>>>> know > > >>>>>> what > > >>>>>>>>>> you > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > > >>>> you > > >>>>>> could > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > > >>>> took > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> list > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > > >>> that > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> list is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > >>> 5:02 AM > > >>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>> Chen > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > > >>>> change > > >>>>>>>> release, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > > >>> manager?) > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> help on > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > >>>> 1:33 AM > > >>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > > >>>> 10:11, > > >>>>>> Chris > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > >>> 13:07 > > >>>>> José > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > > >>> volunteering > > >>>>>> David! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > >>>>>> volunteering! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > > >>>>>> 19:27, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > > >>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > > >>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > > >>> 2024 > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache > > >>>> Kafka > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the 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