Hey folks, I've found what I believe to be a performance regression that was caused by my last bugfix. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18654 I'm hoping to get a PR open today and get the benchmark tests to verify things are working as expected. I will keep this thread updated if there are any risks for KIP-890 for the release.
Thanks, Justine On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 10:55 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, I've filed a backport PR for KAFKA-17587 which reorganizes some test > code. This will help reduce friction when backporting integration test > changes from trunk. The risk of this PR is very minimal since it only > affects test sources. Let me know what you think. > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18694 > > -David A > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:07 PM Justine Olshan > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > wrote: > > > Hey Colin -- yes, we have a blocker to bump the stable metadata versions > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18611. I can open that today > > or > > so. > > > > Justine > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:55 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > We have two blockers for ELR: > > > > > > - KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in ELR > mode > > > - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues > > > > > > They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the next > few > > > days. > > > > > > Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and KIP-1075 in > > > Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and > IBP_4_0_IV3 > > > as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump those > > > metadata versions to 4.1. > > > > > > best, > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers > attached > > > > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. > > > > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi Matthias, > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> David > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > > > >> > > > > >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to > > > >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did > add a > > > >> > WARN log for it via: > > > >> > > > > >> > - > > > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > > > >> > - > > > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > > > >> > > > > >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option > > and > > > >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when > > the > > > >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > > > >> > > > > >> > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 > > for > > > the > > > >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this > > ticket? > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -Matthias > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > > > >> > > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release > plan > > > [1] > > > >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have > kept > > > >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the > > > planned > > > >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please > take > > a > > > >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Best, > > > >> > > David > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya < > > > divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hey David > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at > > > flaky/failing > > > >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them > > > this week. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> [1] > > > >> > >> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -- > > > >> > >> Divij Vaidya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > > > >> > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we > must > > > fix in 4.0. > > > >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the > > > suggested way > > > >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Thanks, > > > >> > >>> David > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > > chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>> hi DJ > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > > > >> > >>>> ) > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 > > > 下午3:53寫道： > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > > > >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be > > > possible to > > > >> > >>>> already > > > >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system > tests? > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > > > >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably > > small. > > > >> > >>> Hence, I > > > >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but > > before > > > the > > > >> > >>> code > > > >> > >>>>> freeze. > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > > > >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai < > > > chia7...@apache.org> > > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> hi David > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an > unsupported > > > public > > > >> > >>>> API > > > >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is > > > necessary? > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> thanks, > > > >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big > > chunks > > > of > > > >> > >>> your > > > >> > >>>>>> KIPs > > > >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the > > > release > > > >> > >>>> branch > > > >> > >>>>> on > > > >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, > > > please > > > >> > >>>>>> reachout > > > >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the > > KIPs > > > >> > >>> which > > > >> > >>>>> are > > > >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to > me > > > that > > > >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty > large > > > change > > > >> > >>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>> after > > > >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we > have > > > a way > > > >> > >>>> back > > > >> > >>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Luke: > > > >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait > > for > > > >> > >>> Ismael. > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe < > > > cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > >>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in > KIP-996 > > > >> > >>>> (PreVote) > > > >> > >>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>> two > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> > (Vote > > > RPC > > > >> > >>>>>> includes > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > > > >> > >>> internal > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > > > >> > >>>>> deprecation > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is > > now > > > >> > >>>>> accepted > > > >> > >>>>>>>> and I > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > > > >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j > to > > > >> > >>>> Log4j2. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is > now > > > >> > >>>> almost > > > >> > >>>>>> ready. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 > 2024年11月26日 > > > 週二 > > > >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道： > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > > > >> > >>> into > > > >> > >>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not > > > >> > >>> contain > > > >> > >>>>> any > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted > KIPs > > > >> > >>>> too. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add > KIP-1011 > > > >> > >>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > > > >> > >>> postpone > > > >> > >>>>>> doing > > > >> > >>>>>>>> it > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > > > >> > >>>> ConfgCommand > > > >> > >>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>> avoid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > > > >> > >>>>>> deadline > > > >> > >>>>>>>> is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > > > >> > >>>> will > > > >> > >>>>>> wait > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> until > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status > > > >> > >>>> of > > > >> > >>>>>> your > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > > > >> > >>>>> 11th. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for > > > >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > > > >> > >>>>>>>> but > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? > > > >> > >>>>> Ideally, > > > >> > >>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> should > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > > > >> > >>> do > > > >> > >>>>>> it, we > > > >> > >>>>>>>> may > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > > > >> > >>>> Selenge > > > >> > >>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > > > >> > >>>> now > > > >> > >>>>>>>> passed > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > > > >> > >>> anymore. > > > >> > >>>>>> Can we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > > > >> > >>>>> Selenge < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > > > >> > >>>>>> extension for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > > > >> > >>> AdminClient. > > > >> > >>>>>> This is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > > > >> > >>>>>> because > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > > > >> > >>>> way > > > >> > >>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > > > >> > >>>>>> down/fenced. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > > > >> > >>>>>> month and > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> has > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > > > >> > >>>> have > > > >> > >>>>>>>> raised a > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > > > >> > >>>> and > > > >> > >>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > > > >> > >>> include > > > >> > >>>>> it > > > >> > >>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > > > >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > > > >> > >>> to > > > >> > >>>>>> make > > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > > > >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > > > >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> ? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > > > >> > >>> Vaidya > > > >> > >>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > > > >> > >>>> extension > > > >> > >>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > > > >> > >>>> some > > > >> > >>>>>> new > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > > > >> > >>>>>> incompatible > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > > > >> > >>> release > > > >> > >>>>>> them > > > >> > >>>>>>>> would > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > > > >> > >>>>> minute > > > >> > >>>>>> very > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > > > >> > >>>> Kafka > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > > > >> > >>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>> 4.0 > > > >> > >>>>>>>> even > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > > > >> > >>> Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > > > >> > >>>>>> freeze is > > > >> > >>>>>>>> on > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > > > >> > >>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > > > >> > >>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > > > >> > >>> a > > > >> > >>>>>> voting > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > > > >> > >>> Chen > > > >> > >>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > > > >> > >>>> plan. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > > > >> > >>>>> Huang > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > > > >> > >>>>> manager > > > >> > >>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > > > >> > >>> listed, > > > >> > >>>>>> can I > > > >> > >>>>>>>> edit > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > > > >> > >>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>> McCabe < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > > > >> > >>>> is. > > > >> > >>>>>>>> November > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > > > >> > >>> make > > > >> > >>>> it > > > >> > >>>>>> into > > > >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > > > >> > >>> ready > > > >> > >>>>> by > > > >> > >>>>>>>> feature > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > > > >> > >>>> TengYao > > > >> > >>>>>> Chi > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > > > >> > >>> inclusion > > > >> > >>>>> of > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > > > >> > >>>>>> believe it > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> will > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > > > >> > >>>> and > > > >> > >>>>>> Kafka > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > > > >> > >>>>> addition. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > >>> 於 > > > >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > > > >> > >>>> there's > > > >> > >>>>> a > > > >> > >>>>>> JIRA > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > > > >> > >>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>> Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > > > >> > >>> it > > > >> > >>>>>> include > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > > > >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > > > >> > >>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > > > >> > >>>>>> tasks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > > > >> > >>>>> January. > > > >> > >>>>>>>> (Well > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > > > >> > >>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > > > >> > >>> that > > > >> > >>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>> should > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>>>>> ensure > > > >> > >>>>>>>> that > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > > > >> > >>>> code > > > >> > >>>>>>>> freeze. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > > > >> > >>> with > > > >> > >>>>>> all the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > > > >> > >>>>>> already > > > >> > >>>>>>>> have > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > > > >> > >>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > > > >> > >>>> me. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > > > >> > >>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > > > >> > >>>> criteria > > > >> > >>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>> it? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > > > >> > >>>> like, > > > >> > >>>>>> when > > > >> > >>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > > > >> > >>>>> removal > > > >> > >>>>>>>> tasks > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > > > >> > >>> of > > > >> > >>>>>> codes in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > > > >> > >>>> to > > > >> > >>>>> ZK > > > >> > >>>>>>>> open > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > > > >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > > > >> > >>> time-based > > > >> > >>>>>>>> management > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > > > >> > >>> tasks > > > >> > >>>>> and > > > >> > >>>>>>>> track > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > > > >> > >>>>> with > > > >> > >>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > > > >> > >>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > > > >> > >>> plan > > > >> > >>>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Apache > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > > > >> > >>>>> know > > > >> > >>>>>> what > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> you > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > > > >> > >>>> you > > > >> > >>>>>> could > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > > > >> > >>>> took > > > >> > >>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > > > >> > >>> that > > > >> > >>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>> list is > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > > >> > >>> 5:02 AM > > > >> > >>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > > > >> > >>>> change > > > >> > >>>>>>>> release, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > > > >> > >>> manager?) > > > >> > >>>>> to > > > >> > >>>>>>>> help on > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > > > >> > >>>> 1:33 AM > > > >> > >>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > > > >> > >>>> 10:11, > > > >> > >>>>>> Chris > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > > >> > >>> 13:07 > > > >> > >>>>> José > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > > > >> > >>> volunteering > > > >> > >>>>>> David! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > >> > >>>>>> volunteering! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > > > >> > >>>>>> 19:27, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > > > >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > > > >> > >>> at > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > > > >> > >>>> for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > > > >> > >>> 2024 > > > >> > >>>> at > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache > > > >> > >>>> Kafka > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple > > > >> > >>>> of > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source > > > >> > >>>> Engineering > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> josep.p...@aiven.io > > > >> > >>>>> | > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland > > > >> > >>>>> GmbH* > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, > > > >> > >>>>> 10117 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlin > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: > > > >> > >>>> Oskari > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, > > > >> > >>>>> Kenneth > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottenburg, > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HRB > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 209739 > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > David Arthur >
