I'm baaaack!  My nameplates are indeed 21 3/16" long by 2" high.  Based
upon Ken's warning, you should measure your nameplates very carefully
before ordering.  Mine are in a small recess (perhaps 1/4" deep), so a
nameplate that is even a little bit too big won't fit at all.

I also noticed that the original nameplates are not made of black acrylic,
but the same materials that the windows are made of.  That is to say, they
are made of 1/4" gray tinted Plexiglas.  It is likely they made the
nameplates from scrap materials from the windows.

Gary

~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~


On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Gary Russell <captnga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken,
>    Hmmm!  Going over to remeasure right now.  Be back shortly.  It
> wouldn't be unheard of for C&C to make each boat a little different.  It's
> so we can say we own one of a kind😀.
> Gary
>
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My custom SS 37+ nameplate is 19-3/4" long.  Hmmm.
>>
>> Everybody had better measure carefully before they order.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On 13 January 2016 at 12:29, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>      My understanding is the 34+ nameplate is a little over 19" long,
>>> where the 37+ nameplate is 21 3/16" long.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wouldn’t it be identical except swap a 4 for the 7?    Would it be
>>>> possible to attach these onto the original raised plastic name plate (at
>>>> least that is my memory of my current unreadable nameplate).  I think that
>>>> would work if it was stainless as pictured.  I can take some measurements
>>>> this weekend.  Dave
>>>>
>>>> Aries
>>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>>> New London, CT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall
>>>> measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design.  Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> Aries
>>>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>>>> New London, CT
>>>>>
>>>>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Gary,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you.  Also sorry for you
>>>>> to have spent nonrecoverable money.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it really comes down to two big options:
>>>>>
>>>>> Stainless Steel
>>>>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>>
>>>>> Polycarbonate
>>>>>
>>>>> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts
>>>>> in acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so.  If
>>>>> not, thank you for all that you have already done.
>>>>>
>>>>> To the list,
>>>>>
>>>>> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it
>>>>> looks like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a
>>>>> replacement name plate in Stainless Steel.  My pursuits will include
>>>>> something that is suitable for all C&C owners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
>>>>> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose
>>>>> expectation of what I'm pursuing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow!  Gentlemen,
>>>>>>      My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an
>>>>>> original replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and
>>>>>> share it with the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> benefited from Stu's fine list.  God bless you Stu!  Many on the list
>>>>>> seemed to think it was a good idea.  Then it was brought up that it 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> have a '+' on it, even though my boat never had such.  I added the '+'.  
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> course, the addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R.  So now
>>>>>> there is a request for an 'R'.  But some would like it in stainless 
>>>>>> steel,
>>>>>> and some would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
>>>>>> original).  Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 
>>>>>> 34s,
>>>>>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a 
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> different model with different sized characters.  As you can see, this is
>>>>>> getting a bit complicated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I
>>>>>> want to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a
>>>>>> bit overwhelming.  I am not making any money on these nameplates and have
>>>>>> other boat projects in the works.  Anyone interested in my autopilot
>>>>>> design?  Don't go there, Gary😀.  In the interest of full disclosure, I am
>>>>>> paying $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE.  I had hoped 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> by selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE.  That's now looking less
>>>>>> likely.  So here we are.  I cannot make 10 different designs.  We need to
>>>>>> come up with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different
>>>>>> nameplates and miss the ski season entirely.  Let's get together on a
>>>>>> couple of designs we can all agree on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>>>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Ken,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm very interested.  I've always loved the way yours look.  Since
>>>>>>> we're sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we
>>>>>>> can all agree on.  "All" includes anyone that might be interested
>>>>>>> regardless of whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their
>>>>>>> variants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>>>>>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>>>>>>> ratios.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy.  He's clearly demonstrated his
>>>>>>> proficiency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly
>>>>>>> appreciate.  If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> unwilling to be the "design guy" I would understand.  If not, I'd like 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see what you can come up with for this stainless steel solution.  I 
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> what you already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> was original.  I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols
>>>>>>> would be recessed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling
>>>>>>> it with paint challenging.  I would eliminate the rim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>>>>>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover
>>>>>>> the original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours,
>>>>>>> provide options for various model numbers.  As I see it, this is the 
>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>> which opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album
>>>>>>> for future owners.  A profit margin could be added with proceeds 
>>>>>>> forwarded
>>>>>>> to Stu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>>>>>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you.  I'm thinking that if we get the 
>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>>>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>>>>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless
>>>>>>> steel name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a
>>>>>>> link to one of those photos:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and in context:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and
>>>>>>> symbols recessed and then infill painted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from
>>>>>>> the boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that 
>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>>>>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates
>>>>>>> exactly the same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices
>>>>>>> listed below, in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is
>>>>>>> in the toilet right now so the US members on the list will pay 
>>>>>>> considerably
>>>>>>> less in US dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1
>>>>>>> Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up
>>>>>>> to do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, 
>>>>>>> *perhaps
>>>>>>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3
>>>>>>> business days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra 
>>>>>>> (FedEx-
>>>>>>> 2 business days).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quantity  Product                                             Unit
>>>>>>> Price
>>>>>>> 1            NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)        $130.98
>>>>>>> 1            Setup Fee
>>>>>>> $70.00
>>>>>>> 1            Design Services Fee                             $40.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>>>>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>>>>>> drop some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit
>>>>>>> price drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee
>>>>>>> and the Design Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group
>>>>>>> order, allowing them to make plates in batches, makes sense for 
>>>>>>> everybody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>>>>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have 
>>>>>>> C&C
>>>>>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the 
>>>>>>> $70.00 Setup
>>>>>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>>>>>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>>>>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>>>>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>>>>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>>>>>> Date: 2016-01-11
>>>>>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>>>>>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>>>>>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>>>>>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>>>>>>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND
>>>>>>> UNIT PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF
>>>>>>> PLACING AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON
>>>>>>> THE LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>>>>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>>>>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>>>>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of
>>>>>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for
>>>>>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2
>>>>>>> business days)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Christin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>>>>>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, 
>>>>>>> thank
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken H.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ken,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering
>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint,
>>>>>>> would you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christin on behalf of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Shirley Evely*
>>>>>>> Sales Manager
>>>>>>> Protocase, Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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