Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall
measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate.

Gary

~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~


On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design.  Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Gary,
>
> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you.  Also sorry for you to
> have spent nonrecoverable money.
>
> I think it really comes down to two big options:
>
> Stainless Steel
>
> Or
>
> Polycarbonate
>
> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts in
> acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.
>
> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so.  If not,
> thank you for all that you have already done.
>
> To the list,
>
> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks
> like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name
> plate in Stainless Steel.  My pursuits will include something that is
> suitable for all C&C owners.
>
> Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation of
> what I'm pursuing.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow!  Gentlemen,
>>      My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an original
>> replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and share it with
>> the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I have benefited
>> from Stu's fine list.  God bless you Stu!  Many on the list seemed to think
>> it was a good idea.  Then it was brought up that it should have a '+' on
>> it, even though my boat never had such.  I added the '+'.  Of course, the
>> addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R.  So now there is a
>> request for an 'R'.  But some would like it in stainless steel, and some
>> would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
>> original).  Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 34s,
>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely
>> different model with different sized characters.  As you can see, this is
>> getting a bit complicated.
>>
>>     The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I want
>> to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a bit
>> overwhelming.  I am not making any money on these nameplates and have other
>> boat projects in the works.  Anyone interested in my autopilot design?
>> Don't go there, Gary😀.  In the interest of full disclosure, I am paying
>> $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE.  I had hoped that by
>> selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE.  That's now looking less likely.
>> So here we are.  I cannot make 10 different designs.  We need to come up
>> with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different nameplates
>> and miss the ski season entirely.  Let's get together on a couple of
>> designs we can all agree on.
>>
>> Gary
>> S/V High Maintenance
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>
>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ken,
>>>
>>> I'm very interested.  I've always loved the way yours look.  Since we're
>>> sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we can all
>>> agree on.  "All" includes anyone that might be interested regardless of
>>> whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their variants.
>>>
>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>>> ratios.
>>>
>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy.  He's clearly demonstrated his
>>> proficiency.
>>>
>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly appreciate.
>>> If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and are unwilling to
>>> be the "design guy" I would understand.  If not, I'd like to see what you
>>> can come up with for this stainless steel solution.  I think what you
>>> already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to what was
>>> original.  I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>>
>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols would
>>> be recessed.
>>>
>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>>
>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling it
>>> with paint challenging.  I would eliminate the rim
>>>
>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>>
>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover the
>>> original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>>
>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours, provide
>>> options for various model numbers.  As I see it, this is the option which
>>> opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>>
>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
>>> future owners.  A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
>>> Stu.
>>>
>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you.  I'm thinking that if we get the per
>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>>
>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>
>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>
>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link
>>> to one of those photos:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> ...and in context:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
>>> recessed and then infill painted.
>>>
>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
>>> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>
>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>
>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>> satisfaction.
>>>
>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>>> business days).
>>>
>>> Quantity  Product                                             Unit Price
>>> 1            NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)        $130.98
>>> 1            Setup Fee                                           $70.00
>>> 1            Design Services Fee                             $40.00
>>>
>>>
>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>> drop some.
>>>
>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>>> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
>>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>
>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>>> Setup
>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>
>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>
>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>
>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>> Date: 2016-01-11
>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>>
>>>
>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
>>> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
>>> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
>>> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>>
>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>>
>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of
>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for
>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you
>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2
>>> business days)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Christin,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Ken,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint, would
>>> you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christin on behalf of
>>>
>>> *Shirley Evely*
>>> Sales Manager
>>> Protocase, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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