Dave,
My understanding is the 34+ nameplate is a little over 19" long, where
the 37+ nameplate is 21 3/16" long.
Gary
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Wouldn’t it be identical except swap a 4 for the 7? Would it be
> possible to attach these onto the original raised plastic name plate (at
> least that is my memory of my current unreadable nameplate). I think that
> would work if it was stainless as pictured. I can take some measurements
> this weekend. Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall
> measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate.
>
> Gary
>
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design. Dave
>>
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>>
>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Gary,
>>
>> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you. Also sorry for you to
>> have spent nonrecoverable money.
>>
>> I think it really comes down to two big options:
>>
>> Stainless Steel
>>
>> Or
>>
>> Polycarbonate
>>
>> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts in
>> acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.
>>
>> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so. If not,
>> thank you for all that you have already done.
>>
>> To the list,
>>
>> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks
>> like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name
>> plate in Stainless Steel. My pursuits will include something that is
>> suitable for all C&C owners.
>>
>> Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
>> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation
>> of what I'm pursuing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow! Gentlemen,
>>> My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an
>>> original replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and
>>> share it with the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I have
>>> benefited from Stu's fine list. God bless you Stu! Many on the list
>>> seemed to think it was a good idea. Then it was brought up that it should
>>> have a '+' on it, even though my boat never had such. I added the '+'. Of
>>> course, the addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R. So now
>>> there is a request for an 'R'. But some would like it in stainless steel,
>>> and some would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
>>> original). Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 34s,
>>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely
>>> different model with different sized characters. As you can see, this is
>>> getting a bit complicated.
>>>
>>> The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I want
>>> to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a bit
>>> overwhelming. I am not making any money on these nameplates and have other
>>> boat projects in the works. Anyone interested in my autopilot design?
>>> Don't go there, Gary😀. In the interest of full disclosure, I am paying
>>> $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE. I had hoped that by
>>> selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE. That's now looking less likely.
>>> So here we are. I cannot make 10 different designs. We need to come up
>>> with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different nameplates
>>> and miss the ski season entirely. Let's get together on a couple of
>>> designs we can all agree on.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Ken,
>>>>
>>>> I'm very interested. I've always loved the way yours look. Since
>>>> we're sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we
>>>> can all agree on. "All" includes anyone that might be interested
>>>> regardless of whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their
>>>> variants.
>>>>
>>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>>>> ratios.
>>>>
>>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy. He's clearly demonstrated his
>>>> proficiency.
>>>>
>>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly appreciate.
>>>> If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and are unwilling to
>>>> be the "design guy" I would understand. If not, I'd like to see what you
>>>> can come up with for this stainless steel solution. I think what you
>>>> already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to what was
>>>> original. I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>>>
>>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols would
>>>> be recessed.
>>>>
>>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>>>
>>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling it
>>>> with paint challenging. I would eliminate the rim
>>>>
>>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>>>
>>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover
>>>> the original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>>>
>>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours,
>>>> provide options for various model numbers. As I see it, this is the option
>>>> which opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>>>
>>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
>>>> future owners. A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
>>>> Stu.
>>>>
>>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you. I'm thinking that if we get the per
>>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>>>
>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>>
>>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>>
>>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>>
>>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past. Here is a link
>>>> to one of those photos:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>>
>>>> ...and in context:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>>
>>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and
>>>> symbols recessed and then infill painted.
>>>>
>>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from
>>>> the boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>>
>>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>>> dollars. As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>>
>>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>>>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>>>> as soon as next week*). These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>
>>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>>>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>>>> business days).
>>>>
>>>> Quantity Product Unit
>>>> Price
>>>> 1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) $130.98
>>>> 1 Setup Fee $70.00
>>>> 1 Design Services Fee $40.00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>>> drop some.
>>>>
>>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>>>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>>>> Services Fee for the entire order. So a group order, allowing them to make
>>>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>>
>>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00
>>>> Setup
>>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>>
>>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>>> attachments. Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>>
>>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>>
>>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>>> Date: 2016-01-11
>>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>>>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
>>>> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
>>>> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN. THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
>>>> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>>>
>>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of
>>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for
>>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you
>>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2
>>>> business days)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>>>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Christin,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken H.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ken,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint, would
>>>> you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christin on behalf of
>>>>
>>>> *Shirley Evely*
>>>> Sales Manager
>>>> Protocase, Inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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