Ken,
   Hmmm!  Going over to remeasure right now.  Be back shortly.  It wouldn't
be unheard of for C&C to make each boat a little different.  It's so we can
say we own one of a kind😀.
Gary

~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~


On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My custom SS 37+ nameplate is 19-3/4" long.  Hmmm.
>
> Everybody had better measure carefully before they order.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 13 January 2016 at 12:29, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>      My understanding is the 34+ nameplate is a little over 19" long,
>> where the 37+ nameplate is 21 3/16" long.
>> Gary
>>
>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn’t it be identical except swap a 4 for the 7?    Would it be
>>> possible to attach these onto the original raised plastic name plate (at
>>> least that is my memory of my current unreadable nameplate).  I think that
>>> would work if it was stainless as pictured.  I can take some measurements
>>> this weekend.  Dave
>>>
>>> Aries
>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall
>>> measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design.  Dave
>>>>
>>>> Aries
>>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>>> New London, CT
>>>>
>>>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Gary,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you.  Also sorry for you
>>>> to have spent nonrecoverable money.
>>>>
>>>> I think it really comes down to two big options:
>>>>
>>>> Stainless Steel
>>>>
>>>> Or
>>>>
>>>> Polycarbonate
>>>>
>>>> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts
>>>> in acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so.  If
>>>> not, thank you for all that you have already done.
>>>>
>>>> To the list,
>>>>
>>>> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks
>>>> like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name
>>>> plate in Stainless Steel.  My pursuits will include something that is
>>>> suitable for all C&C owners.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
>>>> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation
>>>> of what I'm pursuing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow!  Gentlemen,
>>>>>      My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an
>>>>> original replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and
>>>>> share it with the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I 
>>>>> have
>>>>> benefited from Stu's fine list.  God bless you Stu!  Many on the list
>>>>> seemed to think it was a good idea.  Then it was brought up that it should
>>>>> have a '+' on it, even though my boat never had such.  I added the '+'.  
>>>>> Of
>>>>> course, the addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R.  So now
>>>>> there is a request for an 'R'.  But some would like it in stainless steel,
>>>>> and some would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
>>>>> original).  Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 
>>>>> 34s,
>>>>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely
>>>>> different model with different sized characters.  As you can see, this is
>>>>> getting a bit complicated.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I
>>>>> want to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a
>>>>> bit overwhelming.  I am not making any money on these nameplates and have
>>>>> other boat projects in the works.  Anyone interested in my autopilot
>>>>> design?  Don't go there, Gary😀.  In the interest of full disclosure, I am
>>>>> paying $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE.  I had hoped that
>>>>> by selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE.  That's now looking less
>>>>> likely.  So here we are.  I cannot make 10 different designs.  We need to
>>>>> come up with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different
>>>>> nameplates and miss the ski season entirely.  Let's get together on a
>>>>> couple of designs we can all agree on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Ken,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very interested.  I've always loved the way yours look.  Since
>>>>>> we're sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we
>>>>>> can all agree on.  "All" includes anyone that might be interested
>>>>>> regardless of whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their
>>>>>> variants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>>>>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>>>>>> ratios.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy.  He's clearly demonstrated his
>>>>>> proficiency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly
>>>>>> appreciate.  If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> unwilling to be the "design guy" I would understand.  If not, I'd like to
>>>>>> see what you can come up with for this stainless steel solution.  I think
>>>>>> what you already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to 
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> was original.  I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols
>>>>>> would be recessed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling
>>>>>> it with paint challenging.  I would eliminate the rim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>>>>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover
>>>>>> the original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours,
>>>>>> provide options for various model numbers.  As I see it, this is the 
>>>>>> option
>>>>>> which opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
>>>>>> future owners.  A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
>>>>>> Stu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>>>>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you.  I'm thinking that if we get the 
>>>>>> per
>>>>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>>>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>>>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a
>>>>>> link to one of those photos:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and in context:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and
>>>>>> symbols recessed and then infill painted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from
>>>>>> the boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that 
>>>>>> makes
>>>>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>>>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>>>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>>>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>>>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>>>>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>>>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up
>>>>>> to do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, 
>>>>>> *perhaps
>>>>>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3
>>>>>> business days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra 
>>>>>> (FedEx-
>>>>>> 2 business days).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quantity  Product                                             Unit
>>>>>> Price
>>>>>> 1            NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)        $130.98
>>>>>> 1            Setup Fee
>>>>>> $70.00
>>>>>> 1            Design Services Fee                             $40.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>>>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>>>>> drop some.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit
>>>>>> price drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and
>>>>>> the Design Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order,
>>>>>> allowing them to make plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>>>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have 
>>>>>> C&C
>>>>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>>>>>> Setup
>>>>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>>>>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>>>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>>>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>>>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>>>>> Date: 2016-01-11
>>>>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>>>>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>>>>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>>>>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>>>>>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND
>>>>>> UNIT PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF
>>>>>> PLACING AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON
>>>>>> THE LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>>>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>>>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>>>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of
>>>>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for
>>>>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2
>>>>>> business days)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Christin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>>>>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, 
>>>>>> thank
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken H.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Ken,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint,
>>>>>> would you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christin on behalf of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Shirley Evely*
>>>>>> Sales Manager
>>>>>> Protocase, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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