Gary, So are mine, but they stand proud of the coach roof too. As someone else pondered, "I wonder how they are attached. I hope not with Plexus!"
So instead of attempting to remove mine I plan to grind the rim flush and chip off the few remaining letters. A small recess will probably always exist but the metal plate would sit flat on top of the whole scar leaving a clean and finished look of nothing but SS on clean fiberglass. I measured mine, it was: 21 1/8th inches by 2 inches Ken had an "R" I'll try to find. Josh On Jan 13, 2016 4:33 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Josh, > I'm not sure that will work very well as my nameplates are recessed > into the coach roof. > Gary > > ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> My intention was to either remove or grind flush the existing plastic >> plaques. Then the metal ones would sit flat on top. A slight oversize of >> 1/2 inch would allow 1/4" all around so that the original scar is >> completely covered with some additional margin. >> >> A design that takes into account the largest of our boats would allow for >> less expensive engineering and less work for each redesign. >> >> I'll measure mine when I get a chance. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> On Jan 13, 2016 10:13 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall >>> measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design. Dave >>>> >>>> Aries >>>> 1990 C&C 34+ >>>> New London, CT >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Gary, >>>> >>>> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you. Also sorry for you >>>> to have spent nonrecoverable money. >>>> >>>> I think it really comes down to two big options: >>>> >>>> Stainless Steel >>>> >>>> Or >>>> >>>> Polycarbonate >>>> >>>> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts >>>> in acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue. >>>> >>>> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so. If >>>> not, thank you for all that you have already done. >>>> >>>> To the list, >>>> >>>> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks >>>> like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name >>>> plate in Stainless Steel. My pursuits will include something that is >>>> suitable for all C&C owners. >>>> >>>> Is anyone interested in stainless steel? >>>> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation >>>> of what I'm pursuing. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Josh Muckley >>>> S/V Sea Hawk >>>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>>> Solomons, MD >>>> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" < >>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow! Gentlemen, >>>>> My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an >>>>> original replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and >>>>> share it with the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I >>>>> have >>>>> benefited from Stu's fine list. God bless you Stu! Many on the list >>>>> seemed to think it was a good idea. Then it was brought up that it should >>>>> have a '+' on it, even though my boat never had such. I added the '+'. >>>>> Of >>>>> course, the addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R. So now >>>>> there is a request for an 'R'. But some would like it in stainless steel, >>>>> and some would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the >>>>> original). Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C >>>>> 34s, >>>>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely >>>>> different model with different sized characters. As you can see, this is >>>>> getting a bit complicated. >>>>> >>>>> The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I >>>>> want to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a >>>>> bit overwhelming. I am not making any money on these nameplates and have >>>>> other boat projects in the works. Anyone interested in my autopilot >>>>> design? Don't go there, Gary😀. In the interest of full disclosure, I am >>>>> paying $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE. I had hoped that >>>>> by selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE. That's now looking less >>>>> likely. So here we are. I cannot make 10 different designs. We need to >>>>> come up with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different >>>>> nameplates and miss the ski season entirely. Let's get together on a >>>>> couple of designs we can all agree on. >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> S/V High Maintenance >>>>> '90 C&C 37+ >>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Ken, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very interested. I've always loved the way yours look. Since >>>>>> we're sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we >>>>>> can all agree on. "All" includes anyone that might be interested >>>>>> regardless of whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their >>>>>> variants. >>>>>> >>>>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the >>>>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's >>>>>> ratios. >>>>>> >>>>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy. He's clearly demonstrated his >>>>>> proficiency. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly >>>>>> appreciate. If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and >>>>>> are >>>>>> unwilling to be the "design guy" I would understand. If not, I'd like to >>>>>> see what you can come up with for this stainless steel solution. I think >>>>>> what you already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to >>>>>> what >>>>>> was original. I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols >>>>>> would be recessed. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch. >>>>>> >>>>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling >>>>>> it with paint challenging. I would eliminate the rim >>>>>> >>>>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward. >>>>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover >>>>>> the original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides >>>>>> >>>>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours, >>>>>> provide options for various model numbers. As I see it, this is the >>>>>> option >>>>>> which opens this project to all C&C owners. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for >>>>>> future owners. A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to >>>>>> Stu. >>>>>> >>>>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would >>>>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you. I'm thinking that if we get the >>>>>> per >>>>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary! >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Muckley >>>>>> S/V Sea Hawk >>>>>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>>>>> Solomons, MD >>>>>> Hello Everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have >>>>>> another option to put foreward. >>>>>> >>>>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel >>>>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top. >>>>>> >>>>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past. Here is a >>>>>> link to one of those photos: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791 >>>>>> >>>>>> ...and in context: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791 >>>>>> >>>>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and >>>>>> symbols recessed and then infill painted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from >>>>>> the boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that >>>>>> makes >>>>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities >>>>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe). >>>>>> >>>>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the >>>>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, >>>>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right >>>>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US >>>>>> dollars. As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar >>>>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar. >>>>>> >>>>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up >>>>>> to do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, >>>>>> *perhaps >>>>>> as soon as next week*). These guys (and girls) are into customer >>>>>> satisfaction. >>>>>> >>>>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 >>>>>> business days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra >>>>>> (FedEx- >>>>>> 2 business days). >>>>>> >>>>>> Quantity Product Unit >>>>>> Price >>>>>> 1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) $130.98 >>>>>> 1 Setup Fee >>>>>> $70.00 >>>>>> 1 Design Services Fee $40.00 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup >>>>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also >>>>>> drop some. >>>>>> >>>>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit >>>>>> price drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and >>>>>> the Design Services Fee for the entire order. So a group order, >>>>>> allowing them to make plates in batches, makes sense for everybody. >>>>>> >>>>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing >>>>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have >>>>>> C&C >>>>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 >>>>>> Setup >>>>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will >>>>>> be >>>>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme. >>>>>> >>>>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow >>>>>> attachments. Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his >>>>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious): >>>>>> http://www.protocase.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Other quote and contact info below: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quotation - Shipping Included >>>>>> Quote Number: 46088 >>>>>> Date: 2016-01-11 >>>>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely >>>>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21 >>>>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911 >>>>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com >>>>>> Website: www.protocase.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND >>>>>> UNIT PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF >>>>>> PLACING AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN. THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON >>>>>> THE LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin >>>>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955 >>>>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 >>>>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com> >>>>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11 >>>>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088) >>>>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of >>>>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for >>>>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if >>>>>> you >>>>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2 >>>>>> business days) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM >>>>>> *To:* Shirley Evely >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Christin, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded >>>>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, >>>>>> thank >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken H. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Ken, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint, >>>>>> would you like a quote for just the engraving? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christin on behalf of >>>>>> >>>>>> *Shirley Evely* >>>>>> Sales Manager >>>>>> Protocase, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Email address: >>>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>>>>> bottom of page at: >>>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Email address: >>>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>>>>> bottom of page at: >>>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Email address: >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>>>> bottom of page at: >>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <DSC08375~2.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>>> bottom of page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>>> bottom of page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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