Hey Gary,

Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you.  Also sorry for you to
have spent nonrecoverable money.

I think it really comes down to two big options:

Stainless Steel

Or

Polycarbonate

I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts in
acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.

If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so.  If not,
thank you for all that you have already done.

To the list,

As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks
like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name
plate in Stainless Steel.  My pursuits will include something that is
suitable for all C&C owners.

Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation of
what I'm pursuing.

Thanks,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Wow!  Gentlemen,
>      My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an original
> replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and share it with
> the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I have benefited
> from Stu's fine list.  God bless you Stu!  Many on the list seemed to think
> it was a good idea.  Then it was brought up that it should have a '+' on
> it, even though my boat never had such.  I added the '+'.  Of course, the
> addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R.  So now there is a
> request for an 'R'.  But some would like it in stainless steel, and some
> would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
> original).  Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 34s,
> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely
> different model with different sized characters.  As you can see, this is
> getting a bit complicated.
>
>     The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I want
> to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a bit
> overwhelming.  I am not making any money on these nameplates and have other
> boat projects in the works.  Anyone interested in my autopilot design?
> Don't go there, Gary😀.  In the interest of full disclosure, I am paying
> $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE.  I had hoped that by
> selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE.  That's now looking less likely.
> So here we are.  I cannot make 10 different designs.  We need to come up
> with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different nameplates
> and miss the ski season entirely.  Let's get together on a couple of
> designs we can all agree on.
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ken,
>>
>> I'm very interested.  I've always loved the way yours look.  Since we're
>> sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we can all
>> agree on.  "All" includes anyone that might be interested regardless of
>> whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their variants.
>>
>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>> ratios.
>>
>> I nominate Gary as the design guy.  He's clearly demonstrated his
>> proficiency.
>>
>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly appreciate.  If
>> you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and are unwilling to be
>> the "design guy" I would understand.  If not, I'd like to see what you can
>> come up with for this stainless steel solution.  I think what you already
>> came up with is great and matches amazingly close to what was original.  I
>> envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>
>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols would be
>> recessed.
>>
>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>
>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling it
>> with paint challenging.  I would eliminate the rim
>>
>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>
>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover the
>> original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>
>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours, provide
>> options for various model numbers.  As I see it, this is the option which
>> opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>
>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
>> future owners.  A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
>> Stu.
>>
>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>> justify a FREE set of plates for you.  I'm thinking that if we get the per
>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>
>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>> another option to put foreward.
>>
>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>
>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to
>> one of those photos:
>>
>>
>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>
>> ...and in context:
>>
>>
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>
>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
>> recessed and then infill painted.
>>
>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
>> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>
>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>
>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>> satisfaction.
>>
>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>> business days).
>>
>> Quantity  Product                                             Unit Price
>> 1            NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)        $130.98
>> 1            Setup Fee                                           $70.00
>> 1            Design Services Fee                             $40.00
>>
>>
>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee
>> or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop
>> some.
>>
>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>
>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>> Setup
>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>
>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>
>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>
>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>
>>
>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>> Quote Number: 46088
>> Date: 2016-01-11
>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>
>>
>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
>> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
>> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
>> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>
>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>
>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of different
>> qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for different
>> volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you wish to
>> order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2 business
>> days)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Christin,
>>
>>
>>
>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
>> you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ken,
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint, would
>> you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>
>>
>>
>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Christin on behalf of
>>
>> *Shirley Evely*
>> Sales Manager
>> Protocase, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
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