Josh,
I'm not sure that will work very well as my nameplates are recessed
into the coach roof.
Gary
~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> My intention was to either remove or grind flush the existing plastic
> plaques. Then the metal ones would sit flat on top. A slight oversize of
> 1/2 inch would allow 1/4" all around so that the original scar is
> completely covered with some additional margin.
>
> A design that takes into account the largest of our boats would allow for
> less expensive engineering and less work for each redesign.
>
> I'll measure mine when I get a chance.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 13, 2016 10:13 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Any work by me on a 34 design will require some accurate overall
>> measurements and a good (straight on) picture of an acceptable nameplate.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested if you can include the 34+ in the design. Dave
>>>
>>> Aries
>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Gary,
>>>
>>> Sorry to create an overwhelming situation for you. Also sorry for you
>>> to have spent nonrecoverable money.
>>>
>>> I think it really comes down to two big options:
>>>
>>> Stainless Steel
>>>
>>> Or
>>>
>>> Polycarbonate
>>>
>>> I very much appreciate your efforts which will help propel my efforts in
>>> acquiring SS plates which I intend to pursue.
>>>
>>> If you want to join me in my pursuits you are welcome to do so. If not,
>>> thank you for all that you have already done.
>>>
>>> To the list,
>>>
>>> As stated above, with the help of Ken Heaton and Gary Russell, it looks
>>> like there is a solution (which I have been seeking) for a replacement name
>>> plate in Stainless Steel. My pursuits will include something that is
>>> suitable for all C&C owners.
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in stainless steel?
>>> The attached picture is of Ken Heaton's boat and is a loose expectation
>>> of what I'm pursuing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> On Jan 13, 2016 7:19 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow! Gentlemen,
>>>> My original idea (which I shared with you) was to create an
>>>> original replacement for the deteriorated nameplate on my C&.C 37+ and
>>>> share it with the members of this forum, for the many year (18) that I have
>>>> benefited from Stu's fine list. God bless you Stu! Many on the list
>>>> seemed to think it was a good idea. Then it was brought up that it should
>>>> have a '+' on it, even though my boat never had such. I added the '+'. Of
>>>> course, the addition of the '+' excluded those who had a 37 R. So now
>>>> there is a request for an 'R'. But some would like it in stainless steel,
>>>> and some would like it etched instead of being milled in relief (like the
>>>> original). Of course, it would be nice to help the folks with the C&C 34s,
>>>> but that design is an entirely different dimension, requiring a completely
>>>> different model with different sized characters. As you can see, this is
>>>> getting a bit complicated.
>>>>
>>>> The original model took about 20 hours to complete, and while I
>>>> want to give back to the community, the plethora of designs is getting a
>>>> bit overwhelming. I am not making any money on these nameplates and have
>>>> other boat projects in the works. Anyone interested in my autopilot
>>>> design? Don't go there, Gary😀. In the interest of full disclosure, I am
>>>> paying $50 each for the plates and incurred $145 in NRE. I had hoped that
>>>> by selling 3 of them I could recoup the NRE. That's now looking less
>>>> likely. So here we are. I cannot make 10 different designs. We need to
>>>> come up with a few designs so I am not designing a bazillion different
>>>> nameplates and miss the ski season entirely. Let's get together on a
>>>> couple of designs we can all agree on.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>>> '90 C&C 37+
>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Ken,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very interested. I've always loved the way yours look. Since
>>>>> we're sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we
>>>>> can all agree on. "All" includes anyone that might be interested
>>>>> regardless of whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their
>>>>> variants.
>>>>>
>>>>> Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the
>>>>> plates, the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's
>>>>> ratios.
>>>>>
>>>>> I nominate Gary as the design guy. He's clearly demonstrated his
>>>>> proficiency.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly appreciate.
>>>>> If you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and are unwilling
>>>>> to
>>>>> be the "design guy" I would understand. If not, I'd like to see what you
>>>>> can come up with for this stainless steel solution. I think what you
>>>>> already came up with is great and matches amazingly close to what was
>>>>> original. I envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols would
>>>>> be recessed.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.
>>>>>
>>>>> -The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling it
>>>>> with paint challenging. I would eliminate the rim
>>>>>
>>>>> -As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
>>>>> Different one each for Port and Starboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover
>>>>> the original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides
>>>>>
>>>>> -As already discussed while you were originally designing yours,
>>>>> provide options for various model numbers. As I see it, this is the
>>>>> option
>>>>> which opens this project to all C&C owners.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
>>>>> future owners. A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
>>>>> Stu.
>>>>>
>>>>> -If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
>>>>> justify a FREE set of plates for you. I'm thinking that if we get the per
>>>>> plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Muckley
>>>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>>>> Solomons, MD
>>>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>>>
>>>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past. Here is a link
>>>>> to one of those photos:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and in context:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>>>
>>>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and
>>>>> symbols recessed and then infill painted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from
>>>>> the boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that
>>>>> makes
>>>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>>>
>>>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>>>> dollars. As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>>>
>>>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up
>>>>> to do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon,
>>>>> *perhaps
>>>>> as soon as next week*). These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>>>>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>>>>> business days).
>>>>>
>>>>> Quantity Product Unit
>>>>> Price
>>>>> 1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) $130.98
>>>>> 1 Setup Fee $70.00
>>>>> 1 Design Services Fee $40.00
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>>>> drop some.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit
>>>>> price drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and
>>>>> the Design Services Fee for the entire order. So a group order,
>>>>> allowing them to make plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>>>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>>>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>>>> attachments. Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>>>> Date: 2016-01-11
>>>>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>>>>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>>>>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>>>>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>>>>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
>>>>> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
>>>>> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN. THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
>>>>> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
>>>>> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of
>>>>> different qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for
>>>>> different volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you
>>>>> wish to order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2
>>>>> business days)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
>>>>> *To:* Shirley Evely
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Christin,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
>>>>> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken H.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely <sev...@protocase.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ken,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint,
>>>>> would you like a quote for just the engraving?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christin on behalf of
>>>>>
>>>>> *Shirley Evely*
>>>>> Sales Manager
>>>>> Protocase, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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