That was a $50 option. Came with the sports performance package. :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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> From: "sam.c.sal...@gmail.com" <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:05 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>
>
>
>I've got an extra zero on my build docs too.
>Plate in the cockpit has one extra 0 compared to the # on the transom.
>
>
>Sam Salter
>C&C 26 Liquorice
>Ghost Lake Alberta
>
>
>From: jtsails
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:47 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>
>Hey Rick,
>Got those winches installed, wow what an improvement! Thanks for the help.
>Sorry for my goof with the money.
>Need an address to send the $100
>
>Thanks
>James
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
>To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>
>
>> Interesting. Hull number 100 (some of the internal documents in my build
>> file show my boat as 380047 with an extra 0, even though the HIN is
>> 38047.)
>> I have been told that production of the 38 mk2 started around 090, and
>> around September of 1976. I would think that would make Delaney a 1977
>> model.
>>
>> Something similar to your situation happened with my 25, and I didn't
>> notice
>> it until I moved to NC and had to get it titled. The HIN on the plate in
>> the
>> cockpit has an extra 0 on it, so the HIN and the metal plate did not
>> match.
>> Neither did the bill of sale from Maryland and my registration from
>> Pennsylvania match the HIN molded into the transom. Had a heck of a time
>> convincing the NCDMV to give me a title and NC registration numbers.
>>
>> I looked up Delany in the USCG Documentation database. Besides the partial
>> HIN, I also noticed that your gross tonnage is greater than Imzadi's, but
>> the net tonnage is the same.
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jtsails
>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:32 PM
>> To: billb...@sbcglobal.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>>
>> Rick,
>> To throw some more confusion into the picture, My 1976 38 does not have
>> any
>> marking on the transom, only the manufacturer plate in the cockpit, and
>> the
>> serial number does not have any MIC letters, just numbers. It is stamped
>> with the number "380100-76". All of the paperwork that I have shows the
>> serial number from the plate, no MIC letter codes. I don't have the
>> builder's file, but I think I'll call South Shore and see if I can get it.
>> James
>> Delany
>> 1976 38 MkII
>> Oriental, NC
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Bina" <billb...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
>> Cc: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>>
>>
>>> Your 25 was no doubt built in Canada and has an accurate MIC for the
>>> Canadian plant, as the Rhode Island plant didn't exist when that boat was
>>> built. When it was built, CCY was still the legal MIC for C&C Yachts of
>>> Canada. That changed irrevocably when the Rhode Island plant went online
>>> in February 1976 and the CCY MIC was assigned to Rhode Island. Something
>>> is amiss with your paperwork if it says your 38 was built in the U.S.,
>>> yet
>>
>>> has a ZCC MIC. There are at least a couple issues with that. The first is
>>> that, as I stated, those numbers are not governed by the manufacturer.
>>> You
>>
>>> cannot randomly use different Social Security numbers, either. The other
>>> issue is that I do not believe the Middletown plant was building 38's in
>>> 1976. The molds were in Canada. Maybe they left out a step, or fudged the
>>> paper work for some unknown reason. If that hull has a ZCC MIC, then it
>>> was laid up in Canada, or else laws were broken. If the paperwork said
>>> the
>>
>>> incomplete hull was exported to Rhode Island for completion, then shipped
>>> back to Canada for some unexpected further work that could not be done in
>>> Rhode Island, or a sale fell through, I suppose that would be plausible.
>>> The MIC portion of the HIN legally indicates the point of origin.
>>>
>>> Bill Bina
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 10:13 PM, Rick Brass wrote:
>>>> Bill;
>>>>
>>>> My 25 is certainly a CCY and the customs documentation shows it was made
>>>> in
>>>> Canada and shipped to the US in very early 75.
>>>>
>>>> The 38, which is a Mk1, HIN 047, has the manufacturers code ZCC. It was
>>>> made
>>>> in Rhode Island in early 76, and was listed as ZCC on the customs
>>>> documentation when shipped to NOTL for "addition of optional equipment",
>>>> and
>>>> also as ZCC when reimported to Mt. Clemens, MI. I'd need to check the
>>>> builders file on the boat, but IIRC, the second customs paperwork shows
>>>> the
>>>> Canadian content to be about $2k of a total value of about $36K.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I'm curious whether anyone on the list has a 25 mk1 that is
>>>> not a
>>>> CCY.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm curious to know if there are and 38s with HIN of 89 or lower
>>>> (HIN
>>
>>>> 90
>>>> from about September 76 was the approximate break between the MK1 and
>>>> the
>>>> MK2, I've been told)that is a CCY?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, the ZCC code is still in the USCG database, assigned to C&C Yachts
>>>> on
>>>> Regent St in NOTL, Ontario. The CCY code has apparently been reassigned
>>>> to
>>>> something called Calder Building Co in Mesa, AZ. And there is a C&C
>>>> Boatbuilding (CCW) that is in Sargentville, ME.
>>>>
>>>> What does Tartan.C&C use for the current models of C&C?
>>>>
>>>> Rick Brass
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>>>> Bina
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:54 PM
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
>>>>
>>>> The manufacturer codes are not something the manufacturer can play
>>>> around
>>>> with. C&C was ASSIGNED CCY when they became a company in Canada and the
>>>> change was when they opened the Rhode Island plant. Once the Rhode
>>>> Island
>>>> Plant was in operation, it was ASSIGNED CCY and at that time, the
>>>> Canadian
>>>> plant was ASSIGNED ZCC. There was no overlap, and Candian built boats
>>>> could
>>>> not legally have CCY as the code once the Rhode Island plant was
>>>> operating.
>>>> It was not C&C's choice which code to use. The only way I can possible
>>>> see a
>>>> Rhode Island boat having ZCC would be if it had something seriously
>>>> wrong
>>>> with it when it came out of the mold, and it was shipped to Canada and
>>>> RE-manufactured with a new Canadian ID number.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Bina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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