Rick,

I've made a habit of writing down C&C 25 HINs every time I see one in a 
boatyard or when one comes up for sale and the owner lists the HIN.  What I'm 
curious about is how many were built in each year of the production run, but it 
also gives me some insight into your question.  I've got a couple dozen HIN's 
in my spreadsheet out of a production run of about 550 hulls.

Every 25 I have listed from the '72, '73, and '74 model years has an HIN 
beginning with CCY.  Every 25 I have listed from '76 and '77 model years has an 
HIN beginning with ZCC.  The change occurs during the '75 model year, and 
within the '75 model year, there are no ZCC's before any CCY's.

The last CCY I have listed is CCY253711174.  The first ZCC I have listed is 
ZCC253980275.

Mark

 
 
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    ----- Original Message -----  From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>  
To: billb...@sbcglobal.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com  Sent: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 
02:13:40 -0000 (UTC)  Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again  - Sorry    Bill;    My 
25 is certainly a CCY and the customs documentation shows it was made in  
Canada and shipped to the US in very early 75.    The 38, which is a Mk1, HIN 
047, has the manufacturers code ZCC. It was made  in Rhode Island in early 76, 
and was listed as ZCC on the customs  documentation when shipped to NOTL for 
"addition of optional equipment", and  also as ZCC when reimported to Mt. 
Clemens, MI. I'd need to check the  builders file on the boat, but IIRC, the 
second customs paperwork shows the  Canadian content to be about $2k of a total 
value of about $36K.    As I said, I'm curious whether anyone on the list has a 
25 mk1 that is not a  CCY.    Now I'm curious to know if there are and 38s with 
HIN of 89 or lower (HIN 90  from about September 76 was the approximate break 
between the MK1 and the  MK2, I've been told)that is a CCY?    BTW, the ZCC 
code is still in the USCG database, assigned to C&C Yachts on  Regent St in 
NOTL, Ontario. The CCY code has apparently been reassigned to  something called 
Calder Building Co in Mesa, AZ. And there is a C&C  Boatbuilding (CCW) that is 
in Sargentville, ME.    What does Tartan.C&C use for the current models of C&C? 
   Rick Brass      -----Original Message-----  From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina  Sent: Friday, 
July 12, 2013 3:54 PM  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN 
Again - Sorry    The manufacturer codes are not something the manufacturer can 
play around  with. C&C was ASSIGNED CCY when they became a company in Canada 
and the  change was when they opened the Rhode Island plant. Once the Rhode 
Island  Plant was in operation, it was ASSIGNED CCY and at that time, the 
Canadian  plant was ASSIGNED ZCC. There was no overlap, and Candian built boats 
could  not legally have CCY as the code once the Rhode Island plant was 
operating.  It was not C&C's choice which code to use. The only way I can 
possible see a  Rhode Island boat having ZCC would be if it had something 
seriously wrong  with it when it came out of the mold, and it was shipped to 
Canada and  RE-manufactured with a new Canadian ID number.    Bill Bina    On 
7/12/2013 3:40 PM, Woody Hamel wrote:  > Thx Rick! a lot of good information. 
It certainly is beamy but my first  boat was a DS16, and then a Westerly Nomad 
22, and now this, so it makes  sense it seems so large in comparison. It was 
sold to us as a 27, but the  ownership corrected that, lol. The price was 
right, and they did some good  repairs. We even took a measuring tape from the 
bow pulpit, to the stern  rail, even then it appeared to be just shy of 27. Thx 
again, have a great  day!  > Cheers,  > Woody  > Goldfinch C&C 26  > Sent 
wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.  > Envoyé sans fil 
par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.  >  > -----Original 
Message-----  > From: Rick Brass   > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:01:04  > To:   > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again  - Sorry  >  >  > C&C Yachts used both CCY and 
ZCC as the Manufacturers Identity Code in the  >   Hull Identification Number.  
>     >   My 25 is CCY, and was built in Niagara on the Lake, Ontario according 
to  the  >   customs documentation in the builders file. I have been told that 
the 25  mk1  >   was built in Rhode Island, but my boat was built before the 
Rhode Island  >   plant was opened. (I'd actually be interested to know if 
anyone has a 25  mk1  >   with a ZCC code? And whether your builders file shows 
where it was  made.)  >         _______________________________________________ 
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