Your 25 was no doubt built in Canada and has an accurate MIC for the
Canadian plant, as the Rhode Island plant didn't exist when that boat
was built. When it was built, CCY was still the legal MIC for C&C Yachts
of Canada. That changed irrevocably when the Rhode Island plant went
online in February 1976 and the CCY MIC was assigned to Rhode Island.
Something is amiss with your paperwork if it says your 38 was built in
the U.S., yet has a ZCC MIC. There are at least a couple issues with
that. The first is that, as I stated, those numbers are not governed by
the manufacturer. You cannot randomly use different Social Security
numbers, either. The other issue is that I do not believe the Middletown
plant was building 38's in 1976. The molds were in Canada. Maybe they
left out a step, or fudged the paper work for some unknown reason. If
that hull has a ZCC MIC, then it was laid up in Canada, or else laws
were broken. If the paperwork said the incomplete hull was exported to
Rhode Island for completion, then shipped back to Canada for some
unexpected further work that could not be done in Rhode Island, or a
sale fell through, I suppose that would be plausible. The MIC portion of
the HIN legally indicates the point of origin.
Bill Bina
On 7/12/2013 10:13 PM, Rick Brass wrote:
Bill;
My 25 is certainly a CCY and the customs documentation shows it was made in
Canada and shipped to the US in very early 75.
The 38, which is a Mk1, HIN 047, has the manufacturers code ZCC. It was made
in Rhode Island in early 76, and was listed as ZCC on the customs
documentation when shipped to NOTL for "addition of optional equipment", and
also as ZCC when reimported to Mt. Clemens, MI. I'd need to check the
builders file on the boat, but IIRC, the second customs paperwork shows the
Canadian content to be about $2k of a total value of about $36K.
As I said, I'm curious whether anyone on the list has a 25 mk1 that is not a
CCY.
Now I'm curious to know if there are and 38s with HIN of 89 or lower (HIN 90
from about September 76 was the approximate break between the MK1 and the
MK2, I've been told)that is a CCY?
BTW, the ZCC code is still in the USCG database, assigned to C&C Yachts on
Regent St in NOTL, Ontario. The CCY code has apparently been reassigned to
something called Calder Building Co in Mesa, AZ. And there is a C&C
Boatbuilding (CCW) that is in Sargentville, ME.
What does Tartan.C&C use for the current models of C&C?
Rick Brass
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Subject: Re: Stus-List HIN Again - Sorry
The manufacturer codes are not something the manufacturer can play around
with. C&C was ASSIGNED CCY when they became a company in Canada and the
change was when they opened the Rhode Island plant. Once the Rhode Island
Plant was in operation, it was ASSIGNED CCY and at that time, the Canadian
plant was ASSIGNED ZCC. There was no overlap, and Candian built boats could
not legally have CCY as the code once the Rhode Island plant was operating.
It was not C&C's choice which code to use. The only way I can possible see a
Rhode Island boat having ZCC would be if it had something seriously wrong
with it when it came out of the mold, and it was shipped to Canada and
RE-manufactured with a new Canadian ID number.
Bill Bina
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