I want to chime in on this… I was going to the hamfest planning meetings and I guess it wasn’t the best choice of meetings to bring a guest but HIS time constraints dictated it.
I was trying to demonstrate that we have a “great bunch of people” in the hobby but it was polar opposite when he went with me. All he “saw” and talked about with me was the “childish bickering” that went on. He was on the fence about getting into the hobby and that event pushed him out. The one time he needed to see the good side like I had been describing was replaced with something different. Before you pass judgement on him, he is a bit autistic so it doesn’t take much to turn him off of something. I had been giving him “practice questions” to which he was getting almost all of them correct without even studying the material. I had zero doubts about him passing the tests but oh well. It’s just a shame that we couldn’t have shown some restraint and “adulting” when we were in a public place AND we had a guest. You never know what your bickering is going to do to someone outside of the club that may not understand what is going on. Mike KG4NDS From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> On Behalf Of Greg Stevens via BVARC Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 2:40 PM To: bvarc@bvarc.org Cc: Greg Stevens <stevenspa...@gmail.com>; Gokhan KORALTURK <gok...@gmail.com>; Rudolph Ackerman <rudolph_acker...@yahoo.com>; anthony moro <w5li...@gmail.com>; Richard Bonica <kg5...@gmail.com>; bvarc@bvarc.org Subject: Re: [BVARC] BOD and Hamfest meeting -- Code of Conduct Very well said. On Feb 10, 2025, at 2:04 PM, Gokhan KORALTURK via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: Maybe we should all remember this is a small volunteer based organization. We do not pay anyone to be on the board to lead, to regulate, measure, act or to do anything at all. Everyone who is a member of this club's board are working for the benefit of the club to their best abilities. You may have issues with people but please consider handling them in a manner that is befitting ladies/gentlemen that we're supposed to be. Talk, communicate and use the democracy we have. We have enough polar division and anger management issues in politics so I don't think we need more of that in our hobbies too. We are supposed to be kind and helping. We're supposed to be gentle, teaching, learning individuals. I know nowhere in FCC rules say we're supposed to be the best role models human kind can provide, but hey, I can dream! When I'm talking to people about radio amateurs that's what I try to put in their heads as an image of hams. Good gentle souls who are always there to help their fellows, who are eager to learn as much as ready to teach. Good people with good souls, weird sense of humor and way too many gadgets. But always kind and soft spoken. I rarely ever hear a bad argument on the waves. Yes there are arguments etc. but it rarely becomes insulting and attacking. (At least that's my experience with my limited time on the air) Also, I feel like remembering how people have worked in this club for a long time, how much time everyone has sacrificed is very important. We're all people, we all have our lives and sometimes things happen and we're not able to perform 100%. Just because someone may not be there for one time or two or have issues etc. cannot erase all the other times these same people have put all their own time, effort and even money for this club. A bit of appreciation for the past deeds would never go the wrong way. If if we're not happy with something, there is a good way to solve it through democracy but without being harsh or abrasive. We're all (I hope) adults. So I'd love to see us act like it. Preferably like distinguished ladies and gentlemen that I fancy us to be. 73, KG0KHN On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM terry leatherland via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: As a current member of the Board of Directors, I will address this in the proposal of a "Code of Conduct " for rf and e-communications that we all should be reverent to. I actually brought this up last year, but it was tabled. My ask is that the general public Please REFRAIN from further public commentary on this matter or from inter-personal attitudes and greviences. This is not the place for those. Once you write it, it cant be retracted, and is forever "out there", much like words spoken on the radio. This forum is for HAM Radio and BVARC awareness of activities and mentoring, whereas private attitudes towards one or more persons individually needs to be handled 1:1. Let's treat all members and officers with respect under the golden rule: "do unto others as you would have them do to you". Please be patient while we address this. Feel free to bring any issues to me personally if needed. Sincerely Terry. Bvarc BOD 2024-2025 Terry Leatherland, K5PGF 281-455-8090 Sugar Land, Tx On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 11:36:52 AM CST, Rudolph Ackerman via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: The problem is not with anyone that is posting to this thread. There is one member of the board that is the problem. He requires EVERYTHING to go through him. Then he drops the ball and NEVER follows up on anything. The first 10 - 15 minutes of meetings are him apologizing for not getting back to people. BVARC has a board or so it claims, but if you look at the web site there is only one name/contact person listed, and that one person is unreachable and does not reply to messages. During my time as a club member I saw lots of people willing to step up and help with hamfest, and other club events only to be put down, overlooked and flat out ignored by this one member. Nothing about this club will change until that member is replaced. Rudy Ackerman KF5QYG On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 09:32:57 AM CST, Richard Bonica via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: Because Emergencies happen. If a person is extremely sick, they can not get to the meeting. Look it up - You can find yourself.... Also, if a person is not answering, and as a conscientious radio operator, we should check in on them and find out what happened. As an active member, I called and found out. What do you think I should do for people that commit to a function and do their job? I have a few situations right now.... Also, what do you think I need to do as a member when I was yelled at and in a public place by an officer? As an active member, you are listed on the roster. You look for the person's call sign or name and you can find their number. Just call and ask. But please, look on the roster for w5lic - you should see at least your name. Someone please check the rules for the Goose and the Gander? Kori? you are in on this, what are your thoughts? Do we need to continue or should we stop now? I would put that question to Mike, but I know he is temporarily unavailable today.. He has a life too. You are next in command, and should be able to set the example. On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 7:50 PM anthony moro via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: I wanted to know the reason why the club president did not give notice as per the by-laws about the club BOD meeting. I know some of the board members make time to be there, why can't he? At least give notice as per the by-laws. Canceling the meeting the day of is not the right thing to do. (Article V Section G Provisions applicable to meetings of the Board of Directors shall be: 1. The board of directors shall meet monthly on the first Thursday of the month at 7:30 PM at a location voted upon at a previous board of directors meeting unless changed by a majority of the board members by giving proper notice 7 days in advance.. Special meetings may be called by either a majority of the board members or the Chairman with 7 days notice either in writing or by verbal contact with each Board member.) As for the Hamfest meeting the by-laws don't play a factor here but some common courtesy should be shown to the people that are helping the coordinator of the event. ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ -- Richard Bonica C: 281.935.7222 Email: kg5...@gmail.com<mailto:kg5...@gmail.com> Freq: 147.000 - DMR - Digital Mobile Territory: NE Fort Bend CERT, CST, EST, WEB EOC, HSEEP, FEMA PD, Wilderness First Aid, CPR, Extra Ameture Radio ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ -- Gokhan KORALTURK ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
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