Lessee.... I was trying to be ridiculous, but I feel a bit of an impulse to
provide some serious counterpoint here, this is bound to be a bad idea:
“Unfortunately they've repositioned themselves to be in favor of government
control with: book bans, white washing history, controlling women's Healthcare,
trying to ban same sex marriage, forcing religion (specifically Christianity)
into public schools, threatening to imprison the media and people who speak out
against them. “
Book Bans. Yes, grade school kids do not need books describing gay anal rape
etc. Kids need to be allowed to grow up protected from the gritty truths of
the world. Book bans are necessary to prevent greater harm.
White washing history. History is there for the reading, more content and
transparency than ever before. What has been labeled “white washing” is in
reality an attempt to bring balance to the narrative in public schools. If you
keep teaching “whitey is bad” then how do you ever expect people to be allowed
to change? The pendulum swings.
Controlling women’s healthcare. Call it what it really is, Abortion. And
for the majority of the world Abortion == Murder of an innocent child. This
will never change. So don’t “whitewash” it by calling murder “health care”.
Almost all sides understand there are medically necessary abortions and most
are not arguing about those. This is a red herring. Moreover Trump said it is
a states rights thing, he is right. Read the constitution, anything not
explicitly delineated or enumerated in the constitution is delegated to the
control of the states. Don’t like what your state is doing, work to change it
there.
Religion into schools: Our whole legal system, actually the legal system of
the entire western world is derived from Exodus chapter 20. The 10
commandments. Putting the original codified law, the list governing behavior
is not an injection of Christianity into the world of your precious little
liberals kiddies. It is a display of the origins of western civilization. And
the fact that supposedly believe in the “Rule of Law” What better exhibit than
to display the origin of that.
Who is imprisoning media personalities? You mean like Biden having the FBI
force Facebook and Twitter to silence and block their critics?
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 4:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy
Very well stated.
I hope both political parties can get closer to center in the next few years
(this is the only way our democracy can function properly), but I'm not holding
my breath. The current situation with the Republican party is only going to
make things worse on both sides of the aisle.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 4:26 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
I think you're drinking the conspiracy kool-aid with this claim. I'm 33 and
when I was in school, they needed permission to provide me something small like
Tylenol. I have family members who are teachers and kids in our family from
elementary to highschool. I'm also in Minnesota which has been blue for a long
time.
There is absolutely zero truth to kids being secretly helped to transition
with meds or operations. The claim is absurd.
The claim that people support secret transition operations is also absurd.
I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative and this is not anything I would
support. I doubt you'll find any sane adult that supports this. That means the
democratic party absolutely does not support this either.
What I and most of the party does support is talking with kids who feel their
gender doesn't match the way they were born. This means therapy, counseling,
consultations with a doctor to talk through everything. Parents should be
involved in the conversations if the child wants to do anything more than talk.
Things like medications and such should not be provided without parental and
doctor involvement. Again, there is ZERO evidence of schools providing any sort
of medical treatment, prescriptions, or operations in secret to kids. Any such
claim to the contrary is absurd. They don't have enough money for class
supplies as it is.
What I do support is the school keeping the gender identity and sexuality
private from parents IF the child feels the parents will be abusive to them if
they come out. There's plenty of examples of strict or religious parents who
would abuse or kick out a child if they came out as trans or LGBT. The privacy
protection is something I'm onboard with. Anything more than counseling should
not be allowed until parents are involved and a doctor agrees with any plans.
Ideally, no physical operations will happen until they're 18 under any
circumstances.
This is my opinion as a slightly left of center voter. Republicans should be
in full support of these views as the self proclaimed "freedom party".
Unfortunately they've repositioned themselves to be in favor of government
control with: book bans, white washing history, controlling women's Healthcare,
trying to ban same sex marriage, forcing religion (specifically Christianity)
into public schools, threatening to imprison the media and people who speak out
against them. Republicans are not about freedom anymore since Trump became
popular. I hope once he's done with his second term that the party can return
to normal.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 5:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
K-12 schools I am familiar with won't give out a Tylenol without parents
permission, I'm not sure if they can apply a bandaid. So I'm skeptical about
the meds part.
---- Original Message ----
From: ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: 12/10/2024 1:28:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy
OK, how can I strengthen the analogy? I kinda want it to have a bit of a
gotcha effect.
I am purposely trying to be a bit vague as to practitioner and meds.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 12:07 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy
That's why context is so important. "Practitioner" is pretty subjective, as
is "meds". What if the meds were LSD, methamphetamine, psilocybin, morphine?
What if the practitioner were RFK Jr?
Analogy is weak.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/10/2024 9:17 AM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
Does this idea work:
Say the school observes/detects a certain trait in your kid. The kid
seemingly agrees with the people at the school. They think that if they can
get the kid treatment, the kid will be much happier and relaxed.
So they pursue some counseling for the kid and help the kid obtain some
treatment meds from a practitioner.
All without the knowledge of the parents.
Seemingly the kid is happier and more well adjusted. They become
gregarious and outgoing and find it easier to find friends.
Nobody seems to tell the kid or be worried about the long term physical
and mental effects.
Some folks in this nation think this is totally OK.
All for the kid right.
Now, a few details I left out:
The teacher thinks the kid might be an alcoholic. There is some science
that hints that alcholism is genetic. The school thinks that it might be
helpful for the kid to explore the world of alcohol. They give the kid some
books on mixology etc. So they set up a kid bar with a bar tender to give them
their meds during the day. Spectacular results right.
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