The experience is slightly different here. My kid's school is almost too transparent about assignments. We have an app where we can see his marks on every assignment, and then my wife can harp on him whenever she sees a zero or a missing score. When I was a kid that would have driven me to rebellion.
They also have emails and robocalls going out all the time. We get notified about every fire drill, any safety incident, and any violence anywhere in the school district. I've gotten a few robocalls where the principal explained that a student had a knife in school, but nothing actually happened, and they don't believe the student intended to do anything with it. I think they must do it to stay ahead of social media. I imagine someone hears that a boy scout got his swiss army knife confiscated and then after a few spins around Facebook it turns into school sponsored Thunderdome matches with FEMA issued knives. One of the calls was about a bull missing from a pasture. The bull is not friendly. Call the police if you see it. Do not engage. We don't know about their friends except from what they tell us. It never crossed my mind to ask the school about that, and I don't know what they would tell me, if anything. Maybe I'll try it just for kicks. The scheduling is about the same. I don't know the rationale for the length or start/stop times of the school day. Maybe it has to do with labor laws? The teachers have work before and after school, but I imagine they still aren't supposed to work more than 40 hours without OT. -Adam ________________________________ From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2024 7:27 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy As a parent, I can categorically state the problem is transparency. The schools won't even inform parents what the homework assignments are, and they'll never inform the parent that assignments aren't being turned in until after the grades are out. They also won't inform parents about the "friends" their kids are keeping. My other bitch is class timing. School starts after most parents who have already left for the job and school gets out hours prior to parents getting off the job. I fail to understand this crap. How can you expect a child to do well academically when they are left to their own devices most of the day? On 12/10/24 14:45, ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: The kids are being secretly helped to transition via so-called counselors. And parents are being kept in the dark about it. We are a very red state in the reddest county and the schools have a policy preventing parental notification. I have no idea what those teachers sympathetic to the whole trans thing are actually doing in these meetings with the kids. They are getting counseling without the permission of the parents, that is for certain. I don’t think the schools should be involved in this at all, at any level, in any way. But if they want to start helping kids discover their inner alcoholic, I guess I would say that is equally or more valid. As the science behind that is much more solid... From: Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 3:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy I think you're drinking the conspiracy kool-aid with this claim. I'm 33 and when I was in school, they needed permission to provide me something small like Tylenol. I have family members who are teachers and kids in our family from elementary to highschool. I'm also in Minnesota which has been blue for a long time. There is absolutely zero truth to kids being secretly helped to transition with meds or operations. The claim is absurd. The claim that people support secret transition operations is also absurd. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative and this is not anything I would support. I doubt you'll find any sane adult that supports this. That means the democratic party absolutely does not support this either. What I and most of the party does support is talking with kids who feel their gender doesn't match the way they were born. This means therapy, counseling, consultations with a doctor to talk through everything. Parents should be involved in the conversations if the child wants to do anything more than talk. Things like medications and such should not be provided without parental and doctor involvement. Again, there is ZERO evidence of schools providing any sort of medical treatment, prescriptions, or operations in secret to kids. Any such claim to the contrary is absurd. They don't have enough money for class supplies as it is. What I do support is the school keeping the gender identity and sexuality private from parents IF the child feels the parents will be abusive to them if they come out. There's plenty of examples of strict or religious parents who would abuse or kick out a child if they came out as trans or LGBT. The privacy protection is something I'm onboard with. Anything more than counseling should not be allowed until parents are involved and a doctor agrees with any plans. Ideally, no physical operations will happen until they're 18 under any circumstances. This is my opinion as a slightly left of center voter. Republicans should be in full support of these views as the self proclaimed "freedom party". Unfortunately they've repositioned themselves to be in favor of government control with: book bans, white washing history, controlling women's Healthcare, trying to ban same sex marriage, forcing religion (specifically Christianity) into public schools, threatening to imprison the media and people who speak out against them. Republicans are not about freedom anymore since Trump became popular. I hope once he's done with his second term that the party can return to normal. On Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 5:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: K-12 schools I am familiar with won't give out a Tylenol without parents permission, I'm not sure if they can apply a bandaid. So I'm skeptical about the meds part. ---- Original Message ---- From: ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: 12/10/2024 1:28:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy OK, how can I strengthen the analogy? I kinda want it to have a bit of a gotcha effect. I am purposely trying to be a bit vague as to practitioner and meds. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 12:07 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Analogy That's why context is so important. "Practitioner" is pretty subjective, as is "meds". What if the meds were LSD, methamphetamine, psilocybin, morphine? What if the practitioner were RFK Jr? Analogy is weak. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/10/2024 9:17 AM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote: Does this idea work: Say the school observes/detects a certain trait in your kid. The kid seemingly agrees with the people at the school. They think that if they can get the kid treatment, the kid will be much happier and relaxed. So they pursue some counseling for the kid and help the kid obtain some treatment meds from a practitioner. All without the knowledge of the parents. Seemingly the kid is happier and more well adjusted. They become gregarious and outgoing and find it easier to find friends. Nobody seems to tell the kid or be worried about the long term physical and mental effects. Some folks in this nation think this is totally OK. All for the kid right. Now, a few details I left out: The teacher thinks the kid might be an alcoholic. There is some science that hints that alcholism is genetic. The school thinks that it might be helpful for the kid to explore the world of alcohol. They give the kid some books on mixology etc. So they set up a kid bar with a bar tender to give them their meds during the day. Spectacular results right. ________________________________ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ________________________________ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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