The BLM and USFS does not like diesel generators at comm sites due to spills.
They want propane.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 1:40 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
Is that why I see the Verizon cellsites with a diesel generator but the fuel
tank is inside the shelter? Also, in addition to having contractors come
periodically and service the HVAC system, I’ve seen guys there doing something
with the fuel probably Chuck’s anti-critter additive?
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 1:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
That's my point :)
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 2:46 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
You have to heat it too, it will gel.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 12:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
Because when it's -10F diesel doesn't have issues?
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
Looked at Propane as a backup for our data center and its 125KVA generator.
I believe I calculated needing three 1000 gallon tanks as -10F or something
goofy like that to get enough vapor flow. Other option was a propane
vaporizer that burned propane to vaporize liquid.
Yeah, just went with a diesel base tank.
Mark
On Dec 7, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
It is the lack of sufficient vapor, and it is a thermal runaway situation
with small tanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
So is the problem ice or liquified propane in the hose and regulator?
Or insuffient vapor pressure in the cold tank? Noting that vaporization
will make the tank contents even colder.
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From: "Robert"
Sent: 12/6/2024 8:46:32 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XG9DN74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
On 12/6/24 6:03 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
What about those wires that you wrap around a pipe and it kicks in a
bit of heat when it gets below 32 or whatever, wrap the regulator and feed line
On Fri, Dec 6, 2024, 5:27?PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
One of my customers built a solar concentrator to break water down
by high temps. They could do it but separating the gasses was the bugger that
kept them from making a successful process...
On 12/6/24 2:39 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
So if you had a hydrolyzer and compressor, you could make and
store your own hydrogen.
From: Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 3:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
"For reference, this past year I’ve been charged $4.90/gal and
$1.15/lb at two different local places to refill 20 and 30 lb portable tanks."
That is like quoting the cost of electricity based on what it
costs at a DC fast charger. Has more to do with delivery costs to move it into
your tank than it has to do with the cost of propane which is like sub $2 a gal
in MN right now.
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