Diesel can get funky.  There are critters that live in diesel and eat it and 
make it gunky.  There are treatments against those critters.  

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

Looked at Propane as a backup for our data center and its 125KVA generator.     

I believe I calculated needing three 1000 gallon tanks as -10F or something 
goofy like that to get enough vapor flow.   Other option was a propane 
vaporizer that burned propane to vaporize liquid.    

Yeah, just went with a diesel base tank.

Mark


  On Dec 7, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

  It is the lack of sufficient vapor, and it is a thermal runaway situation 
with small tanks.

  Sent from my iPhone


    On Dec 6, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:


    So is the problem ice or liquified propane in the hose and regulator?

    Or insuffient vapor pressure in the cold tank? Noting that vaporization 
will make the tank contents even colder.

    ---- Original Message ----
    From: "Robert" 
    Sent: 12/6/2024 8:46:32 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

    
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XG9DN74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1


    On 12/6/24 6:03 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

      What about those wires that you wrap around a pipe and it kicks in a bit 
of heat when it gets below 32 or whatever, wrap the regulator and feed line

      On Fri, Dec 6, 2024, 5:27?PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

        One of my customers built a solar concentrator to break water down by 
high temps.   They could do it but separating the gasses was the bugger that 
kept them from making a successful process...  


        On 12/6/24 2:39 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:

          So if you had a hydrolyzer and compressor, you could make and store 
your own hydrogen.



          From: Carl Peterson 
          Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 3:28 PM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

          "For reference, this past year I’ve been charged $4.90/gal and 
$1.15/lb at two different local places to refill 20 and 30 lb portable tanks."

          That is like quoting the cost of electricity based on what it costs 
at a DC fast charger.  Has more to do with delivery costs to move it into your 
tank than it has to do with the cost of propane which is like sub $2 a gal in 
MN right now.  


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