4 degrees F Wednesday night.  Stay up and do your test at 3am.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 10:52 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

 

I've got 2 identical propane setups ready to test, and we're slated to be a 
high of 15F on Thursday.  2000w Dual fuel generators, and full 30lb tanks.  I'm 
interested to see if a 120W heater blanket on 1 30lb tank is enough to keep it 
running if the other one shuts down.  

On 12/9/2024 10:40 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

Looked at Propane as a backup for our data center and its 125KVA generator.     

 

I believe I calculated needing three 1000 gallon tanks as -10F or something 
goofy like that to get enough vapor flow.   Other option was a propane 
vaporizer that burned propane to vaporize liquid.    

 

Yeah, just went with a diesel base tank.

 

Mark





On Dec 7, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Chuck  <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
<ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

 

It is the lack of sufficient vapor, and it is a thermal runaway situation with 
small tanks.

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On Dec 6, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof  <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> 
<khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

So is the problem ice or liquified propane in the hose and regulator?

Or insuffient vapor pressure in the cold tank? Noting that vaporization will 
make the tank contents even colder.

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From: "Robert" 
Sent: 12/6/2024 8:46:32 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

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On 12/6/24 6:03 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

What about those wires that you wrap around a pipe and it kicks in a bit of 
heat when it gets below 32 or whatever, wrap the regulator and feed line

 

On Fri, Dec 6, 2024, 5:27?PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com 
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

One of my customers built a solar concentrator to break water down by high 
temps.   They could do it but separating the gasses was the bugger that kept 
them from making a successful process...  

On 12/6/24 2:39 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>  wrote:

So if you had a hydrolyzer and compressor, you could make and store your own 
hydrogen.

 

 

 

From: Carl Peterson 

Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 3:28 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

 

"For reference, this past year I’ve been charged $4.90/gal and $1.15/lb at two 
different local places to refill 20 and 30 lb portable tanks."

 

That is like quoting the cost of electricity based on what it costs at a DC 
fast charger.  Has more to do with delivery costs to move it into your tank 
than it has to do with the cost of propane which is like sub $2 a gal in MN 
right now.  

 


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