For those that do need more, take a look at Cristie TBMR. IBM resells it:
http://www.cristie.com/recover/tbmr/
From their doc:
"TBMR allows you to perform a bare machine recovery of your system direct
from a TSM backup. Your critical systems are protected from the
consequences of physical damage, human error, or system failure. Users can
recover their protected servers to any point in time provided by TSM as
well as schedule simulated recoveries. TBMR is re-sold globally by IBM and
its channel partners as the recommended system recovery solution for TSM.
It’s currently available for Windows, Linux, Solaris and AIX operating
systems."
Thank you,
Del
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 12/14/2016
02:18:03 AM:
> From: Stefan Folkerts <stefan.folke...@gmail.com>
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 12/14/2016 02:18 AM
> Subject: Re: ISP 81 Discontinued functions
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
>
> I'm going to have to agree on this one from Tom, I also find it strange
> that IBM doesn't just offer a recovery disk or at least a good tool so
you
> only have to pick the correct B/A client and it will create it for you.
>
> Many of our clients are close to 100% virtualized but we also have
around
> 15-20% of our customers that will probably never virtualize for 100%,
they
> are running very specialized systems that require 100% of the CPU in the
> server or are transferring truly huge amounts of data that would impact
the
> other VM's if ran in VMware. So they run on physical hosts and have to
deal
> with the PE thing that is kind of hard to get over to be honest.
>
> But yes, I have made those disks and they work but the procedure for
using
> them isn't very simple so you need a windows administrator that knows
his
> stuff. Tt's not a fire and forget kind of procedure even if you have a
> working disk.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Tom Alverson <tom.alver...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The worst part about this is the extremely poor setup IBM has for
doing an
> > offline restore. They give you the instructions to create your own
boot
> > disk. I read it over and could not believe IBM did not have a nice
> > pre-made recovery boot disk like Symantec, AVAMAR and Networker do.
Are
> > there any plans for IBM to do this? Has anyone successfully made one
of
> > these do it yourself recovery disks?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim <
> > bull...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Del.
> > >
> > > Why no prior warning? This was news to me until the 8.1 GA. We have
> > several
> > > environments where BMR is based on online systemstate restore(which
works
> > > very well) and now these customers say that they are ready to roll
out
> > > Win2016. Now there is a rush to look at solutions to this sudden
problem
> > > including testing that cumbersome PE procedure to avoid a time
window
> > with
> > > no tested method for BMR.
> > >
> > > Hans Chr.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Del Hoobler <hoob...@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Hans Chr.,
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft has had this position since 2008, but IBM still tried to
> > > support
> > > > it due to customer requests. It led to too many situations where a
> > system
> > > > was unstable after a restore.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Del
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on
12/13/2016
> > > > 06:42:55 AM:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Hans Christian Riksheim <bull...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > > > Date: 12/13/2016 06:43 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ISP 81 Discontinued functions
> > > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure if I follow. Has Microsoft communicated a change
in its
> > > > > support for systemstate restores or is it just IBMs decision to
not
> > > > bother
> > > > > with it anymore?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hans Chr.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Del Hoobler
<hoob...@us.ibm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Martin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's true IBM Spectrum Protect did support online system state
> > > > restores
> > > > > > before, but it is against Microsoft's best practices to
support it.
> > > > IBM
> > > > > > Spectrum Protect 8.1 is more strictly enforcing the documented
best
> > > > > > practices from Microsoft for system state restores.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IBM did not drop the API support for LoP BE specifically so
that
> > Data
> > > > > > Protection for SAP HANA on Power BE continues to be supported.
> > > > However,
> > > > > > IBM's strategic direction is LoP LE (
> > > > > >
> > > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-
> > > power-little-endian-faq-trs/
> > > > > > ). Both SAP and Data Protection for SAP HANA have LoP LE
support on
> > > > the
> > > > > > roadmap for 1H17. Your investment in Linux on Power is safe,
it is
> > > > just
> > > > > > that the software will switch to LE architecture from current
BE
> > > > > > architecture in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Del
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on
> > 12/12/2016
> > > > > > 10:18:18 AM:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Martin Janosik <martin.jano...@cz.ibm.com>
> > > > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > > > > > Date: 12/12/2016 10:19 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISP 81 Discontinued functions
> > > > > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm also a bit nervous and curoius at the same time about
> > > > discontinued
> > > > > > > functions, namely:
> > > > > > > Online system state restores - You can no longer restore the
> > system
> > > > > > state
> > > > > > > on a system that is online. Instead, use the Automated
System
> > > > Recovery
> > > > > > > (ASR) based recovery method to restore the system state in
> > offline
> > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > > Preinstallation Environment (PE) mode.
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > The following operating systems are no longer supported by
the
> > > > > > > backup-archive client:
> > > > > > > Linux on Power Systems™ (big endian). You can still use the
IBM
> > > > Spectrum
> > > > > > > Protect API on Linux on Power Systems (big endian).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the idea behind "to be competive with x86 platform
and
> > get
> > > > > > > compativility certification for SAP HANA with Linux on Power
> > > > platform
> > > > > > (Big
> > > > > > > Endian)" (ref.
> > > > > > > https://blogs.saphana.com/2015/08/21/announcing-general-
> > > > > > > availability-of-sap-hana-on-ibm-power-systems/
> > > > > > > ) and then 1.5 year later drop support of BAclient for OS"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We deployed 10+ big SAP HANA on Power8 instances last year,
and
> > now
> > > > we
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > be getting "not supported" for new releases?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > M. Janosik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on
> > > 12/09/2016
> > > > > > > 02:45:34 PM:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Chavdar Cholev <chavdar.cho...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > > > > > > Date: 12/09/2016 02:47 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [ADSM-L] ISP 81 Discontinued functions
> > > > > > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does some one check discontinued functions in new
version...
> > > > > > > > especially part of no VM backup as standard function in BA
> > > > client....
> > > > > > > > It is not good at all. TDP for Virtual environment for
hyper-V
> > > > creats
> > > > > > > diff
> > > > > > > > hdds (.avhdx)
> > > > > > > > and my customers will not be happy with this, because you
have
> > to
> > > > > > merge
> > > > > > > > these file,
> > > > > > > > when you need to expand .vhdx disk for example ....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :(
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > Cahvdar
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
