Hi Del. Why no prior warning? This was news to me until the 8.1 GA. We have several environments where BMR is based on online systemstate restore(which works very well) and now these customers say that they are ready to roll out Win2016. Now there is a rush to look at solutions to this sudden problem including testing that cumbersome PE procedure to avoid a time window with no tested method for BMR.
Hans Chr. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Del Hoobler <hoob...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > Hi Hans Chr., > > Microsoft has had this position since 2008, but IBM still tried to support > it due to customer requests. It led to too many situations where a system > was unstable after a restore. > > > Del > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 12/13/2016 > 06:42:55 AM: > > > From: Hans Christian Riksheim <bull...@gmail.com> > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Date: 12/13/2016 06:43 AM > > Subject: Re: ISP 81 Discontinued functions > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > > > I am not sure if I follow. Has Microsoft communicated a change in its > > support for systemstate restores or is it just IBMs decision to not > bother > > with it anymore? > > > > Hans Chr. > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Del Hoobler <hoob...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Martin, > > > > > > It's true IBM Spectrum Protect did support online system state > restores > > > before, but it is against Microsoft's best practices to support it. > IBM > > > Spectrum Protect 8.1 is more strictly enforcing the documented best > > > practices from Microsoft for system state restores. > > > > > > IBM did not drop the API support for LoP BE specifically so that Data > > > Protection for SAP HANA on Power BE continues to be supported. > However, > > > IBM's strategic direction is LoP LE ( > > > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-power-little-endian-faq-trs/ > > > ). Both SAP and Data Protection for SAP HANA have LoP LE support on > the > > > roadmap for 1H17. Your investment in Linux on Power is safe, it is > just > > > that the software will switch to LE architecture from current BE > > > architecture in the future. > > > > > > Del > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 12/12/2016 > > > 10:18:18 AM: > > > > > > > From: Martin Janosik <martin.jano...@cz.ibm.com> > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > > Date: 12/12/2016 10:19 AM > > > > Subject: Re: ISP 81 Discontinued functions > > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > > > > > > > I'm also a bit nervous and curoius at the same time about > discontinued > > > > functions, namely: > > > > Online system state restores - You can no longer restore the system > > > state > > > > on a system that is online. Instead, use the Automated System > Recovery > > > > (ASR) based recovery method to restore the system state in offline > > > Windows > > > > Preinstallation Environment (PE) mode. > > > > and > > > > The following operating systems are no longer supported by the > > > > backup-archive client: > > > > Linux on Power Systems™ (big endian). You can still use the IBM > Spectrum > > > > Protect API on Linux on Power Systems (big endian). > > > > > > > > What is the idea behind "to be competive with x86 platform and get > > > > compativility certification for SAP HANA with Linux on Power > platform > > > (Big > > > > Endian)" (ref. > > > > https://blogs.saphana.com/2015/08/21/announcing-general- > > > > availability-of-sap-hana-on-ibm-power-systems/ > > > > ) and then 1.5 year later drop support of BAclient for OS"? > > > > > > > > We deployed 10+ big SAP HANA on Power8 instances last year, and now > we > > > will > > > > be getting "not supported" for new releases? > > > > > > > > M. Janosik > > > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 12/09/2016 > > > > 02:45:34 PM: > > > > > > > > > From: Chavdar Cholev <chavdar.cho...@gmail.com> > > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > > > Date: 12/09/2016 02:47 PM > > > > > Subject: [ADSM-L] ISP 81 Discontinued functions > > > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > Does some one check discontinued functions in new version... > > > > > especially part of no VM backup as standard function in BA > client.... > > > > > It is not good at all. TDP for Virtual environment for hyper-V > creats > > > > diff > > > > > hdds (.avhdx) > > > > > and my customers will not be happy with this, because you have to > > > merge > > > > > these file, > > > > > when you need to expand .vhdx disk for example .... > > > > > > > > > > :( > > > > > Regards > > > > > Cahvdar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
