I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at bugs.webkit.org. And Apple were also asking me to: - Try iOS 14 beta. - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report
Cheers Seb Sebastian Wagner Director Arrakeen Solutions http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > Sure I can put music on > > > > On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Hello Jason, > > Thanks, that would be awesome :) > Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I can't > test it ...) > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > >> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >> >> J >> >> >> >> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >> >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Nothing todo. >>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>> >>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Seb >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>> >>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> ................. >>> >>> >>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>> >>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference >>> code examples at: >>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>> >>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I >>> would be worth validating. >>> >>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit a >>> ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >>> >>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Seb >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>> >>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as well >>> as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They are open >>> source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>> >>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some >>> special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>> >>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>> >>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Seb >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Not sure if I can help :( >>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix something >>> I can't reproduce :(( ) >>> >>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok, these are the result >>> >>> >>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>> >>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *YES* >>> >>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *NO* >>> >>> *===========* >>> >>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>> >>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super sensitive >>> >>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive >>> and dry >>> >>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>> >>> >>> .............. >>> >>> >>> >>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>> >>> Oh sure! >>> >>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>> >>> If you test with those additionally on >>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>> >>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>> >>> @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> from my tests actually my >>> Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange >>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! >>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in Safari, >>> or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API (and >>> Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Seb >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Sebastian, >>> >>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>> >>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>> >>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>> >>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>> >>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>> >>> >>> >>> ........................... >>> >>> >>> >>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>> >>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>> >>> For example: >>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>> or >>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>> >>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop (which >>> is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does playback >>> the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it will lead >>> to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>> >>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to work. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sebastian >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>> >>> >>> ..................... >>> >>> >>> >>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>> >>> Ok, here is my test in: >>> >>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>> >>> >>> >>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>> >>> When try recording appear a red message: >>> >>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>> >>> Can't record (play) >>> >>> =============== >>> >>> >>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>> >>> When try recording appear a red message: >>> >>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>> >>> Can't record (play) >>> >>> =============== >>> >>> >>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>> >>> Can't record (play) >>> >>> =============== >>> >>> >>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>> >>> Can't record (play) >>> >>> =============== >>> >>> >>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>> >>> Can't record (play) >>> >>> =============== >>> >>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>> me, can understand. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>> >>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>> >>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>> >>> >>> ................ >>> >>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>> >>> Hello Alvaro, >>> >>> Please re-read my message >>> >>> ============= >>> Hello Safari owners :) >>> Could you please visit >>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is >>> it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>> Thanks in advance :)) >>> ============= >>> >>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with >>> 11? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar >>> mic >>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>> >>> .................... >>> >>> >>> >>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft >>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected >>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>> > >>> > @Sebastian, >>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should >>> > be added to OM UI .... >>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ... >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmai >>> > l.com> wrote: >>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>> > > >>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time >>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they >>> > > won't try again. >>> > > >>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta >>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not >>> > > getting angry! >>> > > >>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for >>> > > example? >>> > > >>> > > Thanks >>> > > Seb >>> > > >>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>> > > > >>> > > > ................. >>> > > > >>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be >>> > > > > improved >>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>> > > > > >>> > > > > @All, >>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to >>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagne >>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github. >>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work >>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems >>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>> > > > > > however works fine. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks >>> > > > > > Seb >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm >>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.w >>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and >>> > > > > > > > audio >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture >>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to >>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or >>> > > > > > > > not. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Seb >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66 >>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM >>> > > > > > > > :((( >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to >>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <se >>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma >>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it) >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, >>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on >>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio >>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio >>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some >>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples >>> > > > > > > > broken for >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings >>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see >>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach >>> > > > > > > > this ? >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- >>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > -- >>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>> > > > > > > Maxim >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -- >>> > > > > Best regards, >>> > > > > Maxim >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Best regards, >>> > Maxim >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > >