Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. If i can do something, please tell me clear what... Thanks
................. El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: > The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference > code examples at: > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ > > I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I > would be worth validating. > > Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit > a ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. > > So I may try that and see if that gives some results. > > Thanks, > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > > I do see a few other video conferring products that have an > > app as well as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic > > issue. They are open source so we could look and see what they did > > to resolve the issue. > > J > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. > > > My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and > > > some special Safari settings that need to be considered: > > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio > > > > > > But there is very little in terms of finding out what > > > capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Seb > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Not sure if I can help :(I only have access to iMac which works > > > > as expected (can't fix something I can't reproduce :(( ) > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Ok, these are the result > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping > > > > > YES > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping > > > > > NO > > > > > =========== > > > > > In > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound super > > > > > sensitive > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound no > > > > > sensitive and dry > > > > > ...something more? ...Avanti! > > > > > > > > > > .............. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > Oh sure! > > > > > > I am just interested in - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic > > > > > > green bar NO > > > > > > > > > > > > If you test with those additionally on > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > > > > > > > > and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its > > > > > > working!) > > > > > > > > > > > > @Maxim Solodovnik from my tests actually my Safari works > > > > > > fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange > > > > > > how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! > > > > > > I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API > > > > > > change in Safari, or if there something wrong with how > > > > > > OpenMeetings is using the API (and Safari13 exposing that > > > > > > in some way). > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Sebastian, > > > > > > > Could you please be a little more explicite? > > > > > > > Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard > > > > > > > drivepartition, then i must reboot the machine to go from > > > > > > > one toother OSX, and that is a little heavy. > > > > > > > So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the > > > > > > > test,with what browser and what examples in concret? > > > > > > > There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my > > > > > > > OSXesin the iMac, is also Yosemite). > > > > > > > Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: > > > > > > > > Could you try also some of the official examples from: > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate > > > > > > > > feedback loop (which is quite annoying :)) But it > > > > > > > > actually means that it works! It does playback the > > > > > > > > sound directly again, and if you are not using a > > > > > > > > headset, it will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Safari I have limited success with those. But they > > > > > > > > still seem to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro < > > > > > > > > zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes > > > > > > > > > resultat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > Ok, here is my test in: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.11.6 - Safari 11.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green > > > > > > > > > > bar NO > > > > > > > > > > When try recording appear a red message: > > > > > > > > > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.12.6 - Safari 12.0.2 - Cam yes - Mic green > > > > > > > > > > bar YES > > > > > > > > > > When try recording appear a red message: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.13.6 - Safari 12.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green > > > > > > > > > > bar YES > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic > > > > > > > > > > green bar NO > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green > > > > > > > > > > bar NO > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, > > > > > > > > > > please tell me, > > > > > > > > > > but with words that those have not the tecnical > > > > > > > > > > knowting, like > > > > > > > > > > me, can understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ................ > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Alvaro, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please re-read my message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============= > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings > > > > > > > > > > > > and tell me is it works as expected in Safari > > > > > > > > > > > > browser (11+) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > ============= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please test this page with all Safari > > > > > > > > > > > > versions starting with 11? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro < > > > > > > > > > > > > zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private > > > > > > > > > > > > > room ==> No green bar > > > > > > > > > > > > > mic > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one hour will test other safari versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please > > > > > > > > > > > > > visit https://om.alteametasoft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell > > > > > > > > > > > > > me is it works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Safari browser (11+) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13, I'm not sure It should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be added to OM UI .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > languages and maintain ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then > > > > > > > > > > > > > its prob fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The experience for a brand new user > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying it for the first time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usually means they consider the > > > > > > > > > > > > > application not ready and they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > is currently only beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support" it would definitely help a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > to manage those users not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting angry! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could just add a simple warning info > > > > > > > > > > > > > text on the login page for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro < > > > > > > > > > > > > > zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, release as-is... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > switches can enable sound at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some > > > > > > > > > > > > > insight of what can be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test > > > > > > > > > > > > > application is useful anyhow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent > > > > > > > > > > > > > additional month+ trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No but the generic test > > > > > > > > > > > > > application at https://webrtc.github. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ se > > > > > > > > > > > > > ems to work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better now after restarting my > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mac. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > application setup application seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to not do much when recording the > > > > > > > > > > > > > stream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio/mic is enabled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd device when using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari device. Chrome > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however works fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I > > > > > > > > > > > > > noticed some "WebRTC" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you > > > > > > > > > > > > > have it on Safari 13? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced support for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio/video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ri_11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Includes updated media > > > > > > > > > > > > > controls for HTML5 video and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web > > > > > > > > > > > > > technologies such as WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>;, Media > > > > > > > > > > > > > Capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > API, Resource > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes > > > > > > > > > > > > > and more.[63] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cite_note-63> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there > > > > > > > > > > > > > are quite a lot of changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure, would be good to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a few more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a > > > > > > > > > > > > > generic Safari13 limitation or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but have no idea where ATM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > August without any access to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet (maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before > > > > > > > > > > > > > my vacation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <se > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get > > > > > > > > > > > > > real iMac to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have no rights to update it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as > > > > > > > > > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next > > > > > > > > > > > > > as-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My steps were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter > > > > > > > > > > > > > restricted room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only > > > > > > > > > > > > > broadcasting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is > > > > > > > > > > > > > jumping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20.04+Chromium latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio in the room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > iMac for couple more hours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please let me know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any > > > > > > > > > > > > > additional tests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few > > > > > > > > > > > > > email discussions: Safari on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iOS does not capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> audio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that > > > > > > > > > > > > > playback is fine. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > capturing audio does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two > > > > > > > > > > > > > tickets we have: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixing the capture of audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some > > > > > > > > > > > > > other subject but we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > established that that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> cause) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixing the capture of audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are various > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions where some think some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code change on our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even > > > > > > > > > > > > > the official webRTC samples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > samples section: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion at discuss-webRTC : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue inside OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is rather complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other > > > > > > > > > > > > > code. So I would like to see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a simple minimal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If > > > > > > > > > > > > > that works fine, I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions > > > > > > > > > > > > > or ideas on how to approach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or > > > > > > > > > > > > > not an answer on discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC I would also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurento mailing lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
