Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get their dev team to investigate.
Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses Safari. Thanks, Seb Sebastian Wagner Director Arrakeen Solutions http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > Any update on this? I have had to abandon using this until we users with > iPad and iPhones can use. > > J > > > > On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think. I can try the WebRTC. I did setup Maxim to > have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had music playing > and camera. > > > > On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ? > Or both ? :) > > I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point towards > the official webRTC reference examples at: > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ > > Thanks, > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > >> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta. I have tried on iPhone and iPad. >> >> J >> >> >> >> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at bugs.webkit.org. >> >> And Apple were also asking me to: >> - Try iOS 14 beta. >> - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report >> >> Cheers >> Seb >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >> >> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >> >>> Sure I can put music on >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello Jason, >>> >>> Thanks, that would be awesome :) >>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I can't >>> test it ...) >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >>>> >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing todo. >>>>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>>>> >>>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Seb >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>>>> >>>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ................. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>> >>>>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference >>>>> code examples at: >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>> >>>>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I >>>>> would be worth validating. >>>>> >>>>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit >>>>> a ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >>>>> >>>>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Seb >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as >>>>> well as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They >>>>> are >>>>> open source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue. >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>>>> >>>>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some >>>>> special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>>>> >>>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>>>> >>>>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>>>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Seb >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if I can help :( >>>>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix >>>>> something I can't reproduce :(( ) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, these are the result >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>> >>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *YES* >>>>> >>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *NO* >>>>> >>>>> *===========* >>>>> >>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>> >>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super >>>>> sensitive >>>>> >>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive >>>>> and dry >>>>> >>>>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .............. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>> >>>>> Oh sure! >>>>> >>>>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar >>>>> *NO* >>>>> >>>>> If you test with those additionally on >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>> >>>>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>>>> >>>>> @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> from my tests actually my >>>>> Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange >>>>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! >>>>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in >>>>> Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API >>>>> (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Seb >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Sebastian, >>>>> >>>>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>>>> >>>>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>>>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>>>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>>>> >>>>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>>>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>>>> >>>>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>>>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>>>> >>>>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ........................... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>> >>>>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>> >>>>> For example: >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>> or >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>> >>>>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop >>>>> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does >>>>> playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it >>>>> will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>>>> >>>>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sebastian >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ..................... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>> >>>>> Ok, here is my test in: >>>>> >>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>> >>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>> >>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>> >>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>> >>>>> =============== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>> >>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>> >>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>> >>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>> >>>>> =============== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>> >>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>> >>>>> =============== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>> >>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>> >>>>> =============== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>> >>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>> >>>>> =============== >>>>> >>>>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>>>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>>>> me, can understand. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>> >>>>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ................ >>>>> >>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Alvaro, >>>>> >>>>> Please re-read my message >>>>> >>>>> ============= >>>>> Hello Safari owners :) >>>>> Could you please visit >>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me >>>>> is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>>>> Thanks in advance :)) >>>>> ============= >>>>> >>>>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with >>>>> 11? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar >>>>> mic >>>>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>>>> >>>>> .................... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit >>>>> https://om.alteametasoft >>>>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected >>>>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>>>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>>>> > >>>>> > @Sebastian, >>>>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should >>>>> > be added to OM UI .... >>>>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ... >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>> <seba.wagner@gmai >>>>> > l.com> wrote: >>>>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>>>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time >>>>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they >>>>> > > won't try again. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta >>>>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not >>>>> > > getting angry! >>>>> > > >>>>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for >>>>> > > example? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Thanks >>>>> > > Seb >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > ................. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>>>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be >>>>> > > > > improved >>>>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > @All, >>>>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to >>>>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>>>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>> <seba.wagne >>>>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github >>>>> . >>>>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work >>>>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>>>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems >>>>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>>>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>>>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>>>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>>>> > > > > > however works fine. >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Thanks >>>>> > > > > > Seb >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm >>>>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>>>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>>>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>>>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>> <seba.w >>>>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>>>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>>>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and >>>>> > > > > > > > audio >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture >>>>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly < >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>>>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>>>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>>>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to >>>>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or >>>>> > > > > > > > not. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Seb >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>>>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>>>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66 >>>>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM >>>>> > > > > > > > :((( >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to >>>>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>> <se >>>>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>>>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>>>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma >>>>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it) >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, >>>>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>> < >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on >>>>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>>>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>>>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some >>>>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples >>>>> > > > > > > > broken for >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>>>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>>>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings >>>>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see >>>>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>>>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach >>>>> > > > > > > > this ? >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- >>>>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>>>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>>>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>> > > > > > > Maxim >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > Best regards, >>>>> > > > > Maxim >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>>
