Hello Jason, I was busy with day-time job and other issues Now I can investigate this one Will send you personal email :)
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > With iPad/iPhone it doesn’t work with any browsers. If it was just as easy > as use - a different browser than that would be ok. > > J > > > > On Thursday, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get their dev > team to investigate. > > Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses Safari. > > Thanks, > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > >> Any update on this? I have had to abandon using this until we users with >> iPad and iPhones can use. >> >> J >> >> >> >> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >> Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think. I can try the WebRTC. I did setup Maxim to >> have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had music playing >> and camera. >> >> >> >> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ? >> Or both ? :) >> >> I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point >> towards the official webRTC reference examples at: >> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >> >> Thanks, >> Seb >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >> >> >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >> >>> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta. I have tried on iPhone and iPad. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at bugs.webkit.org. >>> >>> And Apple were also asking me to: >>> - Try iOS 14 beta. >>> - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report >>> >>> Cheers >>> Seb >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Sure I can put music on >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello Jason, >>>> >>>> Thanks, that would be awesome :) >>>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I can't >>>> test it ...) >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >>>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nothing todo. >>>>>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Seb >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>>>>> >>>>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ................. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference >>>>>> code examples at: >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I >>>>>> would be worth validating. >>>>>> >>>>>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit >>>>>> a ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Seb >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as >>>>>> well as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They >>>>>> are >>>>>> open source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> J >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>>>>> >>>>>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some >>>>>> special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>>>>> >>>>>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>>>>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Seb >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure if I can help :( >>>>>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix >>>>>> something I can't reproduce :(( ) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, these are the result >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *YES* >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *NO* >>>>>> >>>>>> *===========* >>>>>> >>>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super >>>>>> sensitive >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive >>>>>> and dry >>>>>> >>>>>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .............. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh sure! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar >>>>>> *NO* >>>>>> >>>>>> If you test with those additionally on >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>> >>>>>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>>>>> >>>>>> @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> from my tests actually my >>>>>> Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange >>>>>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! >>>>>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in >>>>>> Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the >>>>>> API >>>>>> (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Seb >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Sebastian, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>>>>> >>>>>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>>>>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>>>>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>>>>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>>>>> >>>>>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>>>>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>>>>> >>>>>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ........................... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For example: >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>> or >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>> >>>>>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop >>>>>> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does >>>>>> playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it >>>>>> will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to >>>>>> work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ..................... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, here is my test in: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>> >>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>> >>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>> >>>>>> =============== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>>> >>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>> >>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>> >>>>>> =============== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>> >>>>>> =============== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>> >>>>>> =============== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>> >>>>>> =============== >>>>>> >>>>>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>>>>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>>>>> me, can understand. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ................ >>>>>> >>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Alvaro, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please re-read my message >>>>>> >>>>>> ============= >>>>>> Hello Safari owners :) >>>>>> Could you please visit >>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me >>>>>> is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>> Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>> ============= >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting >>>>>> with 11? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar >>>>>> mic >>>>>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>>>>> >>>>>> .................... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit >>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft >>>>>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected >>>>>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > @Sebastian, >>>>>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should >>>>>> > be added to OM UI .... >>>>>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain >>>>>> ... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> <seba.wagner@gmai >>>>>> > l.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>>>>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time >>>>>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they >>>>>> > > won't try again. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta >>>>>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not >>>>>> > > getting angry! >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for >>>>>> > > example? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Thanks >>>>>> > > Seb >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > ................. >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>>>>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be >>>>>> > > > > improved >>>>>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > @All, >>>>>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to >>>>>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>>>>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> <seba.wagne >>>>>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at >>>>>> https://webrtc.github. >>>>>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work >>>>>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>>>>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems >>>>>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>>>>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>>>>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>>>>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>>>>> > > > > > however works fine. >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > Thanks >>>>>> > > > > > Seb >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>> <solomax666@gm >>>>>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>>>>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>>>>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>>>>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> <seba.w >>>>>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>>>>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>>>>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and >>>>>> > > > > > > > audio >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as >>>>>> WebRTC >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media >>>>>> Capture >>>>>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly < >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>>>>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>>>>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>>>>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good >>>>>> to >>>>>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or >>>>>> > > > > > > > not. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Seb >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>>>>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>>>>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>> <solomax66 >>>>>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where >>>>>> ATM >>>>>> > > > > > > > :((( >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access >>>>>> to >>>>>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> <se >>>>>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>>>>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>>>>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>> <soloma >>>>>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it) >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more >>>>>> hours, >>>>>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> < >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on >>>>>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>>>>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>>>>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some >>>>>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples >>>>>> > > > > > > > broken for >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>>>>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>>>>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside >>>>>> OpenMeetings >>>>>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to >>>>>> see >>>>>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>>>>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to >>>>>> approach >>>>>> > > > > > > > this ? >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- >>>>>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>>>>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>>>>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > -- >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > -- >>>>>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>> > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > -- >>>>>> > > > > Best regards, >>>>>> > > > > Maxim >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>> > Maxim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> -- Best regards, Maxim
