Nothing todo. I was just updating on what I found out. So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not.
Thanks Seb Sent from my iPhone > On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. > > If i can do something, please tell me clear what... > > Thanks > > > ................. > > >> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference code >> examples at: >> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >> >> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I would >> be worth validating. >> >> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit a >> ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >> >> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >> >> Thanks, >> Seb >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>> >>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as well as >>> web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They are open >>> source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>> <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>>> >>>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some >>>> special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>>> >>>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Not sure if I can help :( >>>>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix something I >>>>> can't reproduce :(( ) >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, these are the result >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping YES >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping NO >>>>>> >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound super sensitive >>>>>> >>>>>> # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive and dry >>>>>> >>>>>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .............. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>>> Oh sure! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am just interested in - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you test with those additionally on >>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Maxim Solodovnik from my tests actually my Safari works fine with >>>>>>> some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange how old Safari >>>>>>> versions would work and later ones don't! >>>>>>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in >>>>>>> Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the >>>>>>> API (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Sebastian, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>>>>>>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>>>>>>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>>>>>>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>>>>>>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ........................... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>>>>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example: >>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop >>>>>>>>> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It >>>>>>>>> does playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a >>>>>>>>> headset, it will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to >>>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ..................... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, here is my test in: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # OSX 10.11.6 - Safari 11.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # OSX 10.12.6 - Safari 12.0.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar YES >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # OSX 10.13.6 - Safari 12.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar YES >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>>>>>>>>>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>>>>>>>>>> me, can understand. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ................ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Alvaro, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please re-read my message >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============= >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Safari owners :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell >>>>>>>>>>>>> me is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============= >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting >>>>>>>>>>>>> with 11? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .................... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://om.alteametasoft >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > expected >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > @Sebastian, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > be added to OM UI .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > maintain ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <seba.wagner@gmai >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > l.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > won't try again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > beta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > users not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > getting angry! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > example? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Seb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > ................. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > improved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > @All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > <seba.wagne >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > https://webrtc.github. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > work >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > however works fine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Seb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > <solomax666@gm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > <seba.w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > video and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > audio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > WebRTC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Capture >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > good to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > limitation or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Seb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <solomax66 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > where ATM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > :((( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > access to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com <se >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> <soloma >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> update it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> hours, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> think some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> samples >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > broken for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> approach >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > this ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> discuss- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
