Hello Jason, I still have no access to any Mac, so no updates
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:49, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: > Any update on the iOS audio issue? > > J > > > > On Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < > [email protected]> wrote: > The JIRA I have mentioned is about Network testing tool > Not audio .... > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 16:23, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I can recheck but I was testing just 3 days ago and there was still no >> audio that you can record in Safari. >> >> But I can check that other parts are working better now or not >> >> Let me verify. >> >> Thanks >> Seb >> >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 20:19, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Can someone check this JIRA >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2371 >>> using Safari? >>> >>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 13:39, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ...same result as Sebastian on both Safari versions: >>>> >>>> OSX 10.15.6 >>>> Safari Version 13.1.2 (before update) >>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610) (after update) >>>> iMac >>>> >>>> >>>> ...if need any other test plaese say it. >>>> >>>> .................... >>>> >>>> >>>> El dom, 20-09-2020 a las 17:17 +1200, [email protected] escribió: >>>> >>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io .... >>>> => If the reference examples on the official https://github.com/webrtc are >>>> not working I see little chance that the issue is within the OpenMeetings >>>> code. >>>> >>>> In saying that - there might be still settings within the OM code >>>> relating to webRTC/Safari that may be worth looking into! >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 16:11, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io .... >>>> >>>> So, you got valid stream on Safari >>>> But there is still no audio in the room >>>> >>>> interesting >>>> >>>> I'll prepare another test >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:53, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> webRTC give some feedback but I think its still broken. >>>> >>>> You can try yourself at: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/audio/ >>>> >>>> If you hit "call" and watch below, there is no KB/data being send. >>>> >>>> I also had a quick look in a OM conference room and the OM device >>>> settings testing app: The green dot doesn't do anything. There is no audio >>>> sound being sent to the server. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:43, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Sebastian :) >>>> >>>> Do you have audio in the room working? >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:41, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html >>>> [image: image.png] >>>> >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html >>>> [image: image.png] >>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610) >>>> MacBookPro OSX 10.15.6 >>>> >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:24, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Safari owners, >>>> >>>> If you have Safari 13 and (since today) Safari 14 >>>> Can you please do the following test: >>>> >>>> using your Safari 13/14 >>>> 1) open https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html >>>> 2) share results you can see on screen >>>> 3) close tab >>>> 4) open >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html >>>> 5) Click the button with "Click me" label >>>> 6) share results you can see on screen >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance :) >>>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 22:43, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> Thanks to Jason I can debug on his Mac and now I can see what is >>>> happening: >>>> >>>> In the very beginning >>>> Video track has readyState == "live" >>>> Audio track has readyState == "ended" >>>> >>>> According to MDN >>>> >>>> - "ended" which indicates that the input is not giving any more >>>> data and will never provide new data. >>>> >>>> So far I have no idea why this happens >>>> I can guess this is sort of security restriction to not allow "evil >>>> hackers" to record your beautiful voice >>>> >>>> Will try to investigate more >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:35, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Jason, >>>> >>>> I was busy with day-time job and other issues >>>> Now I can investigate this one >>>> Will send you personal email :) >>>> >>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> With iPad/iPhone it doesn’t work with any browsers. If it was just as >>>> easy as use - a different browser than that would be ok. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get their >>>> dev team to investigate. >>>> >>>> Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses >>>> Safari. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Any update on this? I have had to abandon using this until we users >>>> with iPad and iPhones can use. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think. I can try the WebRTC. I did setup Maxim >>>> to have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had music >>>> playing and camera. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ? >>>> Or both ? :) >>>> >>>> I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point >>>> towards the official webRTC reference examples at: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta. I have tried on iPhone and iPad. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at bugs.webkit.org. >>>> >>>> And Apple were also asking me to: >>>> - Try iOS 14 beta. >>>> - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sure I can put music on >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello Jason, >>>> >>>> Thanks, that would be awesome :) >>>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I can't >>>> test it ...) >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >>>> >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nothing todo. >>>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>>> >>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>>> >>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> ................. >>>> >>>> >>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, [email protected] escribió: >>>> >>>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference >>>> code examples at: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>> >>>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I >>>> would be worth validating. >>>> >>>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit a >>>> ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >>>> >>>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as well >>>> as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They are open >>>> source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>>> >>>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some >>>> special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>>> >>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>>> >>>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if I can help :( >>>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix something >>>> I can't reproduce :(( ) >>>> >>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, these are the result >>>> >>>> >>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>> >>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *YES* >>>> >>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *NO* >>>> >>>> *===========* >>>> >>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>> >>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super sensitive >>>> >>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive >>>> and dry >>>> >>>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>>> >>>> >>>> .............. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, [email protected] escribió: >>>> >>>> Oh sure! >>>> >>>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar >>>> *NO* >>>> >>>> If you test with those additionally on >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>> >>>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>>> >>>> @Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> from my tests actually my >>>> Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange >>>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! >>>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in >>>> Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API >>>> (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Sebastian, >>>> >>>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>>> >>>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>>> >>>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>>> >>>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>>> >>>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ........................... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, [email protected] escribió: >>>> >>>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>> >>>> For example: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>> or >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>> >>>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop >>>> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does >>>> playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it >>>> will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>>> >>>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to >>>> work. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>>> >>>> >>>> ..................... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>> >>>> Ok, here is my test in: >>>> >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>> >>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>> >>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>> >>>> Can't record (play) >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> >>>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>> >>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>> >>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>> >>>> Can't record (play) >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> >>>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>> >>>> Can't record (play) >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> >>>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>> >>>> Can't record (play) >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> >>>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>> >>>> Can't record (play) >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>>> me, can understand. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>> >>>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>>> >>>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>>> >>>> >>>> ................ >>>> >>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>> >>>> Hello Alvaro, >>>> >>>> Please re-read my message >>>> >>>> ============= >>>> Hello Safari owners :) >>>> Could you please visit >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me >>>> is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>>> Thanks in advance :)) >>>> ============= >>>> >>>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with >>>> 11? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar >>>> mic >>>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>>> >>>> .................... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft >>>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected >>>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>>> > >>>> > @Sebastian, >>>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should >>>> > be added to OM UI .... >>>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, [email protected] <seba.wagner@gmai >>>> > l.com> wrote: >>>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>>> > > >>>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time >>>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they >>>> > > won't try again. >>>> > > >>>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta >>>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not >>>> > > getting angry! >>>> > > >>>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for >>>> > > example? >>>> > > >>>> > > Thanks >>>> > > Seb >>>> > > >>>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>>> > > > >>>> > > > ................. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be >>>> > > > > improved >>>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > @All, >>>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to >>>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, [email protected] <seba.wagne >>>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github. >>>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work >>>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems >>>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>>> > > > > > however works fine. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Thanks >>>> > > > > > Seb >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm >>>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, [email protected] <seba.w >>>> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and >>>> > > > > > > > audio >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture >>>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to >>>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or >>>> > > > > > > > not. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Seb >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66 >>>> > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM >>>> > > > > > > > :((( >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to >>>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, [email protected] <se >>>> > > > > > > > [email protected]> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma >>>> > > > > > > > [email protected]> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it) >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, >>>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, [email protected] < >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on >>>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio >>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some >>>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples >>>> > > > > > > > broken for >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings >>>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see >>>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach >>>> > > > > > > > this ? >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- >>>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > -- >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > -- >>>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>>> > > > > > > Maxim >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -- >>>> > > > > Best regards, >>>> > > > > Maxim >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
