I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as well as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. They are open source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue.
J > On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > <seba.wag...@gmail.com (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com)> wrote: > There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. > > My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some special > Safari settings that need to be considered: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio > > But there is very little in terms of finding out what > capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. > > Thanks, > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > (mailto:solomax...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Not sure if I can help :( > > I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix something I > > can't reproduce :(( ) > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com > > (mailto:zurca...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, these are the result > > > > > > > > > In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping YES > > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound looping NO > > > > > > =========== > > > > > > In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ > > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound super sensitive > > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive and dry > > > > > > ...something more? ...Avanti! > > > > > > > > > .............. > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) escribió: > > > > Oh sure! > > > > > > > > I am just interested in - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO > > > > > > > > If you test with those additionally on > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > > > > and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) > > > > > > > > @Maxim Solodovnik (mailto:solomax...@gmail.com) from my tests actually > > > > my Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very > > > > strange how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! > > > > I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in > > > > Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the > > > > API (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com > > > > (mailto:zurca...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > Hello Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > Could you please be a little more explicite? > > > > > > > > > > Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive > > > > > partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to > > > > > other OSX, and that is a little heavy. > > > > > > > > > > So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, > > > > > with what browser and what examples in concret? > > > > > > > > > > There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes > > > > > in the iMac, is also Yosemite). > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) escribió: > > > > > > Could you try also some of the official examples from: > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ > > > > > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > > > > > > or > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ > > > > > > > > > > > > You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop > > > > > > (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! > > > > > > It does playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using > > > > > > a headset, it will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com > > > > > > (mailto:zurca...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > > > > > > > Ok, here is my test in: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.11.6 - Safari 11.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When try recording appear a red message: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.12.6 - Safari 12.0.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar YES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When try recording appear a red message: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.13.6 - Safari 12.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar YES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.14.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # OSX 10.15.6 - Safari 13.1.2 - Cam yes - Mic green bar NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't record (play) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell > > > > > > > > me, > > > > > > > > but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like > > > > > > > > me, can understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > > > > > > > > ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Alvaro, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please re-read my message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============= > > > > > > > > > > Hello Safari owners :) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please visit > > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings > > > > > > > > > > and tell me is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please test this page with all Safari versions > > > > > > > > > > starting with 11? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:zurca...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green > > > > > > > > > > > bar > > > > > > > > > > > mic > > > > > > > > > > > In one hour will test other safari versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .................... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft > > > > > > > > > > > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it > > > > > > > > > > > > works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > in Safari browser (11+) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > > sure It should > > > > > > > > > > > > be added to OM UI .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages > > > > > > > > > > > > and maintain ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) <seba.wagner@gmai > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com (http://l.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > first time > > > > > > > > > > > > > usually means they consider the application not ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > and they > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently > > > > > > > > > > > > > only beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage > > > > > > > > > > > > > those users not > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting angry! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > login page for > > > > > > > > > > > > > example? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > <zurca...@gmail.com (mailto:zurca...@gmail.com)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, release as-is... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyhow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) <seba.wagne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com (mailto:r...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No but the generic test application at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enabled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however works fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@gm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ail.com (http://ail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "WebRTC" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 13? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) <seba.w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com (mailto:ag...@gmail.com)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio/video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ri_11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > video and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Media Capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > API, Resource > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cite_note-63> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be good to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a few more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > limitation or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solodovnik <solomax66 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com (mailto:6...@gmail.com)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea where ATM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any access to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet (maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) <se > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mailto:ba.wag...@gmail.com)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Solodovnik <soloma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com (mailto:x...@gmail.com)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to update it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My steps were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 20.04+Chromium latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> couple more hours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please let me know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com) < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> (mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> discussions: Safari on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iOS does not capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> audio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> fine. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > capturing audio does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> have: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> capture of audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> but we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > established that that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> cause) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> capture of audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some think some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code change on our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> webRTC samples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> discuss-webRTC : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> inside OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is rather complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would like to see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a simple minimal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> fine, I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> how to approach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> on discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC I would also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Maxim
