On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Pedro Sam wrote:
> Here's another analogy, I leave my legally owned and licensed firearm
> in plain view in the fore mentioned car.  Robbers then proceed to
> steal my big ass gun and rob a bank ...  well, you see where this is
> headed.

I can see where you are trying to FORCE it. But your pathetic attempt to
equate a common household appliance to a dangerous weapon is just that -
pathetic. Carry this to its logical, absurd extreme: If someone broke
into MY house, stole my COMPUTER, and then used it to unleash a virus onto
the internet, why the hell would I be liable for that criminal MISuse of
something that I owned and cared for as a simple TOOL in my home?

Normal gun handling requires that even at home we lock up the gun.
Do you lock up your toaster? Do you padlock your fridge or VCR?
When you BUY them, are you told there are restrictions and regulations
governing their use? Let's think about the VCR before we answer. There
actually ARE regulations about VCR's. Things you may not copy or create.

So hey, you leave your VCR on the front seat of the car, and someone
steals it and uses it to make pirated videos and sells them, are YOU
liable for it? Your whole reasoning process is flawed by the fact that
computers are not inherently dangerous until someone commits a criminal
act to make them so. The only thing you have approaching an 'argument' is
that telecommunications have made the 'theft' of my computer easy to do
and easy to do un-noticed. And this is at best an argument for educating
people on the potential mis-use of their appliances. We all learn not to
play with matches. But we don't get sued for the damage when someone
steals them and uses them to commit arson. Not even if they were sitting
in the front of an unlocked car.

I agree that people could *really* use some education on this subject.
I work helpdesk. I *do* that every day. But the idea of suing people for
not having been educated? Stupid. Why don't you sue the computer
manufacturers for failing to include proper *instructions* on the
necessity of installing additional software? Or better still, why not
sue the computer/software manufacturers for producing an unsafe product?
Now THERE is an argument for culpability.....

- Charles



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