Not that I don't like this discussion, but this really is getting way off topic for Spamassassin.
Can it be taken offlist now? --Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:30 PM > To: Greg Cirino - Cirelle Enterprises; Bart Schaefer; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamwriter > > > Greg, please don't think that you know everything... > > SBC DSL FAQ states: > > Question: > Can I run dedicated servers with DSL Internet access service? > > Answer: Answer last updated: 05-02-02 > Yes, as long as you have a static IP address. The best part of DSL > Internet access service is that the larger bandwidth enables > you to have an > always on connection to the Internet. This means that you can run mail > servers, web servers or FTP sites from your home or office. > > here is the URL for you.. http://ask.sbc.com/pcbdsl/FAQ_21_155.shtm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Cirino - Cirelle Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Bart Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamwriter > > > | Making a direct outbound connection on port 25 is not > "running an email > | server", any more than making a direct outbound connection > on port 80 is > | "running an HTTP server." > > Running any type of "Server" is a violation of every consumer > high speed > access connection TOS. > > Call it what you want, but if it serves, it's a Server > > No can do > > Unless I misunderstand what a server is, I think anything that > provides content, (web, ftp, email, telnet, ssh, etc...) is classified > as a server. > > Again, No can do > > This is not saying "you are not able to do so", that would be > rediculous, but undrestand, a consumer connection to the Internet > is just that... consumption, not delivering.... > > consumers receive, servers serve. > > cable subscribers, residential subscribers are consumers > Not Servers > > IMHO all consumer IP blocks should be uni directional and only > allowed input traffic. > > Unfortunately, the TC/IP protocol makes this difficult, but > not impossible > to control. > > Frankly, there is no email that needs to be delivered immediatly and > the only overloaded ISP email servers are those freebee email services > which usually get blown out by spam filters anyway. > > The Rule of Thumb: > > Just because you have cable or dsl does not mean you're an ISP or > gonna make a fortune on the internet. > > If you want into the business, build the plan, see the bank, > take the risk. > > Otherwise, you are no better than the spammer that is trying to make > a quick buck no a cable connection. > > I think that was about a half a bucks worth.... > > Best Regards > > Greg > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bart Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamwriter > > > | On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Greg Cirino - Cirelle Enterprises wrote: > | > | > 40 bucks a month does not make you an ISP. > | > > | > No Hosting Servers > | > No Email Servers > | > No FTP Servers > | > > | > Just consuming. > | > | Making a direct outbound connection on port 25 is not > "running an email > | server", any more than making a direct outbound connection > on port 80 is > | "running an HTTP server." > | > | I have no objection to an ISP blocking port 25 coming *in* > to my DSL. > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. > | Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management > System offering > | advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. > | Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html > | _______________________________________________ > | Spamassassin-talk mailing list > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. > Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering > advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. > Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html > _______________________________________________ > Spamassassin-talk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. 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