RE: Security Risk?

Yes, I've experimented. It doesn't take too much to get the daemon responding again (though I can't remember the exact details of how). Is there a way to make ssh mandatory? Fred --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton Univer

Re: Security Risk?

n this, or point me to an informative page or thread? Thanks. Fred --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL

Re: How to find server desktop size?

Thanks, everyone. Since I'm more familiar with solaris than Win, the xdpyinfo was helpful, though I'm sure all these replies will be helpful to many other VNC users. Fred --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Bui

Connect to local host doesn't need ssh?

Hello, Would it be correct to assume that connections to localhost:x (on a solaris box) does not need ssh encryption? I'm assuming it doesn't travel over the LAN and can't be spied on. Fred --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carl

How to find server desktop size?

Hello, Is there a way to determine what the -geometry specification was when vncserver was started (possibly many moons ago)? This information doesn't seem to be in the log file. Thanks. --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton Unive

DSL charges based on monthly traffic

such as exceed or vnc. Alot of the data isn't real files so much as graphical updates. Just wondering what more experienced/knowledgeable users think about the end effect on users. Fred --- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University,

Multiple users observed

I have two machines networked with each running Win2000 pro. I am on one machine and there are three users on the other at different times. I would like to be able to view the screen of the logged on user. Is this possible? If so how? I have looked at the FAQ and did not find anything that address

VNC's right-button problem

Check out http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/archives/2002-02/0305.html. The first post has lots of detail, but the followups only post what you need to know to fix the problem. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics

Server dies viewing 8-bit desktop using 24-bit desktop

Subject: Server dies viewing 8-bit desktop using 24-bit desktop Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:01:49 -0400 From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm still using TightVNC1.2.2 (had a bit of an ordeal trying

Re: Q For Constantin

But it's actually software, not hardware. If it wasn't almost 2am (and over 12 hours since last having a meal), I'd give it a shot.yes, you do hear whining hear, and well justified at that. Fred -- Fred M

Re: Q For Constantin

I must say, I'm extremely honoured, though of course it has nothing to do with me! =) =) -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario C

Re: ZoneAlarm Lock kicks in when using VNC

and isolates the viewer. That's why I found it odd that the keystrokes typed on the PC is not regarded by ZA as "local" when it is in fact local. Not sure if that changes you assessment. Fred -- Fred Ma Depart

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1503

ot sure if that changes you assessment. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [

ZoneAlarm Lock kicks in when using VNC

nsidered local, even though I am using the local keyboard and mouse to generate this input to vncviewer? This might actually be a moot question because I think ZA is kicking in even when I'm doing word processing; I'll kee

ZoneAlarm Lock kicks in when using VNC

Hello, I'm using ZoneAlarm with VNC. I've got the ZA lock set to kick in after 10 minutes of inactivity. However, it kicks in after 10 minutes even though I've been busily working away using VNC. Would anyone know why, and how to correct this behaviour?

Re: Running VNC on Solaris

this when I couldn't get vncviewer to connect. #!/bin/csh -f echo -nolisten local $* \ | sed -e 's+\(.*\)\(:[0-9]*\)\(.*\)+ \2 \1 \3+' \ | xargs vncserver Hope it works for you. Fred ------ Fred Ma Depar

Re: Where is Tightvnc 1.2.3; also, compile problems

roperly handled or not, and maybe even find the fix for #3. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [

Re: VNC Viewer under Solaris does not pass ctrl + mouse keys to host???

to the bottom. This gets interpretted by the twm process that is hosting the viewer. The twm process running for the desktop *inside* the viewer never gets to see the F4 key. That's the closest thing I can think of to the problem you descr

Re: VNC Viewer under Solaris does not pass ctrl + mouse keys to host???

Oops, forgot to mention: I'm using TightVNC. Too bad I can't cancel my original response. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Cana

Re: VNC Viewer under Solaris does not pass ctrl + mouse keys to host???

meaning for the windowing system of which vncviewer is a client; maybe the windowing system is intercepting them? Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa

Re: vnc performance AND mailing list format improvement

me conclusions. Oh, yeah, you may try an actual 56kbps modem also, and find that tight encoding is essential, and that it doesn't differ that much from tight encoding over ADSL. In fact, if the internet is busy enough or the access to your office is crowded enough, 56kbps may actually be bet

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1484

the access to your office is crowded enough, 56kbps may actually be better (still talking about tight encoding in this case). Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Dr

Re: vnc performance

e, I don't know, that might be a night time thing also. Note however that during the day, I use tightVNC's tight encoding for its compression, otherwise I'm not sure what would be do-able during the day aside from pure text sessions like telnet. Fred P.S. For best speed, use the

Re: vnc via ssh port forwarding

This might be a dumb question, but did you start up a server before trying to connect? The reason I ask is because the only time I ever got that message is when I didn't have a server running. Fred -- Fred Ma Departme

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1479

This might be a dumb question, but did you start up a server before trying to connect? The reason I ask is because the only time I ever got that message is when I didn't have a server running. Fred -- Fred Ma Departme

Re: Open SSH

. Also, I think tightVNC may have a cleaner way to run vnc through ssh, but I haven't yet taken the time to find out more. -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive

Can someone repeatedly try connecting to server?

th an account on the same system can easily query the system to find what VNC processes are running, as well as their corresponding display numbers AND process owners. That goes a long way towards being able to make repeated attemp

Re: Stajano's ssh & Man-in-Middle attacks

ntent. After being converted to the ZoneAlarm mentality, I'm seeing badness everywhere. Innocence is gone. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottaw

Re: Fonts Problems

ripts that run when I log in. I also guess that they might not be set if you log in via a method that doesn't use Xwindows e.g. if you telnet into the the unix box. I'm not sure if any of this applies to servers running on windows; I imagine it also uses font paths

Re: Stajano's ssh & Man-in-Middle attacks

Just to make it clear that I really don't know this area, every time I refer to a public key fingerprint below, I should have said RSA key fingerprint. (That's what the ssh program asks to confirm). Fred ----

Re: Stajano's ssh & Man-in-Middle attacks

imply because you're typing your various other passwords for the world to see. If not, then the risk would be determined the confidential nature of the work being done the over VNC connection. Fred "fred (Please remove 1st F from my email)" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using

Stajano's ssh & Man-in-Middle attacks

ts public key fingerprint over an insecure telnet session, considering that you never have to repeat the query and thus never run the risk again? Fred - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1463

ripts that run when I log in. I also guess that they might not be set if you log in via a method that doesn't use Xwindows e.g. if you telnet into the the unix box. I'm not sure if any of this applies to servers running on windows; I imagine it also uses font paths

Re: The vnc right-click problem

e the U.S. that they play. Go Canadians! Fred P.S. I guess we're a bit off topic here. ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S

Re: The vnc right-click problem

. Actually, I'm meeting with friends for a beer tonight, but they won't have a clue or any interest in the true cause for celebration (i.e. the above). Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Ma

Re: TightVNC 1.2.2, is it beneficial?

You see a huge difference when the internet is congested, or if the access to your company/campus is congested. I find that the bandwidth of DSL is rarely a bottleneck. -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton

Re: 56Kbps modem

width regardless of the direction. But, being a good little mailing list reader, I won't take up bandwidth on this mailing list to ask for stuff I can find one the web some day. Thank you anyway! Fred -- Fred Ma Dep

"56Kbps modem" (was "TightVNC 1.2.2, is it beneficial?")

Why don't they just call it a 33.2Kbps modem, if that is what it's actually doing? Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1445

Why don't they just call it a 33.2Kbps modem, if that is what it's actually doing? Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Re: TightVNC 1.2.2, is it beneficial?

n the colors are quantized in such big steps. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROT

Re: Why not an HTML digest of links only?

his shouldn't take much bandwidth, and can be easily ignored by those who hate html. It also avoids the need to maintain an html digest for each day at some central site, just so people can warp to it. Fred -- Fre

Why not an HTML digest of links only?

is simple enough to fire up a browser on the local host to access a particular message or thread, if the http address is in the digest of links. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Buildin

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1437

n outside product with a large (or larger) user base--again, as you suggest. And finally finally, I'm using the free version of ZA. Maybe we can hear from the paying customers to see if support is greater. Fred -- Fre

Re: Win 98/95 setup - slow access

e password. Otherwise, that initial screen will take a long time to load. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL

Deferred frame updates

th this. Could somebody clarify whether this is a real feature, and where I can find its description (especiallly how to disable it)? Thanks. Fred ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125

Re: setenv DISPLAY

Good luck. See if you can show your problem to a system administrator. They are normally very busy people, but they would know if there are any site-specific setup issues that might interfere with the VNC was meant to work. Fred -- --

Re: setenv DISPLAY

tput to the terminal, but I think xstartup is called in such a way that any output that is generated gets sent to ~/.vnc/tree1:13.log (for your example below). So browse through that file to find what the above "echo" command spits out. Not

The right mouse button problem

ccassion, it gets sent when I right click on stuff for netscape messenger (running on solaris, being accessed from WinME). Has a hack-around ever been hacked out? Right mouse clicks are ubiquitouswell, I guess everyone knows. Fred -

Re: DOS VNC

dos only got vnc viewer, don't have vnc server - Original Message - From: "Daniel Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "VNC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:54 AM Subject: DOS VNC > Hi all, > is there any programs available for DOS? just curious, if have, > think

Re: Keystrokes

Dave, For what it's worth, I'm using the same Inspiron, processor, and WinME. No such problem accessing Solaris8, but I'm using TightVNC latest release. http://www.tightvnc.com Fred -- Fred Ma Department

Re: right mouse click on unix vnc

uot;brick" that represents the "current window view" tends to send that brick careening forward several screens. Just a minor nuisance, but it's an awesome package. Especially compared with a commercial package. Fred -

Re: Solaris-2-Solaris problem

ven't run into any nasty side effects yet. If anyone more knowledgeable about it could comment or clarify, how about posting? Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colone

Re: Solaris-2-Solaris problem

ually very explicit from examining ~/.vnc/MachineName:3.log (replace 3 with whatever display number you used to start the server). Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colon

Re: solaris8 viewer wrapper Scripting puzzle

new shell. Otherwise, I just keep running from shell to shell. In this case, it's not that urgent. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ont

Re: VNC will not go to full scree

o, my firewall slowed things down unless I restart it after establishing the VNC link (ZoneAlarm). Good luck. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario C

solaris8 viewer wrapper Scripting puzzle

all of this is easily avoidable using "alias vncv vncviewer -owncmap -noshared". I'm posting this questions more to dispel whatever misunderstanding causes the above. Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of El

Re: VNC will not go to full scree

mode. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROT

VNC and viewing Solaris CDE Desktop ?

iform solid color desktop, as per the FAQ. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROT

Re: Screen Resolution ???

ng with the web browser java viewer, I have to experiment with the -geometry specifications until I get a desktop just big enough to avoid scroll bars, then put the java viewer in full screen via the MS browsers View->FullScreen option. Fred --

RE: Weird quirk in MSDOS batch wrapper for vncveiwer

Thanks, John. I'll keep your suggestion in mind for a later date, but at this time, I've had to drop that problem. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colone

Re: ssh RSA key fingerprint differs from ssh_host_key.pub SOLVED

t having to explicitly choose bandwidth efficient encoding (e.g. tight) for slow channels, since the weird ssh configuration causes the encoding to default to a scheme that is only good for wide bandwidth links. So in payment for using up so much bandwidth on this mailing list, hope this helps! F

Re: Weird quirk in MSDOS batch wrapper for vncveiwer

Thanks again, Alex. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Weird quirk in MSDOS batch wrapper for vncveiwer

do this kind of thing in unix sometimes, I thougt it would be straightforward in MS-DOS. I have abandoned the idea for now. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel

Re: Weird quirk in MSDOS batch wrapper for vncveiwer

ror-prone having punch in the same things again and again. And I am spoiled by unix scripting that I got lulled into taking a shot at it. But it never seemed to end. Now I must stop. But thanks, I appreciate the work you put into it and I will eventually have a second look at i

re: ssh RSA key fingerprint differs from ssh_host_key.pub

27;t suppose it would be wise to use the dc at Carleton University via VNC since connections to there are insecure until I get this ssh going? Neither would it be wise to "cat" the ssh_host_key.pub on MachineName for a peek for the same reason? OR, doesn't it matter since it is afte

Weird quirk in MSDOS batch wrapper for vncveiwer

in MSDOS scripting can suggest an explanation (and maybe a workaround), that'd be great. Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Dr

Problems local cutting, remote pasting SOLVED

, and sorry for the noise. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROT

ssh RSA key fingerprint differs from ssh_host_key.pub

is the same as before i.e. differs from the one shown to me by ssh-keygen . Of course, I respond with "no" to that. So it looks like I'm not doing something right, though the instructions (from both the above website as well as the ssh man page) seem very clear. Can anyone s

Problems local cutting, remote pasting

x27;m using TightVNC viewer 1.2.1 on WinME and server Xvnc version 3.3.3r2+tight1.2.2 on Solaris8. Thanks. Fred ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontari

rgb question ressurecxted

the options from there as well. In addition, I ensured that JPEG compression was off. Thanks for any suggestions. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa

Re: Pseudocolor Visual (ZoneAlarm issue)

Hello, I already found the answer the the attached posting (VNC web site came back up). The answer is that the "-cc 3" option specifies an 8-bit pseudocolor display, and it doesn't seem to be necessary to put the viewer in "8-bit pixels" mode. Thanks anyway. Fred

Pseudocolor Visual

ixels option in the PC viewer. Is this problem solved using the -cc option for Xvnc? If so, how should it be used? I would greatly appreciate if you could reply-all so that it goes to the mailing list as well as to mine and rmason's email addres

Re: VNC + ZoneAlarm (fwd)

by ZA in that case. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROT

Re: unix's netscape/java vncviewer has tight encoding?

ly something I'm doing that's causing it. Fred P.S. I've noticed that the MSIE java viewer tends to lock up an become unresponsive if focus is temporarily switched to another application. At first, it seemed that disconnecting and reconnecting solved it, but it often persists.

unix's netscape/java vncviewer has tight encoding?

there doesn't seem to be any tight encoding, compresslevel, nor any jpeg quality options. Is tight encoding built into the unix-based java viewer, or is the nontight viewer somehow getting invoked? I had nontight vnc compiled before compiling tightnc (from scratch, not as an upgrade). Fre

RE: BW degradation when using ZoneAlarm

utohide is annoying if you bump against the top), but it's worth the trouble sometimes just for the speed, depending on what one doing. -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 C

Re: Reverse connect: How to select 1 of many servers

Thanks, Constantin. I shall give it a try... Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: BW degradation when using ZoneAlarm

Actually, I wasn't relying on ZoneAlarm for secure communications, I was relying on it for protection against attacks on my computer. I'm not an expert, but it seems to be a separate issue....right? Fred ----

BW degradation when using ZoneAlarm

a? Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Re: Reverse connect: How to select 1 of many servers

hanks. Fred -- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:43:17 + From: Jonathan Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Reverse connect: How to select 1 of many servers >I'm running a number of vncservers on a host. >Is there a way to sp

Seeking docs to help trace vncserver execution

. Is here documentation describing the internal workings of the program so that I can try this? I did a "find" and came up with over 1000 C and include files, so it's difficult to figure out where to start looking. Thanks. Fred --

Reverse connect: How to select 1 of many servers

Hello, I'm running a number of vncservers on a host. Is there a way to specify which one I want for a reverse connection? Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building

vncserver: "~/.vnc: No such file or directory"

directory, but this message still persists. Is there anything special I have to do to make my installation executable by others? It would be such a waste if only I could use it Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Elect

VNCserver window size limit?

Hello, I'm can't seem to specify "vncviewer -geometry 1400x1040+0+0". There seems to be a maximum size that is smaller than this, about 900x750 (somewhere around that). Is this the case? Fred - To unsu

Re: tightVNC make error: line 496: Unexpected end of line seen

checked first (I only checked the mailing list). Thanks for pointing that out. Fred ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B

Re: tightVNC make error: line 496: Unexpected end of line seen

r the suggested modifications to vncviewer/Imakefile. Thanks for any further suggestions. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 5B6 [

Unable to reconnect to server after exit twm

nd the patch is not in my version, can anyone point to where the patch is? Thanks. Fred -- -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa, Ontario Canada

tightVNC make error: line 496: Unexpected end of line seen

ep to find all possible places where a variable can be given a default value (in that case, it was the "make" path), then finding that none of the changes "stick" ie. the Makefile itself somehow gets created without the desired change. Thanks for any suggestions! Fred

Re: How to list VNC server displays

Thanks, Wayne. It looks like "ps/grep" approach wins out. Maybe even creating an alias for it called vncQuery or something. Fred -- Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1306

Thanks, Michael & Mark, for the pgrep & netstat suggestions, as well as their behaviour on solaris. Fred ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel By Drive Ottawa,

How to list VNC server displays

Hello, Is there a way to check what vncserver displays I've started using "vncserver :N"? Can't seem to find any in the documentation. A search of the archive turns up unrelated issues for the first few p

Slow vncviewer on WinME

is to confirm that this degree of slowness is to be expected. ------ Fred Ma Department of Electronics Carleton University, Mackenzie Building 1125 Colonel

"Error creating local image of screen"

id not get this error. The VNCviewer will work fine in 16 bit desktop. VNCviewer will also work fine if I open it up in 16bit and then change it to 32 bit. But I cannot open the VNCviewer in 32 bit. Anyone have ideas what the cause may be, and maybe a solution? Th