problem with installation/use of vnc

2001-03-13 Thread Gerald Marewo
hi all. i have just installed vnc 3.3.3 'vnc-3.3.3r2_x86_linux_2.0.tgz' by just copying the files: Xvnc vncconnect vncpasswd vncserver vncviewer to /usr/local/bin which of course is in my path; 'echo $PATH' gives: /home/gerald/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Wayne Throop
: No one was asking for a SMTP, IRC, gopher, . . . server, only a : feature that allows the transfer of files. It is not very simple to : install a ftp daemon on 3,000 distributed computers world wide, deal : with the firewall and security issues. Speak for yourself on that : one, guy. Why g

RE: Separating WinVNC and the Java Appet

2001-03-13 Thread Dave Drager
I have successfully done this. Here is the HTML that I have for the web page: VNC desktop <-- change the width and height to your resolution <-- change this to the port you have VNC running on, usually 5900 You need to enable Java in your browser You also need to copy the following

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Bostedor
ahh, more useless sarcasm. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Stephens Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:34 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: FTP Server Why don't we ask that VNC be turned into a mainframe operating system so that

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Bostedor
No one was asking for a SMTP, IRC, gopher, . . . server, only a feature that allows the transfer of files. It is not very simple to install a ftp daemon on 3,000 distributed computers world wide, deal with the firewall and security issues. Speak for yourself on that one, guy. Why get sa

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Bostedor
Well maybe about speaking for them, but you're kind of right about my wording. I shouldn't have use the word compete, I should have used "complimentary". Although a helpful correction, I really don't think that was relevant to the point of the post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
"Bryan A. Pendleton" wrote: > > The whole discussion of the FTP server leads back to another thought I'd > had for a while, which came up during the discussion of including > encryption directly in the protocol that I started a few months ago (and > which I'll be bringing back up towards the end

Re: Separating WinVNC and the Java Appet

2001-03-13 Thread Harmen van der Wal
"Kevin M. Hilscher" wrote: > > I would like to separate the Java Applet HTML from the WinVNC server and > load it onto a web server. Then I would like to change some of the > applet default parameters, such as value="Yes"> So you are just separating the HTML, and not the applet... > > I've at

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Bryan A. Pendleton
The whole discussion of the FTP server leads back to another thought I'd had for a while, which came up during the discussion of including encryption directly in the protocol that I started a few months ago (and which I'll be bringing back up towards the end of the school term, when I have pro

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread John Stephens
Why don't we ask that VNC be turned into a mainframe operating system so that there is no requirement to install anything extra and have all the users on terminals. Or of course we could just ask that it is made better at doing what it already does well. Thank you for VNC -Original Message---

Plug-ins

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
Hi everyone, We've discussed VNC plugins here recently, and I seem to recall that at some rather distant point in the past it was rumoured that the AT&T developers were working on a plug-in architecture for VNC. Is that work still in progress? Or is it something that could usefully be attacked by

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Morris, Steve
> 1. From the macroeconomic point of view, there is little > demand for such a > package and we're only hearing the vocal few; > > 2. The few "end users (especially non UNIX users)" who are > in the know how > to set up such an environemnt are not sharing their > knowledge effectively

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
Steve Bostedor wrote: > > I just think that installing a separate FTP program on all of the computers > that I administer is a ridiculous idea. Why not let it be part of VNC with > an option to shut it off for those of you that don't want it. I don't see > the reason for all of the venomous res

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Michael Erdely
The purpose of VNC was never to provide file transfer capabilities. One of the nice things about VNC is the ability to fit both the server and the client (if you choose not to use the web browser) onto a single diskette if necessary. But, why stop at an FTP server? Heck, why not add SMTP, IRC,

RE: NumLock turned off on remote machine upon connection

2001-03-13 Thread BMurphy
Thanks for you reply Brian. The point you make is very valid, and also true, BUT, in our experience this does not work properly on our servers. We regularly have problems typing in passwords on our servers due to a reversed Caps Lock. Regarless of this, I have now compiled a modified version of

Separating WinVNC and the Java Appet

2001-03-13 Thread Kevin M. Hilscher
I would like to separate the Java Applet HTML from the WinVNC server and load it onto a web server. Then I would like to change some of the applet default parameters, such as I've attempted to do this but just get a web page with a gray applet box with no login prompt. Any suggestions? Kevi

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Bostedor
I just think that installing a separate FTP program on all of the computers that I administer is a ridiculous idea. Why not let it be part of VNC with an option to shut it off for those of you that don't want it. I don't see the reason for all of the venomous resistance to this if you can turn t

Re: GDI DLL Wrapper

2001-03-13 Thread Mac Reiter
At 11:38 AM 3/13/01 -0600, you wrote: >A gentleman just sent me source code to an application and a dll that hooks >GDI this way and logs all of the DDI calls to a file. He included all >source code to both the application and the DLL. Would you like the ZIPped >archive of code and executable?

Re: GDI DLL Wrapper

2001-03-13 Thread Thomas B. Lerman
So would I. Thomas - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:54 Subject: Re: GDI DLL Wrapper > I would love to have it. > > Tom > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Mac Reiter wrote: > > > A gentleman just sent me source code to an appl

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread David Rothman
re: your bottom line... > To put it like this, if you can get your users to embrace VNC, and they know > enough about computers to use it, they sure as hell know enough to use an > ftp program, and seriously I've seen FTP servers that are a lot less > complicated to configure than VNC (basically

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Scott C. Best
Steve: Heya. Regarding your last note: > Imagine if someone were to make a windows package which included VNC, > a SSH client and an FTP client, along with a common configuration > procedure. I think this would be quite popular and adequately address > Steve Bostedor's and many other pos

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Gustafsson, Bjorn
Okay, I might be a bit out of line, but I still don't (really) see the point of it. I understand the need for being able to transfer files from one place to another, be it from home to work or whatever but picture this scenario: Your sysadmin enables a user to remotely connect on an officially un

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
>I use VNC for a variety of purposes, and I very often find it necessary to >bring back a file. Sometimes because we're using VNC for support >(trouble-shooting) purposes and we need to bring back diagnostic >information. Sometimes we generate printed output and we want to bring the >spoolfile b

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread tkaczma
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Morris, Steve wrote: > An integrated VNC/SSH/FTP would be a powerful and useful combination to solve a >single need. I agree, and packaging VNC with other clients and servers will solve that need adequately. > It might not be cost effective for the VNC team to respond to >

Re: GDI DLL Wrapper

2001-03-13 Thread tkaczma
I would love to have it. Tom On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Mac Reiter wrote: > A gentleman just sent me source code to an application and a dll that hooks > GDI this way and logs all of the DDI calls to a file. He included all > source code to both the application and the DLL. Would you like the ZIPpe

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:19:27PM +, Jonathan Morton wrote: > Yes, and the intermediate tunnel would probably be SSH in this example. > This does *not* imply, however, that the tech support worker in question is > able to make that SSH tunnel point where he wants it to. Also, have you > eve

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Morris, Steve
Gustafsson, Bjorn [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] rather annoyingly writes: > Sure, someone packaging VNC with > FTP/HTTP/SMTP/POP3/IRC/NNTP/Napster/Real/Telnet servers > might be a good idea Now you're being unfair. There is a real need being discussed here. Making fun of people with that need does not

RE: Question on Vnc

2001-03-13 Thread Billy Rosewood
If he went with the install rpm from the redhat install the applets are in /usr/share/vnc/classes simply vi the vncserver and fined the Classes line ( / and then Classes - then type I to edit the line to /usr/share/vnc/classes and the esc, :wq to write and quit - of course make sure all instances

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
>> Consider the following scenario: >> >> A tech support worker, behind a corporate firewall, accesses a user's PC >> which is behind another corporate firewall. These firewalls are pretty >> tight, and the only way the tech support worker has access to the user's >> machine is through a single,

Re: GDI DLL Wrapper

2001-03-13 Thread Mac Reiter
A gentleman just sent me source code to an application and a dll that hooks GDI this way and logs all of the DDI calls to a file. He included all source code to both the application and the DLL. Would you like the ZIPped archive of code and executable? Mac _ /"\

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Gustafsson, Bjorn
Actually, I tried BO2k before I tried VNC, and no, VNC is much easier to use. BO2k gives you better control over some things (namely running processes), but VNC is better when it comes to desktop control :) /Bjorn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] S

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Billy Rosewood
Considering that nc is open source as well and does file transfer over tcp/ip and is not port limited (which btw, an ftp 'server' built in can be set to work on any port which there seems to be some weird confusion on) and can also work with ssh. Browsing through all this FTP thread ive noticed a

Re: Question on Vnc

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
> "wtonetwork.com" wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > I learn from Vnc news that you have encounter the problem of > the following case. > When I make connection to VNC server via browser applet ( > http://x.x.x.x:5801 ) > Error occured and here is the log file > httpd: get '' 168.70.119.31 > httpd: defa

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread tkaczma
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Lee Allen wrote: > 3) the client system does not have an FTP client installed (remember, the > vncviewer is often installed by placing a single executable on the client; > installing an FTP client is not nearly as simple). It is simpler. It is usually installed on all the W

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread tkaczma
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, James ''Wez'' Weatherall wrote: > > Consider the following scenario: > > > > A tech support worker, behind a corporate firewall, accesses a user's PC > > which is behind another corporate firewall. These firewalls are pretty > > tight, and the only way the tech support worke

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
Koronka Akos wrote: > > It's ok to take focus on core devel, but adding a plug-in handling will make > easier to combine several very-very good features, what is now in different > packages. > I think so many people will make plugins if this handling is available. Like > far manager, or winamp pl

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread tkaczma
Steve, On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Morris, Steve wrote: > Imagine if someone were to make a windows package which included VNC, a SSH > client and an FTP client, along with a common configuration procedure. I > think this would be quite popular and adequately address Steve Bostedor's > and many other p

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph A. Knapka
Jonathan Morton wrote: > > >A built-in FTP server would be great, when using internet connection, not > >lan. > > I'm thinking that maybe FTP per se isn't a good idea, mainly because it's a > surprisingly big and complex protocol to implement. Ever noticed that > *good* FTP clients and servers

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Lee Allen
I can readily understand the needs of the VNC developers to focus on the 'core functionality', especially for an application ported to so many different platforms. But I think it would be a mistake to dismiss this as an issue of user ignorance or laziness. Point #1: I use VNC for a variety of pu

Re: VNC Viewer behind a firewall/http proxy

2001-03-13 Thread Harmen van der Wal
"Scott C. Best" wrote: > > Raji: > Hello! As Harmen wrote, I'm a big fan of: > > > http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html <...> > As Harmen suggested, for > something noisy like VNC, follow the README example for > choosing a good buffer-size. If your IT guys at work ever > comp

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall
> Consider the following scenario: > > A tech support worker, behind a corporate firewall, accesses a user's PC > which is behind another corporate firewall. These firewalls are pretty > tight, and the only way the tech support worker has access to the user's > machine is through a single, dedica

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Koronka Akos
It's ok to take focus on core devel, but adding a plug-in handling will make easier to combine several very-very good features, what is now in different packages. I think so many people will make plugins if this handling is available. Like far manager, or winamp plugins. So what about plugins? R

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
>> (Seriously, a VNC-server-provided FTP server is a really bad idea, >> IMHO.) > >I agree, but I'll confess that I prefer the Unix toolbox approach; create a >bunch of simple tools that each do one thing well, and chain them together to >make more complicated stuff. The applications and protocol

Re: but exactly which part of ftp is possibly unsafe?

2001-03-13 Thread David Rothman
yeah, but that doesn't answer the question. there are hundreds of ftp servers out there. presumably some are *better* than others. again, the encryption issue can be somewhat handled by pgp. it's the other issue which is of real concern to me. what i don't know is is it an endemic problem for

FW: Scroll Bars

2001-03-13 Thread Kobel, Karl
Hi, I ran into a situation where I was viewing a double wide monitor on a single wide screen (on Windows 2000). The scroll bars would not allow me to grow the window height to get rid of the vertical scroll bar. I always had to scroll up or down that last 1/4". I modified the viewer source to co

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Gustafsson, Bjorn
Well, non *IX users could solve it in other ways. When it comes to Windows (which is used a lot), you have the "administrative shares", probably named like that for a reason, which gives an adminstrative person the ability to upload files to a user who's having problems. Sure, someone packaging VN

Re: but exactly which part of ftp is possibly unsafe?

2001-03-13 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 09:13:54AM -0500, David Rothman wrote: > Posed simply, many claim that ftp is 'unsafe', but where is > the risk? /me drops jaw on floor Go search bugtraq (or _any_ security advisory list). Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] -

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Morris, Steve
I guess we all know the issues here. What we don't have is a good answer. The VNC team has decided to bound the development process by keeping to the core functionality, correctly reasoning that things like file transfer, secure connection and local printing of remote files are all solved elsewher

RE: but exactly which part of ftp is possibly unsafe?

2001-03-13 Thread Sharma, Shashi
I think the unsafe part of the ftp is that it uses two different ports and by default one is outbound and the other is inbound. Port 21 is used for sending ftp commands and the other port(20 by default) is used for actual data. All client I have seen changes the data port to something else and th

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Rodney Wines
> (Seriously, a VNC-server-provided FTP server is a really bad idea, > IMHO.) I agree, but I'll confess that I prefer the Unix toolbox approach; create a bunch of simple tools that each do one thing well, and chain them together to make more complicated stuff. The applications and protocols for

but exactly which part of ftp is possibly unsafe?

2001-03-13 Thread David Rothman
with all this current ftp discussion and my thread on ftp from a few weeks ago, i will bring up this question again: Posed simply, many claim that ftp is 'unsafe', but where is the risk? from what i understand, ftp doesn't have any built in encryption, so to the extent that a file can be interce

Re: NumLock turned off on remote machine upon connection

2001-03-13 Thread W. Brian Blevins
Ben, > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:17:10 +1100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: NumLock turned off on remote machine upon connection > > Hi all, > > We are using WinVNC 3.3.3R2 in a Windows NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a > environment. Whenever we connect to a machine, the remote machine's NumLock >

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Bostedor
Behold the genius. ;) I only hope that this doesn't fall upon deaf ears. Maybe if the people that really need this functionality ask with a unanimous and overbearing PLEASE! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Tuesday, M

Re: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 01:29:38PM +, Jonathan Morton wrote: > >A built-in FTP server would be great, when using internet connection, not > >lan. > > I'm thinking that maybe FTP per se isn't a good idea, mainly because it's a > surprisingly big and complex protocol to implement. Ever noticed

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
>A built-in FTP server would be great, when using internet connection, not >lan. I'm thinking that maybe FTP per se isn't a good idea, mainly because it's a surprisingly big and complex protocol to implement. Ever noticed that *good* FTP clients and servers are hard to come by, especially for "d

RE: can no longer use vnc on some servers

2001-03-13 Thread Janice Adams
I haven't tried uninstalling yet. I was hoping I would get some clarity on the issue first. I cannot connect to these same machines anymore from anywhere. I have to use pca, many of my clients have this so I will have to reinstall. -Original Message- From: Andrew Palm [mailto:[EMAIL PR

vnc server

2001-03-13 Thread Idit Neuman
Hi, Is there somewhere implementation of vnc server based on nano-x or qt embedded? Thanks Idit - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/

Re: VNC Win 2000 Server as service fails when logon screen is present?

2001-03-13 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall
> > VNC has two password types. > > > > 1. The Default Password which is controlled from: (Global) > > "Start Menu -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Show Default Settings" > > > > 2. The Current User Password which is controlled from: (Per User) > > "Start Menu -> VNC -> Show User Settings" > >

RE: VNC Win 2000 Server as service fails when logon screen is present?

2001-03-13 Thread Richard Harris
> VNC has two password types. > > 1. The Default Password which is controlled from: (Global) > "Start Menu -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Show Default Settings" > > 2. The Current User Password which is controlled from: (Per User) > "Start Menu -> VNC -> Show User Settings" Michael, Once

Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1055

2001-03-13 Thread Richard Harris
> From: Liza Vorster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Putting vnc in logon script > I would just like to find out if there is a way that we can put vnc in > our logon script to install on our client pc's? And then also a way to > make the password a standard password automatically. You could do it

Re: VNC Viewer behind a firewall/http proxy

2001-03-13 Thread mfpchelp
Hi Scott! Will vnc client and server work faster if both ends have high speed dsl. How about if only the vnc client has dsl. Thanks Mario On Mon, 12 March 2001, "Scott C. Best" wrote: > > Raji: > Hello! As Harmen wrote, I'm a big fan of: > > > http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel

Re: vnc client and server with dsl

2001-03-13 Thread mfpchelp
Hi Scott! Will vnc client and server work faster if both ends have high speed dsl. How about if only the vnc client has dsl. Thanks Mario On Mon, 12 March 2001, "Scott C. Best" wrote: > > Raji: > Hello! As Harmen wrote, I'm a big fan of: > > > http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel

compiling on SGI Irix 6.5

2001-03-13 Thread Thorsten Elis
Hi list, I'm trying for a some days to compile Xvnc v3.3.3r2. I got the latest version(2.95.2) of gcc from freeware.sgi.com, but when i use the make-command like described on the contibuted-site i get 2 messages: gcc: unrecognized option -n32 gcc: language ansi not recognized I think that the co

RE: FTP Server

2001-03-13 Thread Koronka Akos
A built-in FTP server would be great, when using internet connection, not lan. >Just a nitwit question. But why is a ftp server wanted in VNC? Aren't >st VNC accessible machine ona network that handles file transfer >already?I am not seeing a good reason to add the extra code. --