Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

True. Some tailors have pre-made garments, which they alter as needed to fit the customer, in addition to or instead of making garments from scratch. I would describe the facility that includes pre-made garments as shop=tailor, and the facility that makes all garments from raw cloth for each cus

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 15:13 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > Also just looking at the German term for travel agent for exaple it's > Reisebüro so it has office in the name. what a coincidence ;-) In English there isn't any "office" in travel agency though. What I remember from discussions about

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 15:13 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > The question is which key would have been better than office? I'm fine with the key office for an office, I don't like the idea to restrict the usage of this key to offices that sell something (like the current definition suggests). Or m

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 15:13 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > Except that several values have moved away from shop like shop=tailer => > craft=tailor. I mean we have have more than 1000 tags with shop=craft > Go on page 9,10,... http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values and you > will find man

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Think about the tags I have mentioned before, which use "shop" for services offered and which don't sell goods. From my point of view, the introduction of the office key hasn't changed anything here, office=hairdresser doesn't make sense for a place where you get your hair cut, offering service

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > room=store (or maybe "shop" to be coherent with our nomenclature) > office=estate_agent I suggested the established building:part key because a shop is not always one room, indeed it is rarely one room (storage, toilet for staff, etc) cheer

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the problem I see is not in the shop definition but within the office tag. The definition goes like that: "A place predominantly selling services." http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office But this is only a subset of offices and is contradicted by the values on the same page (eg ngo, assoc

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W dniu 18.05.2015 11:32, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): yes, it is a shop, but will not get the shop=* tag in OSM because it is not a shop function, just a shop location / structure. you could maybe use building:part=shop for it We need a generic way of separating function from the form, in c

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > The point is more that shop was mainly used for services, because it was the > closest key that existed. I also cleaned up craft= a bit and many of those > could also be found as shop= and while some certainly have a overlap others > reall

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how would we do this? What does it change? Btw., "lack of alternatives" really isn't a good argument in a project that allows "any tags you like". still those tagged in the amenity namespace don't miraculously change meaning just because someone has introduced an alternative tag in the meantime

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2015-05-18 11:41 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > But we also have to consider that this was the description, before office= > existed and how it was used due to lack of alternatives. > > how would we do this? What does it change? Btw., "lack of alternatives" really isn't a good argument in a project t

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On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 09:22 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > There was a row of three shops on my local hgh street: Butcher, baker > and soft furnishings. > > Five years ago, the baker went bust, as was replaced by an estate > agent. > > Two years ago, the estate agent, being very successful, moved t

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A shop is not only selling goods, but according to the wiki also services. E.g. shop=hairdresser, car_repair, beauty (you can't carry out beauty in a bag) etc. But we also have to consider that this was the description, before office= existed and how it was used due to lack of alternatives. I

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> Am 18.05.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > I know a private school that had a classroom in a former carpet store. Still > with large windows towards the street. Would that be also be a shop then? yes, it is a shop, but will not get the shop=* tag in OSM because it is not a shop fun

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I know a private school that had a classroom in a former carpet store. Still with large windows towards the street. Would that be also be a shop then? Perhaps is it because I speak American rather than British, but to me a shop is a place where the item(s) I buy can be carried out, if not in

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2015-05-18 10:22 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > Did the middle premises stop being a shop, and then start being a shop > again? Aside from the question whether this particular type of business is an office or a shop, why not? There are a lots of people living in former shops in Berlin, of course th

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On 17 May 2015 at 17:23, Tod Fitch wrote: > Perhaps is it because I speak American rather than British, but to me a shop > is a place where the item(s) I buy can be carried out, if not in a shopping > bag then on a truck (lorry). Assuming that “estate agent” translates to “real > estate agent”

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On 5/17/2015 1:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. you seem to assume that these are about the same thing

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The one near me is deffo a shop - sells coffee and sandwiches! -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family,

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OK, but in this case exactly the same name tag isn't confusing? If we consider two different tags valid, it should be "estate agent" and "estate agency" or "estate broker". Or at least clear definition on wiki. 2015-05-17 19:26 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > > Am 17.05.2015 um 17:52 schrie

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> Am 17.05.2015 um 17:52 schrieb Paweł Marynowski : > > it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent > - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that > office=estate_agent is much more popular. you seem to assume that these are about

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> On May 17, 2015, at 9:01 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: > > On 17/05/2015 16:52, Paweł Marynowski wrote: >> Hi all, >> it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent >> - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that >> office=estate_agent is much

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On 17/05/2015 16:52, Paweł Marynowski wrote: Hi all, it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. Surely both are potentially valid? Some estate

[Tagging] Estate agent

Hi all, it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. My suggestion is to set status of shop=estate_agent as 'abandoned' and office=estate_agent as 'de fa